Is Disney going broke

[BrianL]

I agree, just don't blame the journalist, they are reading off a teleprompter, blame the guys writing them up

And opinion does have a place in journalism, but it should be clearly dilineated. Newspapers used to have sections for "Op/Ed" peices that were separate from hard news. It was also a good sign when they have a variety of opinions printed in them as opposed to pushing only one stance, even when that one stance is their own.

 

[Aluminum Falcon]

And opinion does have a place in journalism, but it should be clearly dilineated. Newspapers used to have sections for "Op/Ed" peices that was separate from hard news. It was also a good sign when they have a variety of opinions printed in them as opposed to pushing only one stance, even when that one stance is their own.

i completely agree. I'm too young for this, but if i have it correctly i believe there was a fairness doctrine that make news agencies argue both sides of an issue. That changed in the late 80's, and its been downhill from there haha

 

[OppR2nist]

i completely agree. I'm too young for this, but if i have it correctly i believe there was a fairness doctrine that make news agencies argue both sides of an issue. That changed in the late 80's, and its been downhill from there haha

The problem with the fairness doctrine was that it gave equal time to both sides, regardless of the issue. So, if the issue at hand was something like say, did the USA land on the moon, they would give equal time to both the deniers and those who believe in reality. It also only showed two sides of an issue, when most issues are not so polarized.

 

[Aluminum Falcon]

The problem with the fairness doctrine was that it gave equal time to both sides, regardless of the issue. So, if the issue at hand was something like say, did the USA land on the moon, they would give equal time to both the deniers and those who believe in reality. It also only showed two sides of an issue, when most issues are not so polarized.

I agree that it must have been limiting, but once it was gone is when polarization really started to boil over in the US, and when you're only getting one side of any argument, most people become entrenched on "their side". There are definitely pluses and minuses to both

 

[OppR2nist]

I agree that it must have been limiting, but once it was gone is when polarization really started to boil over in the US, and when you're only getting one side of any argument, most people become entrenched on "their side". There are definitely pluses and minuses to both

It's hard not to polarize when you're only using one pole.

 

[TheDailyMoo]

The joke in the 80s and into the 90s would be the National Enquirer and those other rags they used to sell at the supermarket checkout lines. Well...in 2022...I can honestly say most news outlets are closer to the National Enquirer than not. It's sad how hard one has to search for the truth these days...whatever the "truth" is.

 

[OppR2nist]

The joke in the 80s and into the 90s would be the National Enquirer and those other rags they used to sell at the supermarket checkout lines. Well...in 2022...I can honestly say most news outlets are closer to the National Enquirer than not. It's sad how hard one has to search for the truth these days...whatever the "truth" is.

Look at this issue. Disney stock price dips a bit, and suddenly people think it's time to declare bankruptcy. Meanwhile, there's a very good reason why Disney stock has dipped if you actually bother to read anything.

 

[StageTek]

I agree, just don't blame the journalist, they are reading off a teleprompter, blame the guys writing them up

Most are not just reading what someone else wrote. They often write what is on the teleprompter and if they don't they read over the copy before it is sent to the prompter.

 

[Aluminum Falcon]

Most are not just reading what someone else wrote. They often write what is on the teleprompter and if they don't they read over the copy before it is sent to the prompter.

Valid, i guess what i'm driving at, is that there is a very small, limited group driving the messaging to the entire country, and the journalists are just doing the job they're told to do based around the message they are told to present

 

[TheDailyMoo]

Look at this issue. Disney stock price dips a bit, and suddenly people think it's time to declare bankruptcy. Meanwhile, there's a very good reason why Disney stock has dipped if you actually bother to read anything.

I was being very general in what I was saying though. You can apply it to anything though and either side of an issue. Anyone that thinks their side is 100% right or they know the absolute truth of anything actually doesn't have a clue. Those that question everything and don't blindly follow are the one's that get closer but even they don't always have a clue.

 

[DCLMP]

Just the facts.....as soon as the story begins to expand and tell the read what a fire is and how this may have started, it stops being news and is now opinion.

Too many journalist dont give their audience enough credit for being smart enough to decide for themselves, so they nudge them in a certain direction.

Most people dont want to think for themselves. The media knows how easy is it to persuade the masses.

