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[C.J. Sparrow]

I am strongly, strongly pro-life. Except in cases where the mother would die in childbirth, abortion is horrible.

 

[Pirate Me]

yeah. thats what I meant.

What do you think about a rape/molestation case? Specifically with a teenager/child.

If you are a child and you were raped then its not your fault you had a baby. They would be scared and abort. If you were mature and just became pregnant they shouldn't abort because they got themselves into it.

 

[hidmickey:myantidrug]

Okay, my opinions without getting my head to explode [likely the reason it's fairly short (for now ) and will probably sound like I'm already yelling and defending myself.].

I should be legal in every and all cases.

I would never personally get an abortion. And NO, this certainly does not make me a hypocrite.

I feel that adoption is a far superior option but that definitely has the strong possibility of being too emotionally straining for any given person to handle.

HOWEVER, which is worse~a woman getting an abortion or a woman having a baby that she will a) abuse (in any sense) b) neglect (as if it weren't abuse as it is) or c) not be able to care for at all?
It saddens me to think that there are people out there who feel that the former is the worst case scenario.

There are people that need to learn to stay out of people's business~ ESPECIALLY that which has ZERO effect on them. If you think its wrong, then don't get one. If you ever find yourself in that position, you have my full blessing to go ahead and get one.

I wouldn't doubt if what I'm about to quote has already been in here that I have yet to read but here we go...
"I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend TO THE DEATH your right to say it"
(substitue the first "say" with "choose to do with your fetus, pregnancy, etc." and the second with a simple "do" and we'll be perfect.)

Edits to surely follow.

That being said, the idea that people use it as a means of birth control sickens me and pisses me off.

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I am now seeing that this has somehow begun to include the marriage right of homosexual couples. That's something I am personally not in the mood of starting at this hour. Perhaps tomorrow I will edit to share my vast and never-ending opinions on the topic~the one which I hold close to my heart like no topic ever before.

 

[Sparx]

Okay, my opinions without getting my head to explode (likely the reason it's fairly short and will probably sound like I'm already yelling and defending myself).

I should be legal in every and all cases.

I would never personally get an abortion. And NO, this certainly does not make me a hypocrite.

I feel that adoption is a far superior option but that definitely has the strong possibility of being too emotionally straining for any given person to handle.

HOWEVER, which is worse~a woman getting an abortion or a woman having a baby that she will a) abuse (in any sense) b) neglect (as if it weren't abuse as it is) or c) not be able to care for at all?
It saddens me to think that there are people out there who feel that the former is the worst case scenario.

There are people that need to learn to stay out of people's business~ ESPECIALLY that which has ZERO effect on them. If you think its wrong, then don't get one. If you ever find yourself in that position, you have my full blessing to go ahead and get one.

I wouldn't doubt if what I'm about to quote has already been in here that I have yet to read but here we go...
"I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend TO THE DEATH your right to say it"

Edits to surely follow.

That being said, the idea that people use it as a means of birth control sickens me and pisses me off.

I can not agree with you more.

 

[Babyjustrun]

There was saying for a facebook group:

Against gay marriage and abortion? Then shut the hell up and don't get one.

 

[hidmickey:myantidrug]

I don't think something a private as a woman's womb can be judged by a majority vote.

Well said.

Who would have thought that when women burnt their bras another part of their body would be put in it's very own...Body by America, Fruit of the Pres,...

Edit: You can pretty much ignore this, it made a lot more sense in my head.

 

[swimer3]

The governement needs to stay out of people's personal lives.
period.
they screw enough up.

 

[C.J. Sparrow]

The governement needs to stay out of people's personal lives.
period.
they screw enough up.

I agree 100%. I'm getting pissed at people in the government, both left and right who try to get the government involved in everything. This is the land of the FREE. This is a Capitalist country, not a Socialist country!

 

[BabyPiglet]

I'm pretty iffy on this whole thing... I don't think a woman should be able to use it as a birth control type thing, but I do believe a rape victim should have it as a choice. But I don't believe the government should stick their noses in personal affairs like this.

So yeah, I don't really know. But I'm going with Pro-Choice.

 

[keypooh90]

I'm 100% against it. There is adoption and many counties/states have safe haven laws where women can leave the child/infant on the steps/entrance of a hospital or church. My state has that law and it is always an option for someone if they dont want to go through legalized adoption. I mean if someone made the mistake of unprotected sex they should be mature enough to deal with it the right way (adoption or if their teens raise it with their parents help- I have a friend who did just that and she is the proud mom of 3).

