Is Castro dead?

[poohandwendy]

I think he is dead.

 

[jocon]

Our federal tax dollars hard at work:

Please, please, please let's not have this debate again...

 

[Miss Jasmine]

He's dead or in a coma with no hope of coming out of it.

I can understand Cubans celebrating at the hope of a free Cuba. Cubans have been waiting for such hope for a long time.

 

[Maleficent13]

Actual words would be more useful.

I gotta go with Dawn here...although I am not usually dense, I am not understanding the meaning behind

 

[ducklite]

Please, please, please let's not have this debate again...

Agreed. I'll ask the mods to close the thread if that begins. I wanted to have an intelligent conversation about the current situation in Cuba and perhaps how it's going to play out and affect the US. Can we keep it on topic?

Thanks!

Anne

 

[cardaway]

Celebrating death is pretty sick IMO. People certainly didn't like it when Iraqi's celebrated over our dead soldiers.

IMO it bunk that there is any difference. Celebrating death is celebrating death no matter who is doing it or who died.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

While yes it is celebrating a death per se, I think the real cause of celebration is a hope of freedom that could only come from Fidel's death.

Of course this is assuming that Fidel is really dead and that Raul will somehow be underminded or have some positive plans of his own.

 

[jgmklmhem]

Celebrating death is pretty sick IMO. People certainly didn't like it when it was Iraqi's celebrated our dead soldiers.

IMO it bunk that there is any difference. Celebrating death is celebrating death no matter who is doing it or who died.

Are you actually saying there is no difference. Is celebrating the death of someone like Hitler wrong, especially if you were one of those people he severely wronged? Castro to many of these people is no different (or at least not too far off). There are just some people that with their deaths the world becomes a much better place (Pol Pot, Stalin and others of that ilk included). Seeing as how these people oversaw the deaths of tens of thousands (possibly hundreds for each) of people I don't see it as sick to be glad, cheerful etc that they no longer have the ability to carry out their deeds.

 

[RitaZ.]

I think the real cause of celebration is a hope of freedom that could only come from Fidel's death.

That's it!

 

[cardaway]

While yes it is celebrating a death per se, I think the real cause of celebration is a hope of freedom that could only come from Fidel's death.

If it is a Cuban celebration in the name of freedom then that is not what I'm talking about.

There is a difference between a celebration of freedom and one filled with signs with pictures or words about the death of a single person.

 

[DawnCt1]

If it is a Cuban celebration in the name of freedom then that is not what I'm talking about.

There is a difference between a celebration of freedom and one filled with signs with pictures or words about the death of a single person.

Without his death, there is no hope of freedom. In addition, it is hard to conjure up any feelings of sadness over the death of an evil man who has put hundreds of his own people to death. Again, if he is gone, good riddance.

 

[Cool-Beans]

Celebrating death is pretty sick IMO. People certainly didn't like it when Iraqi's celebrated over our dead soldiers.

IMO it bunk that there is any difference. Celebrating death is celebrating death no matter who is doing it or who died.

Celebrating the death of a murderous ******* is not the same thing.

Sure, I'm glad he's dead (or soon to be), but I don't hold out a great deal of hope for the people of Cuba. A little bit, hope being "the thing with feathers" and all, but not much.

 

[luvwinnie]

Celebrating death is pretty sick IMO. People certainly didn't like it when Iraqi's celebrated over our dead soldiers.

IMO it bunk that there is any difference. Celebrating death is celebrating death no matter who is doing it or who died.

Absolutely speechless at this comparison.

 

[cardaway]

Celebrating the death of a murderous ******* is not the same thing.

In your opinion, it's certainly not mine.

Everything is relative based on what people think of the person who died. For example, if Bush was to die from choking on a pretzel, there would be celebrations in other countries over the death of a muderous...

Since it's a good bet people would think that was sick, I really don't see how anybody can say it's OK in some cases but not others.

 

[beachblanket]

I wanted to have an intelligent conversation about the current situation in Cuba and perhaps how it's going to play out and affect the US. Can we keep it on topic?

Sigh....I guess "intelligent" conversations on current events -- in the supposed interest of not ruffling feathers -- don't include acknowledging history. Yep, the current emotional environment in little Havana -- and the potential repercussions of political change in Cuba -- have absolutely nothing to do with the Camarioca or Mariel boatlifts, or Elian Gonzalez, or the Bay of Pigs.....mention these irrelevant, inflammatory subjects at your own risk!!

 

[beachblanket]

oops - duplicate post!

 

[Tiggeroo]

Remember the early scene in the wizard of oz.
Ding dong.....ya know
It's celebrating an end to tyrany and cruelty. Premature but you gotta hope

 

[Cool-Beans]

In your opinion, it's certainly not mine.

Everything is relative based on people think of the person who died. For example, if Bush was to die from choking on a pretzel, there would be celebrations in other countries over the death of a muderous...

Since it's a good bet people would think that was sick, I really don't see how anybody can say it's OK in some cases but not others.

I'm not sure what you mean about it not being your opinion. You don't believe he murdered people or forced them to stay in his country? Or you just don't think people should celebrate death? Truly asking, not doing the thing where people ask questions to be sarcastic. When I'm sarcastic, I add the sarcastic smiley.

But, you are right about the fact that how feel about someone impacts how you feel about their death. I think Castro was rotten SOB and I'm glad he's gone.

And if there is even the promise of a shred of hope for the poor people in Cuba, it's more than they had before. So, I'll do a "Hip, Hip, Hooray!"

 

[Cool-Beans]

Sigh....I guess "intelligent" conversations on current events -- in the supposed interest of never ruffling any feathers in any possible way -- don't include acknowledging history. Yep, the current emotional environment in little Havana -- and the potential repercussions of political change in Cuba -- have absolutely nothing to do with the Camarioca or Mariel boatlifts, or Elian Gonzalez, or the Bay of Pigs.....mention these irrelevant, inflammatory subjects at your own risk!!

It isn't a big deal. If she asks the mods to close it and IF they do, a new thread can be opened. This isn't even the first thread on Castro dying.

But I do think the whole Elian business is another subject. But there's a headline and picture for you if the borders were opened! He'd be on the front page of every newspaper and a millionaire in about a week.

 

[poohandwendy]

I don't have it in me to celebrate the death of anyone. I just see life and death as sacred and even the death of a horrible person is a solemn event (for me). I don't expect others to see it this way, just explaining how I see it.

Now, I can understand that people are celebrating, but I agree with Miss Jasmine, I think it is the idea of the changes that will take place. Or at least that is what I would be celebrating if I were Cuban.