Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

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I also came across this post on Politico.com, saying that this is the most interesting Harry & Meghan will ever be. And the comparison to artists like Madonna and David Bowie etc. who need to constantly reinvent themselves to stay interesting.

And I agree in the future, we can expect a dozen films (probably not made by the couple) about them and this period. It will be interesting to see what they will do when this happens.

https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...-harry-oprah-interview-media-publicity-474488
 
What amazes me is that Harry had the nerve to mention the racist comment about Archie's skin. He thought nothing of dressing as Hitler, the king of racists, for a Halloween party.
Yes, Harry was 20, but he was old enough to know better! Seems like a double standard to me.
I'll bet this topic was off limits for the Oprah interview.
 
What amazes me is that Harry had the nerve to mention the racist comment about Archie's skin. He thought nothing of dressing as Hitler, the king of racists, for a Halloween party.
Yes, Harry was 20, but he was old enough to know better! Seems like a double standard to me.
I'll bet this topic was off limits for the Oprah interview.


When we know better we do better. I'll keep this brief but when it comes to hate etc we cannot push forward if we do not acknowledge the past AND ALLOW for people to learn and change. One mistake cannot paint a person for life unless they do nothing to fix the mistake, learn from it, move on and do better. We have to constantly be asking ourselves "Did I do the best I could today for the people around me?" Every day. And when you realize you did make mistakes today, you did judge etc THEN you make a point to learn and move forward. Progress.
 
If a British person went to the US, and started to be greatly critical of the Stars and Stripes, and publicly kept offering to "fix" the US Constitution, the reaction of most Americans would probably be:

"Hey, wait a minute: the Starts and Stripes are an honored symbol, and the US Constitution (the oldest continuously functioning written constitution in the world) is as a result of careful preparation and amendment over many years."

Similarly with a system with a monarchy such as Great Britain's, like it or not: if one willingly marries into it, there are certain expectations which come with it. The monarch is rather like an animate flag; unlike US elected representatives, the monarch cannot easily answer back at criticism, but must rely on people's respect for the system to work; rather like a perpetually flying flag.
 

What amazes me is that Harry had the nerve to mention the racist comment about Archie's skin. He thought nothing of dressing as Hitler, the king of racists, for a Halloween party.
Yes, Harry was 20, but he was old enough to know better! Seems like a double standard to me.
I'll bet this topic was off limits for the Oprah interview.
He is asking to be reverted to being Mr Harry Mountbatten-Windsor.
 
...but even to serve one two year term in the House of Representatives one needs to show some self discipline in conforming one's public pronouncements to some kind of strategic order and constructive purpose.
Oh but they don’t. It’s a sad affair.
 
Yes, despite them wanting a private life, all it has done is put them (back) on the front of newspapers in many countries and the world.

If they want privacy, they shouldn’t have called Oprah to air their dirty laundry. It’s barely a step above the Jerry Springer Show.

The Netflix show about the Queen is already revisiting a lot of old scandals. The Queen doesn’t need this drama with her husband in the hospital.
 
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Thomas Markle has his say on Meghan, Harry, alleged racism in the Royal Family and the couple's Oprah interview

In a world exclusive interview Thomas Markle spoke to today's Good Morning Britain of his reaction following Meghan and Harry's Oprah interview. This is what he said.

On Meghan:

'This is actually the first time I've heard her speak in four years, about four years. The last time we spoke, we didn't speak we actually texted each other, I was laying in a hospital bed after having a heart attack. I had to tell them that I couldn't come to the wedding.

'It wasn't quite saying goodbye. Harry had said to me at that point, 'If you had listened to me, this wouldn't have happened to you.' Me laying in a hospital bed after I'd had a procedure and getting a stent put here and a stent put here, felt that that was kind of snotty, so I hung up on him. And that's the last conversation we ever had.'

On not meeting Harry or Archie

On having not met Harry or his grandson he said: 'I'm very disappointed about it. I've apologised about this thing, what happened at least 100 times or so. Bottom line is I've never heard back from Meghan or Harry in any way shape or form. When they say that I'm taking advantage of the press, basically what I do, because I haven't heard from them, is I'll do a story for the press. If I don't hear from them in 30 days, then I'll do another story for the press. I've yet to hear from them. I would love to hear from them. They're not talking to me. When they decide to talk to me, I'll stop talking to the press.'

