Is Bush The Worst President Ever?

MizBlu said:
Please enlighten me as to how a group of people who get their positions solely through being elected by the public, do NOT represent America. I could understand someone fooling their constitutents once, but there aren't many freshman in Congress.

Soooo, what please explain it to me.

Do you think Bush is representative of America? I believe he is, b/c he was elected (twice). But I know there are many who will say that he most certainly is not. Point being, just b/c you're elected, doesn't mean you are representative of the majority who elected you.
 
DawnCt1 said:
He didn't???!!! Who helped him?? Do you think that Gorbachov really envisioned dismanteling his own empire because he wanted to be a nice guy? The Soviet Union was starving. They could either spend money on defense and aggression or they could feed their people. They knew that they could not keep up with the arms program that we embarked upon after the election of President Reagan. They were terrified of Star Wars and they knew they couldn't win. I would suggest that you read Reagan's War and learn how close we were to selling this country out to the Soviets. The arms deals that Carter would have pursued and planned to pursue had he won a second term were indeed frightening. I am glad that I didn't know it at the time. I wouldn't have slept at night!
With regard to the "rich benefitting most". You do understand that families that paid taxes under President Clinton have been completely taking off of the tax rolls. They pay no income taxes. Everyone benefited by having their taxes decreased. As a result more tax dollars were collected. That's what happens when you lower tax rates. It stimulates the economy, gives people a reason to work, to invest and to prosper.
Star Wars was not going to go anywhere especially since Canada said no damn way to helping out in that joke same with teh missle defence system the US wants to deploy now Canada will not allow them to place anything in our country and rightly so why make ourself an even bigger target than some say we allready are for terror attacks. I have to concur as a Canadian watching Bush turn the US into a state of disgust amongst not only the rest of the world but among his own people that pretty much constitutes worst ever IMHO or atleast very honourable mentions in teh category.
 
hokiefan33 said:
Personally, I'm no better or worse off now than I was when Bush was first elected, so I can't say that I, or my life, has suffered at all.

You're very lucky and in the minority. Most of us are worse off than when Bush was first elected. The company I work for is over 100 years old. They never had to downsize (even during the Depression) but there have been 2 downsizings in the last 3 years. I haven't had a raise since 2001 and I used to average 6-10% raises in the past. We used to get 4 weeks salary as a bonus, now we're lucky if we get 1 week. I won't go into gasoline prices since I don't drive a car, but my commuting costs have gone up 2 times in 2 years. (and that's because federal subsidies have gone down). I could go on and on, but that's enough.

So yeah, maybe Bush isn't the worse President ever, but he's one of the worse I've experienced.
 

hokiefan33 Personally said:
Maybe not you, and maybe not right now, but what about your kids and grandkids? Do think you and this country are better off now because of Ronald Reagan's policies 20 years ago? I would guess you would say yes. Can you honestly and thoughtfully review what this president has done here and abroad and project that 20 years from now your child will say yes also to GWB policies?
 
hokiefan33 said:
This has exactly squat to do with any actual poll that has taken place. Although Congress is designed to be representative of America, I just don't think it is.

Wow, so let me get this right. You are saying that your Republican Congress and your Republican Senate does not represent you? Then whom do you suggest we have in our government?
 
Do I think Bush is the worst President in my lifetme?

YES!

Do I think Bush is the worst President ever?

YES!

Do I think history will judge Bush as the worst Presdent ever?

Barring someone in the future being elected President who turns out to be as inept, corrupt, clueless and ineffecive as Bush...YES!
 
Independent said:
Wow, so let me get this right. You are saying that your Republican Congress and your Republican Senate does not represent you? Then whom do you suggest we have in our government?

That's what I think the poster saying....

but then...I realize that those defending Bush as vehemently as what they are would also brag how good the gas mileage is when they drive a car over a cliff.....
 
Bush the worst president of my 34 years ? Undoubtedly. Carter may come in a close second, but Bush has us involved in a war that wasn't needed and has lost over 2000 of our troops, has corruption all over his administration at the highest levels, and his proven inept at every turn. his only "successes" are qualified, at best, and he's done more damage to this country by cultivating a culture of fear than anyone since Joe McCarthy.

Bush the worst president ever ? Eh...probably not. As has been pointed out on this thread, there were certainly others with some pretty egregious mistakes on their resume. But hey...barring impeachment (pleasepleaseplease) Ol' Dubya still has a couple of years left...so there's still time for him to make the top of the list.
 
I can't say the worst ever - only time will tell. In my lifetime, Carter was not a good president (nice man), but very ineffectual and weak. Unfortunately, I believe Bush's legacy will be so much more damaging to our country than Carter's ever was, and will affect our children and grandchildren for years to come, so he's definitely on the list of the worst.
 
