Is Dining Plan still a good deal?

Party of 6.

And if to get "value" from DDP you always order the most expensive thing, you're also driving up your tip, as you kind of allude to. I'm hoping your question about automatic gratuity isn't a hope to leave a lot less.

If you order something you might otherwise not to get value, you're still raising your OOP by the tip.
 
Party of 6.

And if to get "value" from DDP you always order the most expensive thing, you're also driving up your tip, as you kind of allude to. I'm hoping your question about automatic gratuity isn't a hope to leave a lot less.

If you order something you might otherwise not to get value, you're still raising your OOP by the tip.
I think people discount how much doing that increases their tips. Maybe not for 1 meal but over the course of a trip, with the whole family, you can easily "eat" up any savings you'd have from buying the dining plan.
Plus, what fun is it to order something you don't want just because it's more value? Not to mention, appetizers. Just last trip I wanted (and ordered) the Ahi Tuna Nachos at Yak and Yeti. This is not an option had we been on the dining plan. My next choice would be the Kobe Burger. Far from the most expensive item on the menu. So we "saved" money by ordering what we want vs. forcing ourselves to change our order based on getting more value from our dining plan credit.
 
Well, there are some of us who don't worry about saving money on it.

To be even more annoying, not only do I find the dining plan "convenient" as I explained in a previous post, saving money isn't even a factor in us choosing the dining plan! :p
 
Well, there are some of us who don't worry about saving money on it.

To be even more annoying, not only do I find the dining plan "convenient" as I explained in a previous post, saving money isn't even a factor in us choosing the dining plan! :p

I think there are a number of people who buy the plan for just that reason, which is why it's impossible to answer is it worth it? What's worth it for one person isn't for another. I think it's worth it to pay extra and stay in an Epcot deluxe resort just because it's easier to get to Epcot and HS that way, they are the two parks we spend the most time in. I don't think it's worth it to pay for a deluxe monorail resort since the darn thing breaks down often and if it is running you don't have another option to get to Epcot. Other's think just the opposite that it's worth paying extra to have that monorail. It's all subjective.
 

I think there are a number of people who buy the plan for just that reason, which is why it's impossible to answer is it worth it? What's worth it for one person isn't for another. I think it's worth it to pay extra and stay in an Epcot deluxe resort just because it's easier to get to Epcot and HS that way, they are the two parks we spend the most time in. I don't think it's worth it to pay for a deluxe monorail resort since the darn thing breaks down often and if it is running you don't have another option to get to Epcot. Other's think just the opposite that it's worth paying extra to have that monorail. It's all subjective.

Absolutely. Which is why posts telling people it's a waste across the board make no sense. :)
 
If H&V is no better than it was the last couple of times we ate there, Disney should pay guests $60 to eat there.
We ate there for the first time in August. It was one of the best buffets we've eaten at. We were pleasantly surprised.
 
Well, there are some of us who don't worry about saving money on it.

To be even more annoying, not only do I find the dining plan "convenient" as I explained in a previous post, saving money isn't even a factor in us choosing the dining plan! :p

That's fine. Awesome. We could buy the dining plan without worrying if it saved us money either, but I find it inconvenient and very overpriced unless it's steeply discounted or free. I'm not a penny pincher, by nature, and I absolutely DO pay for convenience, but even taking that into consideration, the dining plan is too inconvenient and expensive in my opinion.

To maximize the value, you have to get dessert. We aren't dessert eaters. That means we are either taking food we don't want because we paid for it which I don't like or we're skipping dessert and leaving money on the table. With a family of four Disney adults, that's around $60-80/day depending on where we eat.
 
I know that most posting here have very strong opinions against the dining plan, but it really does depend on your situation. I am taking my two sons (ages 6 and 12 at the time of our trip) for a split stay next March. Our first four nights we will do the regular dining plan, and the second four nights we will do the deluxe plan. We go to Disney once a year, and typically do not spend more than half of each day in the parks. They like dinner shows, character meals, and we have family that is local joining us for two days toward the end of the trip. Taking the time to calculate the plans for us, we will save about $600 on the plan. About $150 on the first half, and much more on the second using the deluxe plan and sharing credits. We do not maximize every credit, I often skip desert, and we will probably have snacks left at the end of the trip. But for us, we consistently save by using the plan.

I agree the dining plan is not for everyone, but it makes sense to look and your individual situation and do the math.
 
That's fine. Awesome. We could buy the dining plan without worrying if it saved us money either, but I find it inconvenient and very overpriced unless it's steeply discounted or free. I'm not a penny pincher, by nature, and I absolutely DO pay for convenience, but even taking that into consideration, the dining plan is too inconvenient and expensive in my opinion.

To maximize the value, you have to get dessert. We aren't dessert eaters. That means we are either taking food we don't want because we paid for it which I don't like or we're skipping dessert and leaving money on the table. With a family of four Disney adults, that's around $60-80/day depending on where we eat.

You aren't reading my post in the way it was meant in the context of this entire thread/my previous replies. It was a reply to other posts stating the only reason people buy the plan is to save money. Not a brag that we didn't need to save money. :) Believe me, I save!::yes::

My goodness! :p What a topic. I don't care who buys/doesn't buy the dining plan and for what reason, and no one else should either! But some of these posts seem like thinly veiled insults meant for those of us who choose to buy the plan (for whatever reason) and I'm being silly by engaging, which isn't like me.