On doing a deal with a paparazzi photographer

'OK, well my daughter, my oldest daughter, was contacted by a man [...] who was a photographer, who said, 'If you can convince your dad, we can make him look good.' For an entire year, outside my house somebody was taking photographs of me. I couldn't go anywhere or do anything without being photographed buying something, coming out of a store. And god forbid I'm buying beer for the guys at the guard gate… and everybody knows I don't drink. But I bought beers for the guys at my guard gate. They [the press] were making me an alcoholic, calling me names, talking about the way I dressed. So I yes, I went for this deal with this man who was going to make me look better. Maybe I got sucked into it, but I believed him and I thought it was going to work. It didn't work. When it was exposed, I said, 'What's happening?' Bottom line is he was supposed to be a great distance from me shooting on a long lens. He actually walked into most of the scenes. I said, 'What's going on?' he said, 'Don't worry I've taken care of this many times, I'll make you look great.' Well, they waited until three days before the marriage and released the photos. I called him and said, 'What's going on, how did this happen, what do I do?' He said, 'Just deny it.' It didn't go away, hasn't gone away yet. I denied it [to Meghan] yes.
'I wish I hadn't done the whole thing. But here's the other side of this coin. It's like, no one took any time to protect any member of our family. We were attacked by the press every day. My oldest daughter, my son, myself, my grandchildren, all of us were attacked by the press. No one looked after us.'

He added: 'Then I saw a headline that said they recommended, Harry and Meghan, that someone come and help me, someone come and take care of me. Meghan and Harry denied that and said don't do it. So I was left out to dry. And in spite of all of that I apologised, I apologise today again, but here again, I also said we all make mistakes.'

On the publication of a letter she sent to him

'I'm the one who released a part of the letter. That was because a magazine was doing a story about me, Meghan's friends were telling a story about me that was mostly lies. After reading these things, these lies, I said I have to retaliate. By retaliating, I released part of the letter. I didn't release the whole letter. Had I done that you would have seen something that was horrible. I had held that letter for six months and I was going to destroy it, it was so bad. A lot of things that were said to me [...] The people in the magazine said she reached out to me with love and wanted to get back together, that wasn't the letter at all, that wasn't what it was intended to do.'

On Meghan cutting him off

'I've been pushed around and knocked down for one thing I did, for one big mistake I made. I've apologised for it as many times as I possibly can. However, I love my daughter very much and if I'd known she was having psychological problems, I would have been there for her. Biggest problem here is she's pretty much ghosted all of her family. On her mother's side and my side. So, she really had no one to reach out to. She would have had us if she'd kept us.
'The bottom line is, she didn't lose me. She made a statement saying she lost me. She didn't lose me. I would have always been there for her. I'm there for her now if she wants me. But it's been a long time. This thing about the press and so forth, I've done maybe six articles for the press. As everyone knows, every other newspaper takes those articles and suddenly it's 100 articles. But I've never done that many. I do it only every 30 days'.

On Meghan telling Oprah she was suicidal

Speaking of Meghan's admission she contemplated suicide, he said: 'It really did upset me, like I said, it would have been easy for her to reach out to me, any of the rest of her family, who she claims she doesn't know. But the other thing is that I would think that she could turn to her husband.'

When noted she did, he said: 'Obviously not supported her that well.'

On racism claims about the Royal Family

'I have great respect for the Royals. I don't think the British Royal family are racist at all. I don't think the British are racist. I think Los Angeles is racist, California is racist, but I don't think the Brits are. The thing about what colour will the baby be, or how dark will the baby be, I'm guessing and hoping it was just a dumb question from somebody. It could just be that simple. It could be somebody asked a stupid question, rather than being a total racist.'

'I also feel that she let me down as well. I was in a hospital bed the last time we talked and I never heard from them again. They didn't care if I died. I never heard from them again. I had a procedure where they put a stent in here and a stent in here, and that's when we talked. And they have not talked to me since. When my father was in hospital me and my three brothers showed up the very next day. That's what families do.

This whole thing about colour and how dark the baby is is bull****. I married a very beautiful black woman and had a beautiful child. And if she had turned out dark it wouldn't have been a problem. If she'd turned out anything in between it wouldn't have been a problem, a beautiful baby.'