 

[DCLMP]

I agree that it must have been limiting, but once it was gone is when polarization really started to boil over in the US, and when you're only getting one side of any argument, most people become entrenched on "their side". There are definitely pluses and minuses to both

There's nothing wrong with being entrenched on certain ideas, but you should be able to a civil discourse. The media does a fabulous job of getting people riled up over certain issues.

 

[Aluminum Falcon]

There's nothing wrong with being entrenched on certain ideas, but you should be able to a civil discourse. The media does a fabulous job of getting people riled up over certain issues.

To clarify, my point was that people only hear one side of an argument and get entrenched in it. If you hear from every side, and then become entrenched after gathering as much information as possible, that’s very different

 

[TsWade2]

Yes, you believe that "right wing" journalists (like Breitbart or RedState) are bad people who have hidden agendas, but you believe "left wing" journalists like HuffPost or Slate are good people who have no agenda.

How many times did Politifact rule "If you like your plan you can keep your plan" a true statement? I believe it was 5 times. But that's just based on my memory. You can look it up if you like. But if you're a liberal you probably think Politifact is completely unbiased (even though they are terribly biased). I know they're biased because....

EVERYONE IS BIASED!

See, I'm a Republican and my entire family (parents, aunts and uncles, cousins) are Democrats. So I'm one of the 'few' in America that can actually have respect for "the other side". Democrats aren't evil, Republicans aren't evil. We're just people who have different priorities or fundamental beliefs. Geez it's not all life and death. If Bush won it was the end of Democracy, if Obama won he'd turn is into a socialist hellhole, if Trump won he'd cancel the 2020 election. I've heard this crap for 20 years. You are all a bunch of sheep falling for the same stories over and over and over. The Republicans will win in November and YOUR LIFE WON'T CHANGE ONE BIT. But the guys on capital hill will keep getting rich and the Mega corporations will still own us. And the politicians will look at us and laugh at us.

But not your side, I'm sure your politicians really care about you... Yeah right. What's the difference between a "coup" and a "mostly peaceful protest?" It's whether you agree with the rioters' politics.

That is the end of the days lesson.

And on topic, No Disney is not "going broke". No, the Florida bill taking away their district or whatever won't really impact them. Disney owns everything. They are your TV, your movies, your theme park, your cruise ship, your action figures, your princess dolls. They are everywhere and they will here be forever.

So who cares the stock is performing poorly? So is Facebook, which is down from like 400 to 160, or Netflix from 600 to like 190. This market is a beating. But eventually things will recover and maybe in 2023 Disney will be the best DOW performer. Who cares?

I don't want to talk about politics, but there's one thing I know that Disney is not the only company that their stock performing poorly. Nickelodeon, Netflix, and even PBS Kids is tanking too. Also, Disney won't be broke. As soon as the shareholders to get the bottom this mess, then Disney will eventually recover.

 

[TsWade2]

pay attention...Disney is not going broke. The stock market is in a deep correction due to reasons that shall not be typed.

Disney stock will recover when new leadership is installed in government and at Disney corporate.

I hope so. They need to get back on being family friendly company. Disney will survive. This too shall pass.

 

[Aluminum Falcon]

Did anyone hear that Florida is likely to reverse course on Reedy Creek?

 

[New Mouse]

Disney isn't going broke. I'd buy them before they did!

But they are hovering awfully close to where a buyout or a sale of the parks would make sense.

 

[Aluminum Falcon]

Disney isn't going broke. I'd buy them before they did!

But they are hovering awfully close to where a buyout or a sale of the parks would make sense.

there's only a handful of companies who could make such a large acquisition, and i personally don't see any of them angling to purchase an entertainment company, as most have their own already. I can't see Disney signing off on ever selling the parks on their own, they make too much money for the company, it would be an absurd business decision

 

[bbeagle]

But they are hovering awfully close to where a buyout or a sale of the parks would make sense.

Absolutely not! When most people think of Disney, it's the PARKS they think of first. The Parks MAKE Disney.

It'd be like CocaCola selling off their soda pop operations to someone else.

 

[jdrasin]

Absolutely not! When most people think of Disney, it's the PARKS they think of first. The Parks MAKE Disney.

It'd be like CocaCola selling off their soda pop operations to someone else.

Not that I disagree with the bigger point, but coke I believe has outsourced almost all their operations. It’s largely a brand and marketing company now.

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