Eat freely everyone!!! :rotfl:
 
1) No.
6) DDP is not a good deal for guests.
NOTE: DDP is a huge money maker for Disney. Some people I know say they buy it for the "convenience". If they want THAT kind of convenience, I offer to walk around behind them and pay for their meals with my own credit card and charge them the price of a DDP plan. Although retired, I could then live in the lap of true luxury. Even disBoards analysis of DDP shows it to be a looser for guests.

What a terrible answer. Maybe: DDP is not a good deal for me... but if answering for someone else w/o understanding what they want to eat, that's awful advice.

You aren't reading my post in the way it was meant in the context of this entire thread/my previous replies. It was a reply to other posts stating the only reason people buy the plan is to save money. Not a brag that we didn't need to save money. :) Believe me, I save!::yes::

My goodness! :p What a topic. I don't care who buys/doesn't buy the dining plan and for what reason, and no one else should either! But some of these posts seem like thinly veiled insults meant for those of us who choose to buy the plan (for whatever reason) and I'm being silly by engaging, which isn't like me.

Eat freely everyone!!! :rotfl:

Yeah, I understand your point. The argument against the DDP is basically that you would spend less... but it's missing the human element. Most people do not buy gift cards and take them with. That's a Dis'er thing to do. A typical guest would show up, see a menu, and order. They would do what they instinctively do, which is apply common sense and not go overboard because they know they will be charging it and going home to a credit card bill.

What the DDP does is helps people to visualize just how much dining will really cost, and pay for it 6 months in advance. When something is paid off in advance, it frees up the pressures on things like not buying a steak every time you go out to eat. Think about it. I don't order a steak every time we go out. Sometimes we'll split an app, because we're not made of money. But on vacation, it's nice to splurge. DDP helps people to do that by disconnecting the payment (6 mo in advance) from the use (when on vacation).

If you don't get this primary benefit, then you shouldn't be discussing the DDP. DDP is not first and foremost a spending engine to reduce costs. It is a way to separate the headaches of life (money) from the aloofness of vacation (enjoying the DDP w/o worry of what you're spending).

Now on a purely financial level, does it save money? Not necessarily. I would say in around half of all cases it's within +/- 10% of what you would otherwise spend. In other words, it's not going to make or break you, so really the intangibles are what matter more.

In the other half of cases, I'd say it comes out greater than a 10% loss 3/4 of the time, and greater than a 10% savings only 1/4 of the time. That's because for it to be a true saver, you have to be in an optimal demographic. WE were in that demographic for a long time! We were 2 adults traveling with 2-4 children and we'd hit up mostly character / entertainment fixed-cost meals. So I'd say if your party has at least as many people in the 3-9 ages (or more) as you have 10 and over, and you're doing at least half of your dining (or more) at fixed-cost (expensive) places, and you tend to eat meat-entrees when given a choice, then the DDP *will* save you money. Now those are 3 conditions and all have to apply for it to be a big saver.

Now that we have more adults, we are not as into the character meals and we get AP/DVC discounts on food, the DDP has become not a good option for us. But it's still a good option for some, and you should really talk to them about their vacation before telling them something is terrible.
 
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What the DDP does is helps people to visualize just how much dining will really cost, and pay for it 6 months in advance. When something is paid off in advance, it frees up the typical pressures on things like not buying a steak every time you go out to eat. Think about it. *I* don't order a steak every time we go out. Sometimes we'll split an app, because we're not made of money. But on vacation, it's nice to splurge. DDP helps people to do that by disconnecting the payment (6 mo in advance) from the use (when on vacation).

If you don't get this primary benefit, then you shouldn't be discussing the DDP. DDP is not first and foremost a spending engine to reduce costs. It is a way to separate the headaches of life (money) from the aloofness of vacation (enjoying the DDP w/o worry of what you're spending).


Yes! This portion in particular describes perfectly what I was thinking, but apparently not typing! :p
 
I found the one time we used a dinning plan, we over ate to justify the cost. Funny thing is that trip we there for 8 days with the deluxe dining plan, second trip 14 days with TIW. We spent more on food on the 8 day trip.
 
TIW is only available to AP holders.
Or dvc members like us.
All this discussion of the dining plan reminds me the Gold card which was being used in the 80s and mYbe into the early 90s. The precursor to the dining plans. But this card covered everything, all meals anywhere, including Victoria and Albert, tips, boats, water skiing, tickets to all parks, water parks, etc. we got it for our family of four twice. The first time we added everything up at the end and literally saved about 1000 on everything. It was AMAzing. The kids rented boats every day, hired a driver for water skiing, went to Victoria and Alberts, ate at all the best restaurants back then, got in free to all the original bars and clubs in the old downtown Disney, etc. we used to laugh because the servers at all the restaurants would literally throw food at you since the tip was included and the more you ordered the higher the tip. We over ate incredible amounts! Disney quickly learned how people like us could take advantage. The next year we came back and got it. But the price had gone up so much we ended losing money. That was our last foray into buying prepaid Disney meals.
 
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I think the Disney Dining Plan is terribly inconvenient. You literally have to follow the plan to the letter, and order some of the more expensive entrees, in order to make it "worth it". I don't want to eat a sit-down meal every day. It's too much food and too much time. Want an appetizer? You've thrown "value" out the window. Same with alcohol. I spend way less eating however I want than by using the dining plan.
 
Only if you plan on eating at a character or hi priced location every night and also if you eat a large lunch durign the day. I have found that if I get the plan for free or at a great discount-I save money. If I have to pay full price for the plan, I usually save around 300 dollars for just my wife and myself for the week by not taking the plan and paying out of pocket.
 

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