He added: 'A racist comment should be investigated. But all I'm saying is it could have been just a stupid question from someone. You know, someone who doesn't understand a black person marries a white person, what do you get, you know? You never know but you get a baby. That's what you get, you get a baby.
Maybe we're getting a little too political.'

On timing of the interview

'I totally agree they went way over the top with these stories with Oprah and should have waited considering the Queen's age and Philip's age, they certainly should have waited or tried to wait.'

On what he'd say to the couple

'I'd like to say again, I'm sorry for what I've done. This was two years ago. This was a long time ago and I've certainly tried to make up for it. The stories in the paper, each time are because I haven't heard from you. They know where I live, now we're closer together, they're probably 70 miles from me now. So, I'm available any time that we can get together. I'd love to get together. I'd certainly like to see my grandson. I've never stopped loving my daughter. I don't always agree with the things my children do, but I never stop loving my children. I certainly love Meghan. She can be angry with me and tell Oprah how angry she is, but I'm still her dad. If you ever look at Tig [website], there was a thing where she spoke about me, she made a statement saying there should be more guys like my dad. So there must be something good left here somewhere'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9341417/Meghans-father-Thomas-Markle-speak-GMB-morning.html
 
If they want privacy, they shouldn’t have called Oprah to air their dirty laundry. It’s barely a step above the Jerry Springer Show.

The Netflix show about the Queen is already revisiting a lot of old scandals. The Queen doesn’t need this drama with her husband in the hospital.

Totally agree

According to some reports, The Queen, Prince Charles and Prince William have had emergency meetings about what to / whether to respond.
Prince Charles has been on an official visit to a covid vaccination centre today and remained silent even when asked about the interview (presumably from the press, not those working at the centre!)
 
I know historically they have not replied to press stories. But much like after Diana died, I think the Queen herself (with her husband in the hospital at age 99) will likely have to make a statement. Otherwise the press will hound everyone mercilessly.
 
While it is hard to check some of the statements made in the interview, the Daily Mail gave it a try : https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9338421/Royal-revelations-test.html
For the unofficial marriage 3 days before, I also presume it was just a vow exchange for the two of them, which I can understand they wanted. That the archbisshop was there...

As the Daily Mail is a dreadful website, I have copy/pasted the text so you do not have to be bothered by the tons of rehashed pictures and all the ads :D

Meghan never researched the Royal Family prior to joining
Meghan said: 'I didn't do any research about what that would mean,' she said. 'I never looked up my husband online.'
Fact check: Unlikely
Meghan's claim that she never researched Harry, nor the Royal Family, before entering into the relationship is at odds with claims made in the couple's biography.
Although the Sussexes maintain they did not contribute to Finding Freedom, it was written by friendly journalists Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand, who say the book was impeccably well-sourced by those closest to the couple.
Prior to their first date at Dean Street Townhouse in 2016, the authors write: 'Naturally both participants in this blind date did their homework with a thorough Google search. Harry, who scoped out Meghan on social media, was interested.'
A friend is also claimed to have impressed on Meghan the attention she would command for dating Harry, saying: 'This could be crazy...you will be the most wanted woman'.
The duchess said she 'didn't do any research' into the monarchy, 'didn't fully understand what the job was', and did not grow up 'knowing much about the Royal Family'.
Friends of the duchess have painted a different picture, revealing that she was fascinated by the royals in her youth. Ninaki Priddy, who was Meghan's maid of honour at her first wedding to Trevor Engelson, said her friend was 'always fascinated by the Royal Family. She wants to be Princess Diana 2.0'.
She added: 'She had one of Princess Diana's books [Diana: Her True Story] on her bookshelf, and even when she was with Trevor she told me she wanted to go and stay in London for at least a month. I know she used to love The Princess Diaries films.'
The mother of Suzy Ardakani, one of the duchess's high school friends, has described how she taped Diana's wedding and would watch it with her daughter and Meghan years later.

