WDW has changed a lot in the last five years. In fact it has changed the most since covid. The upkeep isn’t there. They are running skeleton crews. It’s a much more frustrating experience overall with a lot more nickel and diming. If you haven’t been since the crowds returned after the initial covid lull you really cannot say that people don’t have a right to complain. It’s not the same WDW anymore.
FTR you posted this the other day. It didn't sound like to me that you just hadn't been in the last 5 years. Saying "One day I will finally make it to WDW" def. doesn't give me that impression. If I had saw "one day I will finally make it back to WDW" I would have probably asked when is the last time you went, etc.
Again for 100th time. I never said ppl don't have a right to complain, just that complaining about BUILDING NEW ATTRACTIONS isn't really constructive because they have indeed built things and there have been new things in both US Parks in the last 5 years, my initial comment even included DLR and WDW even if folks seem fixated in WDW. As you can see here in a previous comment:
Yes they built a lot over the last five years; the problem is they have nothing on the horizon for the near future once Tron opens. Considering how long it takes disney to actually finish a project it’s a little concerning that if you go after May of this year there is nothing to entice you for a return trip to try the ‘next new thing’ for the foreseeable future especially with all the other failures happening in the park. If they announce a project at D 23 it would still take them several years to build and get it off the ground and they didn’t announce any projects. They announced some blue sky thinking that they might consider at some point doing. Considering all the projects that have actually been announced at D 23 that they said were a go and then they scrapped I don’t have any faith in the blue sky ideas that they put up.
I'm not one to really look at trash cans and bathroom stuff probably because I don't get there as often as others but I tell ya in Tomorrowland in May there was a bathroom that was probably one of the dirtiest, trashiest ones I had seen in a long time. It looked like no one had been to that one during the whole day just paper towels all over the floor because the trash cans were completely full, stalls out of toilet paper, it was a mess.
Remember the Mary Poppins attraction for Epcot that was announced? Yeah narry a peep about that. I've heard it's just on an indefinite hold not completely canceled but alrighty.
If you are only drawn to the parks by the 'next new thing' then the nostalgia must not mean much. You really can't have a full serving of both.
I didn't see anything like this on my trip this Christmas, but it's really a shame as this would be unheard of years ago. What bothers me more than dirty bathrooms is the condition of the actual rides. I saw people on Twitter posting pictures of the disgusting Small World boats and then about a week later there were reports of Disney cleaning the boats. Calling Disney out on their shortcomings works.
Yes! Exactly. Also they announced the Play pavilion in Epcot and that’s not happening and they announce the Mickey’s Town Square theater and that never happened either. They keep promising and then under delivering.
Actually you can because there are several places at Disney where they could build attractions or use spaces that they are leaving to sit and rot like little mermaid in Hollywood studios or stitches great escape in Magic Kingdom. The play pavilion scheduled for Epcot wouldn’t have taken anything away that they weren’t already taking away with the new spine. The town Square theater that they were going to add would’ve been a great upgrade for magic kingdom without losing anything. The Mary Poppins attraction wasn’t going to take anything except for the garden space in the UK. They don’t have to keep tearing down attractions to build new ones they have space they just choose not to.
This is where we differ. I don't really see that as a problem, they have more than enough ppl going to not need something new every year to "entice them to return". Personally I don't need a new attraction to return to a Disney Park either. I go because I like them as a whole, not only to see the newest thing. Each to their own there
I was just telling my husband about the boats yesterday because I saw the pics and then they got around the internet and shortly there after you saw pics of clean boats.
I would say that's inaccurate although I get your point.
That's the problem there isn't enough. Other then MK, the rest of the parks lack enough attractions for the amount of guests visiting. I have said it many times. Cedar Point has 71 attractions in 1 PARK, WDW has 48 over 4 parks. It's a big reason Genie+ availability sells out so quickly each day.This is where we differ. I don't really see that as a problem, they have more than enough ppl going to not need something new every year to "entice them to return". Personally I don't need a new attraction to return to a Disney Park either. I go because I like them as a whole, not only to see the newest thing. Each to their own there
Blue sky wise, I would much rather they do one big thing well that they do many lil things that don't amount to much overall. I love new lands when they happen because I love new theming and immersiveness. If the price for that awesome blue sky extra fantasyland villain world land is that there is no new rides for the next years then I'm happy to wait. Those that prefer going to theme parks to check out the new thing can enjoy Universal in the mean time, there are more than enough guests to go around both properties I think.
That's a good point. I don't know why all the planned renovations at EPCOT were cut/modified as they were, part of me wants to blame the previous management being cheap and taking park money for dis+ and other digital investments, but unless someone involved with them talks we might never know for sure (at least soon, we might learn about it in a docuseries in 20 years). I am hopeful thought that now they can take their blue sky ideas and make them a reality without promising things they don't end up building. I will even give them leeway on underdelivering because I know that you can want to make something and something happens that you can't, or can't for now. Like it happened with Avenger's Campus in DCA, they couldn't build everything they wanted in one go, but they are doing it in phases.
Yeah I will tell you my husband and I weren't that impressed with it. Oh I think the details were well done but I guess with all the hype they put into it we were expecting...more?? The dead space was just so in your face. I remember posting on the boards after we came back wondering why they didn't do like a small show or something at DL. They could have easily done that even with the two planes (I think it was two) they used for displays. They did have decent enough guest interactions like star troopers were out instigating things with guests but it was already tamed down just months after it had been open in terms of full on interactions (in fairness to Disney on that one Harry Potter eventually got like that too with less interactiveness as time went on but it was a lot longer over at Universal before this happened).
