Interesting analysis

[tvwalsh]

30% of members who responded to our poll will buy GCV.

24% of members who responded to our poll will buy Hawaii.

There are 400 villas proposed for Hawaii DVC.

There are, 50 two bedroom equivalent villas proposed for GCV.

Unless we have a breathtaking influx of new members (unlikely, I think), These results bode well for GCR sales and should serve as a warning for DVC on its highly ambitious plans for Hawaii.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

30% of members who responded to our poll will buy GCV.


24% of members who responded to our poll will buy Hawaii.


There are 400 villas proposed for Hawaii DVC.

There are, 50 two bedroom equivalent villas proposed for GCV.

Unless we have a breathtaking influx of new members (unlikely, I think), These results bode well for GCR sales and should serve as a warning for DVC on its highly ambitious plans for Hawaii.

if you equate the dis population to general pop then...
24% of hundreds of thousands of members is probably a VERY good start to HI sales
probably wont be that high, but the point is with sooo many members now they would need only a small % to get off to a good start

plus I would imagine there will be very very large amounts of people who are yet to be members on the west coast who will be quite interested & intrugued by the 2 new resorts

I highly doubt they will have even a slight problem selling Hawaii

 

[tvwalsh]

Do you agree that the Grand Californian Villas will be a runaway success?

 

[sjdisneywedding]

Do you agree that the Grand Californian Villas will be a runaway success?

I agree, yes

thats such a small number of rooms and it will be the only dvc at DL. I think they will go quick

probably even quicker now that HI is announced because west coasters will have 2 options which makes it more appealing and east coasters can double up on both resorts to help combat flight costs

 

[Tigger031266]

yes but california opens in 1 year and hawaii 2+

 

[Robo-Daddy 3000]

yes but california opens in 1 year and hawaii 2+

I believe Hawaii won't be open until 2012 but I haven't heard a date as to when GCV will open its DVC units. If it's going to be in 2008, I'm thinking that it won't be until late in the year.

When, oh when, will we be able to get a chance to see what these 2 bedroom equivalent rooms look like already?!?

 

[Deb & Bill]

2012? That's when the cataclysm is supposed to happen to end the world per The History Channel earlier this evening.

 

[DISNEY FIX]

2012? That's when the cataclysm is supposed to happen to end the world per The History Channel earlier this evening.

Can I book that at 7 months? Is there a preferred seating?

 

[sjdisneywedding]

yes but california opens in 1 year and hawaii 2+

makes no difference when they are going to open.

point is that they both will open. I dont think anyone is not going to buy because they cant get use of both resorts immediately

 

[scotttrippett]

we will be adding on. Hawaii is closer for us coming from Australia.

Scott

 

[tomandrobin]

The Hawaii Resort is to open in 2011, this is from the official Disney press release.

 

[dwelty]

When, oh when, will we be able to get a chance to see what these 2 bedroom equivalent rooms look like already?!?

Last I heard, sometime in Feb 08. The models at DLR were recently closed (about 2 weeks ago) for remodeling by the same company contracted to build the GCV.

 

[JimMIA]

30% of members who responded to our poll will buy GCV.

24% of members who responded to our poll will buy Hawaii.

There are 400 villas proposed for Hawaii DVC.

There are, 50 two bedroom equivalent villas proposed for GCV.

Unless we have a breathtaking influx of new members (unlikely, I think), These results bode well for GCR sales and should serve as a warning for DVC on its highly ambitious plans for Hawaii.

Well, when you do a poll here, you're really preaching to the choir. This is probably the most pro-DVC, pro-addon group of people on the planet, so I'm sure your results are tremendously skewed in favor of purchase.

That said, I think both resorts will sell well. As mentioned, West Coasters don't have any options within 2,500 miles or so, so this will be a big plus for them. DL is within easy driving distance of probably 40 million people, so that's a big plus. And Hawaii is the almost same flight time as WDW, but somehow it would seem closer to West Coasters.

With the very small number of units, I'd expect GCV to sell out very quickly. I think it will be very hard to get accommodations there at seven months, so it will be one resort where there really is a big home-resort advantage. OTOH, I suspect GCV will have little appeal to people East of the Mississippi, which is most of DVC's current membership. (From DVC's perspective, however, that is a huge plus -- this is opening up a huge new market for them.)

The Hawaiian property, I think, will have a wider audience than GCV. Hawaii will not only be of interest nationwide in the US, but also throughout the Asia-Pacific region. The question is whether that will translate to purchases, or only interest in using existing points to stay there.

The devil is in the details with both of these projects. What will the price-point be for purchases? What will the points-per-night be? And what will the dues be?

We don't have much interest in either property, personally. To be perfectly candid, in either location, I'd rather stay somewhere else. But I'm sure both resorts will do very well.

 

[tomandrobin]

Until final prices and point charts come out for Hawaii, its too hard to speculate the success or failure of the resort. I am guessing that Hawaii will do just fine.

We are waiting for a Caribbean location from DVC, before buting offsite.

 

[dianeschlicht]

I too think Hawaii will do just fine, and I suspect many of the buyers will be NON-Disney type people. They aren't going to be drawn by a park, so they will buy because of the quality of the name and the themeing at the resort, not because they are dyed in the wool Disney fanatics like many of us are. I think the buyers will be a different demographic.

 

[drakethib]

Do you agree that the Grand Californian Villas will be a runaway success?

I think so.

I think it will be sold out within the first week of open sales.