Harry and Meghan were actually secretly wed three days before the Windsor ceremony by the Archbishop of Canterbury
Meghan said: 'You know, three days before our wedding, we got married. No one knows that... We called the Archbishop and we just said, 'Look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world but we want our union between us.'
Fact check: Unlikely
Church of England marriages require at least two witnesses and the public must also have unrestricted access to the building during any marriage ceremony to allow for valid objections against the marriage.
At the time the couple were living in the grounds of Kensington Palace, and their residence is off limits to the public.
A couple who are already lawfully married cannot choose to re-marry each other, unless there is some doubt as to the validity of the earlier marriage.
Reverend David Green, Vicar of St Mary's, West Malling and the Rector of St Michael's, Offham, said it was impossible to have had two weddings, adding: 'I think the Archbishop needs to clarify what did or did not happen three days before.'
This means that one of the two ceremonies was more likely just an exchange of vows rather than a legally recognised wedding.

'I was silenced'
Meghan said she was 'silenced' by the institution. 'Everyone in my world was given very clear directive, from the moment the world knew Harry and I were dating, to say 'No comment'.
Fact check: Contested
On the day they announced their engagement, Meghan and Harry gave a lengthy interview to the BBC's Mishal Husain, although the duchess reportedly complained afterwards that the journalist had not been 'warm enough'.
On their tour of South Africa, they granted interviews to ITN's Tom Bradby, when Meghan memorably told him: 'Not many people have asked if I'm OK.'
Royal insiders have stressed that it was very much the case that Harry and Meghan themselves 'called the shots' when it came to publicity, deciding which charities to support, which engagements to go on, and which media to grant interviews to.

Archie has a birthright to be a prince
Meghan said: 'Idea of the first member of colour in this family, not being titled in the same way that other grandchildren would be... It's not their right to take it away'
Fact check: False
Archie did not have a birthright to be a prince, but could potentially become one when Charles accedes to the throne.
That William and Kate's children have the HRH title and are styled as prince and princesses - and Archie is not - stems from a ruling more than 100 years ago.
In 1917, King George V issued a written order that only royal offspring who are in the direct line of succession could be made a prince and receive HRH titles.
The Letters Patent read: '...the grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of these our realms.'
Under the rules, only Prince William and the Duchess of Cambridge's eldest son Prince George - as a great-grandson of the monarch down the direct line of succession to the throne - was originally entitled to be a prince.
The Queen stepped in ahead of George's birth in 2013 to issue a Letters Patent to ensure all George's siblings - as the children of future monarch William - would have fitting titles, meaning they were extended to Charles and Louis.
Under the George V rules, Archie would be entitled to be an HRH or a prince when his grandfather Charles, the Prince of Wales, accedes to the throne.

Archie wouldn't get 24/7 security because he wasn't a prince
Meghan said: 'In those months when I was pregnant, all around this same time, so we (had) the conversation of he won't be given security, he's not going to be given a title.'
Fact check: False
Being a prince or princess does not automatically mean royals have police protection.
Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie's security is no longer paid for by the taxpayer.
Harry and Meghan no longer receive British police protection, and are understood to be paying for private security.

Help for mental anguish
Meghan says she begged in vain for the Palace to help her mental state
Feeling that she 'just didn't want to be alive any more' in January 2019, Meghan said she 'went to the institution, and I said that I needed to go somewhere to get help', but was refused because it 'wouldn't be good for the institution'.
The duchess claimed: 'I went to human resources, and I said, 'I just really – I need help',' but HR could not do anything because she was not a paid member of staff. She longed to check herself into a hospital or similar clinic but 'you can't just do that... I couldn't, you know, call an Uber to the Palace'.
Fact check: Difficult to verify
Meghan was not asked by Miss Winfrey why she went to HR rather than simply ask her GP to make a referral or seek advice from a mental health clinician herself, in the same way she might have done for any other ailment.
One insider pointed out that HR exists for Palace employees while the royals themselves have a private office to help arrange everything from booking a holiday to fixing a medical appointment.
Harry, meanwhile, said he was ashamed of admitting to his family that Meghan needed help, and so he did not talk to them.
The duke, who is passionate about the mental health campaign he launched, called Heads Together, and has himself sought therapy in the past, said that with his wife he 'had no idea what to do'.

Kate made Meghan cry before her wedding to Harry
Responding to claims that she reduced Kate to tears, Meghan said: 'No, no. The reverse happened'.
Fact check: Contested
Reports of a pre-wedding clash between the duchesses first emerged in November 2018, when sources claimed Meghan had been left displeased with a 'stressful' dress fitting for the flower girls.
Accounts differed as to the source of the row. Some said it was a disagreement on whether the bridesmaids should wear tights - Meghan reportedly believed they should not.
Other reports said it stemmed from Princess Charlotte's dress not fitting, meaning another had to be scheduled.
A source said at the time: 'Kate had only just given birth to her third child, Prince Louis, and was feeling quite emotional.'
But during the Oprah interview Meghan flatly denied the reports and claimed it was Kate that left her upset.