Missy1961 said:
You're very lucky and in the minority. Most of us are worse off than when Bush was first elected. The company I work for is over 100 years old. They never had to downsize (even during the Depression) but there have been 2 downsizings in the last 3 years. I haven't had a raise since 2001 and I used to average 6-10% raises in the past. We used to get 4 weeks salary as a bonus, now we're lucky if we get 1 week. I won't go into gasoline prices since I don't drive a car, but my commuting costs have gone up 2 times in 2 years. (and that's because federal subsidies have gone down). I could go on and on, but that's enough.

So yeah, maybe Bush isn't the worse President ever, but he's one of the worse I've experienced.
My husband works for the auto industry. I remember back in 1994 his boss writing on their checks,"You can thank NAFTA for any raise you will not be getting." Something to that effect. The reason we are in the shape we are is not because of Bush. Jobs going to Mexico and other countries is killing America. How many jobs have we lossed because of this "Fair Trade agreement." So many of my friends are afraid their companies will be relocating to Mexico. US manufacturing has lost millions of jobs. Michigan is horrible for jobs right now. NAFTA was passed when Clinton was in office. It took time to really see the negative impact NAFTA would have on the American economy. In Michigan we are really seeing it. I'm now thinking I can put some blame on Clinton for this. This downward turn in my household income started before Bush was in office.
 
hokiefan33 said:
I appreciate that you believe you have decent Presidential knowledge, but that claim alone doesn't by itself justify your claim that he's one of the worst presidents in history. That term "worst" is by definition a comparative claim, and will always be subject to other's opinions; it can never be proven right or wrong, b/c it is a comparative, and not an absolute.

Why exactly is Bush the cause of your high heating and gas bills? Please explain.

What exactly were Kerry's ideas, that you think were so much greater than Bush's? How was he going to implement them?

Personally, I'm no better or worse off now than I was when Bush was first elected, so I can't say that I, or my life, has suffered at all.

I'm glad that you appreciate the fact that I think I have decent presidential knowledge, but I know I do. And I never said that worst was a definition because it is in fact an opinion. An opinion which is the basis of this thread, so I was just contributing a little.

I never directly said Bush was the cause of my bills either, but the economy is. And he is very much in control of America's economy. It's fantastic that you haven't suffered at all, but that doesn't go for everybody. And that doesn't mean that years down the line, people aren't going to suffer. We, as a country, are not in a good place right now, whether you choose to see it or not.

President Bush is the head of our country. He creates the image people see of America. And right now our image is full of lies, deceit, and ineptness. It's going to be a tough job for whoever steps into the Presidency next to rectify all that Bush has done.
 
TnKrBeLlA012 said:
My husband works for the auto industry. I remember back in 1994 his boss writing on their checks,"You can thank NAFTA for any raise you will not be getting." Something to that effect. The reason we are in the shape we are is not because of Bush. Jobs going to Mexico and other countries is killing America. How many jobs have we lossed because of this "Fair Trade agreement." So many of my friends are afraid their companies will be relocating to Mexico. US manufacturing has lost millions of jobs. Michigan is horrible for jobs right now. NAFTA was passed when Clinton was in office. It took time to really see the negative impact NAFTA would have on the American economy. In Michigan we are really seeing it. I'm now thinking I can put some blame on Clinton for this. This downward turn in my household income started before Bush was in office.

Just for the record, I thought NAFTA was a horrible idea and agreed with Ross Perot that it would cause a sizable loss of jobs. Perot made sense when he said how are people making $0.50 per hour going to buy our products. He was right and I was very disappointed in Clinton for pushing NAFTA. However, most Democrats did not support NAFTA. That was a Republican pet project with 1 Democrat (Clinton) leading the pack.
 
Bush is bad yes - however in the UK Blair is worse - how many US/British troops have lost their lives over the past 2 years, it's terrible..
 
I am a middle of the road kid of guy. Not very into politics and always give whoever is President the right amount of respect for leading the country.

However, George W. really is the worst I have ever seen. I'm 41 and I really can't remember another President who has screwed up things as bad as Bush. I don't personally dislike him, but from the beginning I felt he just wasn't ready for prime time.

When he talks he just dosen't seem intelligent at all. I don't have confidence in him as a President but I did feel like he surrounded himself with smart people. However, I'm starting to see maybe he didn't even do that right. God Help us - and God Help this country. I personally don't think we can take another 3 years with this guy in the drivers seat.

The thing that bugs me is I know a lot of conservative people who still things he is a great Pres. I don't get that at all. Republican or Demorcrat, this guy is a LAME DUCK.
 
Just2554 said:
President Bush is the head of our country. He creates the image people see of America. And right now our image is full of lies, deceit, and ineptness. It's going to be a tough job for whoever steps into the Presidency next to rectify all that Bush has done.

100% correct, the reputation of the USA over here in Europe has been thoroughly ruined by Bush and his harebrained actions (Or non-actions like his 'response' to Katrina). He's seen as a warmonger, a religious fanatic and a moron over here.
 
Ah what a wonderful morning. Indictment Day! Yes Bush is the worst president ever. The man is an enemy of the state and has murdered thousands. He is a war criminal and should be punished as such.
 


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