Couple witnessed racism inside the monarchy
Meghan said: [There were] concerns and conversations about how dark his [Archie's] skin might be when he's born'
Fact check: Almost impossible to verify
Harry and Meghan said they will never reveal the person who made these comments.
However Oprah revealed that Harry confirmed it was not the Queen nor Prince Philip.
While currently not commenting on the contents interview, Buckingham Palace are almost certain to push back on suggestions of institutional racism.
They could launch an investigation - as they have done with claims of bullying.

Harry was financially cut off from the royals
Harry said: 'My family literally cut me off financially, and I had to afford security for us'
Fact check: They wanted to be financially independent
When Harry and Meghan announced their intention to step back from being senior royals, they said they wanted to be 'financially independent'.
Before cutting ties, 95 per cent of their money came from Prince Charles's income from the Duchy of Cornwall, and 5 per cent from the taxpayer-funded Sovereign Grant.
Princes William and Harry received most of a £13million fortune left by their mother Princess Diana. Harry is also thought to have had millions left to him by the Queen mother.

Meghan has not seen Samantha Markle in almost 20 years
Meghan said: 'The last time I saw her must have been at least 18, 19 years.'
Fact check: False
During the interview Meghan distanced herself from her half-sister Samantha, who she said she hardly knows and she grew up 'an only child'.
A photograph from 2008 - 13 years ago - shows Meghan with Samantha at her graduation.
Samantha last night slammed the royal's interview with Oprah Winfrey, saying 'the truth was totally ignored and omitted' while providing photos and documents to disprove each of the Duchess of Sussex's claims about her.
The pregnant Duchess of Sussex told Oprah, 67, that Samantha 'doesn't know' her, claiming she was raised as 'an only child' - but her half-sister has now insisted that couldn't be further from the truth.
'I don't know how she can say I don't know her and she was an only child. We've got photographs over a lifespan of us together. So how can she not know me?' she told Inside Edition, while sharing images of the two women together at different stages throughout their lives - most recently in 2008, just 13 years ago.
The Duchess also claimed that Samantha only changed her surname back to Markle after Meghan struck up a romance with Harry - but Samantha insisted that this claim was wholly inaccurate, and shared further evidence to refute it.

'Lost' father who staged photos
Meghan said the Press 'created' news about Meghan's father 'to create drama'
Fact check: False
Meghan Markle's estranged father Thomas today denied his daughter's claims he had 'betrayed' her before branding his son-in-law 'snotty' and declaring: 'We all make mistakes - but I've never played naked pool or dressed like Hitler like Harry did'.
Mr Markle says that he's apologised '100 times' for doing a deal with a paparazzi photographer before the royal wedding in 2018 and urged the couple to see him now they only live '70 miles away' from his Mexico home in Los Angeles.
He also denied the Royal Family - or Britain - is racist, calling Meghan and Harry's claims 'bulls**t' and saying if it is true a royal asked about how 'dark' Archie's skin would be, it was probably just a 'dumb question'.
Mr Markle spoke to Good Morning Britain in the UK after watching the Oprah interview with his daughter and her husband.
In it Meghan said she cannot fathom hurting her son Archie in the way her own father 'betrayed' her, admitting she 'found it hard to reconcile' with Thomas after he insisted that he had not been speaking to the media. She said: 'I look at Archie, I think about this child, and I genuinely can't imagine doing anything to intentionally cause pain to my child'.
Mr Markle said that while he did let her down, she had 'let me down too' by cutting him off after heart surgery almost three years ago. He said: 'The bottom line is she didn't lose me, she made a statement saying she lost me, she didn't lose me, I would've always been there for her, I'm there for her now if she wants me'. He added: 'We all make mistakes - but I've never played naked pool or dressed like Hitler like Harry did'.
Mr Markle was referencing Harry's trip to Las Vegas where he stripped off in a hotel to play pool and once wearing a Nazi uniform to a party when he was 20.
Describing his last phone call with Harry he said: 'Harry had said to me if you had listened to me, this wouldn't have happened to you. Me, laying in a hospital bed after a having procedure, I had a stint put here and put here and that was kind of snotty so I hung up on him.'
But Mr Markle also used the rare interview to urge his daughter to reach out to him. He said: 'I'd like to say again. I'm sorry for what I've done. This was two years ago. But I've tried to make it up to her. I'm now only 70 miles away. I've never stopped loving her. I don't agree with all the things that my children they do. But I will always love them. And I certainly love Meghan'.


Meghan had to turn over her passport, keys and driving licence to royal aides
Meghan said: 'When I joined that family, that was the last time I saw my passport, my driving licence, my keys - all of that gets turned over.'
Fact check: Difficult to verify
Senior royals are often pictured driving themselves and it is believed there have never been prior claims of a royal having keys and passports held.
Harry and Meghan received police protection, meaning their travel was meticulously planned by officers.

Meghan's press team didn't defend her when 'things weren't true'
Oprah asked Meghan about stories that she made Kate cry, saying: 'So, all the time the stories were out that you had made Kate cry, you knew all along, and people around you knew that that wasn't true.' Meghan replied: 'Everyone in the institution knew it wasn't true.' And Oprah then said: 'So, why didn't somebody just say that?' Meghan said: 'That's a good question.'
Fact check: Contested
Making a wider point, Mail on Sunday royal correspondent Emily Andrews has said that Meghan's press team did in fact defend untrue stories, saying this was 'just not right'.
Ms Andrews said that she interacted with a press team who defended the Sussexes 'again and again and again, told me things were wrong - so didn't publish - and indeed tried to stop me when true.'

Palace lied to protect other members of the Royal Family
Meghan said: 'I came to understand that not only was I not being protected but that they were willing to lie to protect other members of the family, but they weren't willing to tell the truth to protect me and my husband.'
Fact check: Contested
There was clearly frustration felt by the couple, with some justification, towards the Palace PR machine, which was sometimes reluctant to 'fight every little fire', as one source put it.
But the Palace did robustly stand ground on many other stories that the couple insisted were not true, resulting in the media not running them.
The Palace pursued at least one national newspaper all the way to press regulator IPSO over a story about their Frogmore home, and won a decisive victory for Harry and Meghan.
The duchess complained that she was 'not protected', but Palace sources have hit back at the idea the duchess was left to fend for herself, suggesting it was her own aides who needed protection from her bullying ways – something she strenuously denies.

Meghan was banned from going out for lunch with her friends
Meghan: 'I remember so often people within The Firm would say, 'Well, you can't do this because it'll look like that. You can't'... so, even, 'Can I go and have lunch with my friends?' 'No, no, no. You're oversaturated. You're everywhere. It would be best for you to not go out to lunch with your friends.' I go, 'Well, I haven't left the house in months.'
Fact check: Contested
Meghan appears to be talking about a four-year period, and it is likely the situation varied.
She was spotted enjoying outings on numerous occasions, including a pub lunch with Harry, going for facials near their Kensington Palace home and shopping trips.
Every British newspaper declined to buy photographs of these trips. No member of staff would dare tell Meghan where she could go.

Newspaper held story about Thomas Markle until Sunday before Meghan's wedding

Meghan: 'If we were going to use the word betrayal, it's because when I asked him, when we were told by the comms team, this is a story that was going to be coming out, which, by the way, the tabloids had apparently known for a month or so and decided to hold until the Sunday before our wedding because they wanted to create drama, which is also a really key point in all this.'
Fact check: False
Meghan claimed 'the tabloids had apparently known for a month' that Thomas Markle had staged paparazzi photos before the wedding but 'decided to hold till the Sunday before our wedding... to create drama,' adding: 'They did not report the news, they created the news.' She suggested she had 'lost' her father forever as a result.
In truth, far from sitting on the paparazzi story, the Mail on Sunday, which broke it, published within 24 hours of getting the proof.

That's very interesting! They change their tune according to what suits them at the time.
 
I thought I read somewhere that there was something mentioned in the interview about the Disney character Ariel? If anyone caught that, what was the connection?
 
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Thomas Markle has his say on Meghan, Harry, alleged racism in the Royal Family and the couple's Oprah interview

In a world exclusive interview Thomas Markle spoke to today's Good Morning Britain of his reaction following Meghan and Harry's Oprah interview. This is what he said.

Speaking of not waiting to jump on the interview gravy train

Markle Dad is a bit of a toxic creep I dont blame them for keeping distance... with his track record, I wouldn't speak to him either or be excited to have him in my family's life. ... sometimes you need to let toxic folks go.

Just becuase someone donated a sperm (or an egg) does not make then a parent, or worthy of lifetime respect.
 
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Re sister, Samantha

'I don't know how she can say I don't know her and she was an only child. We've got photographs over a lifespan of us together. So how can she not know me?' she told Inside Edition, while sharing images of the two women together at different stages throughout their lives - most recently in 2008, just 13 years ago.

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When Oprah had asked Meghan about Samantha's tell-all book, The Diary of Princess Pushy's Sister, the Duchess retorted: 'I think it would be very hard to tell all when you don't know me.'

The expectant mom added that she had grown up 'an only child' and claimed she hadn't seen her half-sister in nearly two decades.

However, Samantha provided photos that show them together throughout the years, including one of them at her college graduation in 2008.

The Duchess also claimed that Samantha only changed her surname back to Markle after Meghan struck up a romance with Harry - suggesting that her half-sister was trying to capitalize on the public interest in her name.

'She changed her last name back to Markle... only when I started dating Harry. So I think that says enough,' she said.

But Samantha insisted that this claim was wholly inaccurate, and shared further evidence to refute it.

'I was a Markle before she was,' she said. 'I though that was kind of weird that she would say I only changed my name back when she met Harry. Markle has always been my name.'

Samantha then showed Inside Edition her petition to change her name that was dated back to December 1997 and her college diploma, which says Samantha M. Markle.

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They also lived together as a family with Thomas’s older kids when Meghan was young.

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Thomas Markle has his say on Meghan, Harry, alleged racism in the Royal Family and the couple's Oprah interview

In a world exclusive interview Thomas Markle spoke to today's Good Morning Britain of his reaction following Meghan and Harry's Oprah interview. This is what he said.

On Meghan:

'This is actually the first time I've heard her speak in four years, about four years. The last time we spoke, we didn't speak we actually texted each other, I was laying in a hospital bed after having a heart attack. I had to tell them that I couldn't come to the wedding.

'It wasn't quite saying goodbye. Harry had said to me at that point, 'If you had listened to me, this wouldn't have happened to you.' Me laying in a hospital bed after I'd had a procedure and getting a stent put here and a stent put here, felt that that was kind of snotty, so I hung up on him. And that's the last conversation we ever had.'

On not meeting Harry or Archie

On having not met Harry or his grandson he said: 'I'm very disappointed about it. I've apologised about this thing, what happened at least 100 times or so. Bottom line is I've never heard back from Meghan or Harry in any way shape or form. When they say that I'm taking advantage of the press, basically what I do, because I haven't heard from them, is I'll do a story for the press. If I don't hear from them in 30 days, then I'll do another story for the press. I've yet to hear from them. I would love to hear from them. They're not talking to me. When they decide to talk to me, I'll stop talking to the press.'

On doing a deal with a paparazzi photographer

'OK, well my daughter, my oldest daughter, was contacted by a man [...] who was a photographer, who said, 'If you can convince your dad, we can make him look good.' For an entire year, outside my house somebody was taking photographs of me. I couldn't go anywhere or do anything without being photographed buying something, coming out of a store. And god forbid I'm buying beer for the guys at the guard gate… and everybody knows I don't drink. But I bought beers for the guys at my guard gate. They [the press] were making me an alcoholic, calling me names, talking about the way I dressed. So I yes, I went for this deal with this man who was going to make me look better. Maybe I got sucked into it, but I believed him and I thought it was going to work. It didn't work. When it was exposed, I said, 'What's happening?' Bottom line is he was supposed to be a great distance from me shooting on a long lens. He actually walked into most of the scenes. I said, 'What's going on?' he said, 'Don't worry I've taken care of this many times, I'll make you look great.' Well, they waited until three days before the marriage and released the photos. I called him and said, 'What's going on, how did this happen, what do I do?' He said, 'Just deny it.' It didn't go away, hasn't gone away yet. I denied it [to Meghan] yes.
'I wish I hadn't done the whole thing. But here's the other side of this coin. It's like, no one took any time to protect any member of our family. We were attacked by the press every day. My oldest daughter, my son, myself, my grandchildren, all of us were attacked by the press. No one looked after us.'

He added: 'Then I saw a headline that said they recommended, Harry and Meghan, that someone come and help me, someone come and take care of me. Meghan and Harry denied that and said don't do it. So I was left out to dry. And in spite of all of that I apologised, I apologise today again, but here again, I also said we all make mistakes.'

On the publication of a letter she sent to him

'I'm the one who released a part of the letter. That was because a magazine was doing a story about me, Meghan's friends were telling a story about me that was mostly lies. After reading these things, these lies, I said I have to retaliate. By retaliating, I released part of the letter. I didn't release the whole letter. Had I done that you would have seen something that was horrible. I had held that letter for six months and I was going to destroy it, it was so bad. A lot of things that were said to me [...] The people in the magazine said she reached out to me with love and wanted to get back together, that wasn't the letter at all, that wasn't what it was intended to do.'

On Meghan cutting him off

'I've been pushed around and knocked down for one thing I did, for one big mistake I made. I've apologised for it as many times as I possibly can. However, I love my daughter very much and if I'd known she was having psychological problems, I would have been there for her. Biggest problem here is she's pretty much ghosted all of her family. On her mother's side and my side. So, she really had no one to reach out to. She would have had us if she'd kept us.
'The bottom line is, she didn't lose me. She made a statement saying she lost me. She didn't lose me. I would have always been there for her. I'm there for her now if she wants me. But it's been a long time. This thing about the press and so forth, I've done maybe six articles for the press. As everyone knows, every other newspaper takes those articles and suddenly it's 100 articles. But I've never done that many. I do it only every 30 days'.

On Meghan telling Oprah she was suicidal

Speaking of Meghan's admission she contemplated suicide, he said: 'It really did upset me, like I said, it would have been easy for her to reach out to me, any of the rest of her family, who she claims she doesn't know. But the other thing is that I would think that she could turn to her husband.'

When noted she did, he said: 'Obviously not supported her that well.'

On racism claims about the Royal Family

'I have great respect for the Royals. I don't think the British Royal family are racist at all. I don't think the British are racist. I think Los Angeles is racist, California is racist, but I don't think the Brits are. The thing about what colour will the baby be, or how dark will the baby be, I'm guessing and hoping it was just a dumb question from somebody. It could just be that simple. It could be somebody asked a stupid question, rather than being a total racist.'

'I also feel that she let me down as well. I was in a hospital bed the last time we talked and I never heard from them again. They didn't care if I died. I never heard from them again. I had a procedure where they put a stent in here and a stent in here, and that's when we talked. And they have not talked to me since. When my father was in hospital me and my three brothers showed up the very next day. That's what families do.

This whole thing about colour and how dark the baby is is bull****. I married a very beautiful black woman and had a beautiful child. And if she had turned out dark it wouldn't have been a problem. If she'd turned out anything in between it wouldn't have been a problem, a beautiful baby.'

He added: 'A racist comment should be investigated. But all I'm saying is it could have been just a stupid question from someone. You know, someone who doesn't understand a black person marries a white person, what do you get, you know? You never know but you get a baby. That's what you get, you get a baby.
Maybe we're getting a little too political.'

On timing of the interview

'I totally agree they went way over the top with these stories with Oprah and should have waited considering the Queen's age and Philip's age, they certainly should have waited or tried to wait.'

On what he'd say to the couple

'I'd like to say again, I'm sorry for what I've done. This was two years ago. This was a long time ago and I've certainly tried to make up for it. The stories in the paper, each time are because I haven't heard from you. They know where I live, now we're closer together, they're probably 70 miles from me now. So, I'm available any time that we can get together. I'd love to get together. I'd certainly like to see my grandson. I've never stopped loving my daughter. I don't always agree with the things my children do, but I never stop loving my children. I certainly love Meghan. She can be angry with me and tell Oprah how angry she is, but I'm still her dad. If you ever look at Tig [website], there was a thing where she spoke about me, she made a statement saying there should be more guys like my dad. So there must be something good left here somewhere'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9341417/Meghans-father-Thomas-Markle-speak-GMB-morning.html
And Meghan cut her dad off because...?
 
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