Gays/lesbian/bi/transgender- 100% against them having marriage rights. God created Adam and Eve (man and woman)- if gays/lesbians were ok he would have created an Adam/Adam couple and an Eve/Eve couple. But he didnt- enough said.

 

[BabyPiglet]

I'm 100% against it. There is adoption and many counties/states have safe haven laws where women can leave the child/infant on the steps/entrance of a hospital or church. My state has that law and it is always an option for someone if they dont want to go through legalized adoption. I mean if someone made the mistake of unprotected sex they should be mature enough to deal with it the right way (adoption or if their teens raise it with their parents help- I have a friend who did just that and she is the proud mom of 3).

Gays/lesbian/bi/transgender- 100% against them having marriage rights. God created Adam and Eve (man and woman)- if gays/lesbians were ok he would have created an Adam/Adam couple and an Eve/Eve couple. But he didnt- enough said.

But what about rape victims? Are the supposed to go through the pain of having a child also?

 

[keypooh90]

I dunno about rape. I just hate the thought of killing a baby-regardless of how it was created.

 

[BabyPiglet]

I guess most peoples' decisions rely on if they think a fetus is a baby or not...

 

[DramaQueen]

I guess most peoples' decisions rely on if they think a fetus is a baby or not...

We had this whole debate in philosophy class. about when the fetus becomes a BABY/HUMAN. And when/why it has "rights".

My view, is that the fetus should not have more rights than the woman. That may seem harsh to some, but I don't see why a woman should have to carry an unwanted baby around for 9 months and go through the pain of childbirth in cases of rape or accidents or whatever the case may be.

Alot of people say that they should give them up for adoption, but once again, the woman has to carry the baby for NINE WHOLE MONTHS, if a woman did not voluntarily make that choice, I don't think she should be forced to carry a baby that is unwanted. It would probably cause ALOT of depression, and hatred towards the fetus.

I understand that some religious people will bring religion into the mix. But I don't think by ANY means, that religion should have anything to do with laws.
And that goes for the gay/lesbian rights issue as well.

 

[Sparx]

I'm 100% against it. There is adoption and many counties/states have safe haven laws where women can leave the child/infant on the steps/entrance of a hospital or church. My state has that law and it is always an option for someone if they dont want to go through legalized adoption. I mean if someone made the mistake of unprotected sex they should be mature enough to deal with it the right way (adoption or if their teens raise it with their parents help- I have a friend who did just that and she is the proud mom of 3).

Gays/lesbian/bi/transgender- 100% against them having marriage rights. God created Adam and Eve (man and woman)- if gays/lesbians were ok he would have created an Adam/Adam couple and an Eve/Eve couple. But he didnt- enough said.

First off,
lets say that I'm a rape victim. Are you going to physically stand between me and an abortion doctor? Cause I'd smack you out of my way. At that point, I've had a man take almost everything from me. I'll be damned if I'm letting you take the rest of it away.

Second,
I am bisexual. How can you worship someone that says that I am not good enough to love someone and marry them?

 

[BabyPiglet]

We had this whole debate in philosophy class. about when the fetus becomes a BABY/HUMAN. And when/why it has "rights".

My view, is that the fetus should not have more rights than the woman. That may seem harsh to some, but I don't see why a woman should have to carry an unwanted baby around for 9 months and go through the pain of childbirth in cases of rape or accidents or whatever the case may be.

Alot of people say that they should give them up for adoption, but once again, the woman has to carry the baby for NINE WHOLE MONTHS, if a woman did not voluntarily make that choice, I don't think she should be forced to carry a baby that is unwanted. It would probably cause ALOT of depression, and hatred towards the fetus.

I understand that some religious people will bring religion into the mix. But I don't think by ANY means, that religion should have anything to do with laws.
And that goes for the gay/lesbian rights issue as well.

I agree, religion should not be brought into laws.

 

[Sparx]

I agree, what happened to the seperation of church and state? Religion, should not be brought into laws.

Thats not what that law is talking about. That only means that the church can't collect state taxes. It has nothing to do with laws.

(sorry. I just hate it when people misunderstand that law)

 

[BabyPiglet]

Thats not what that law is talking about. That only means that the church can't collect state taxes. It has nothing to do with laws.

(sorry. I just hate it when people misunderstand that law)

Really... Then my civics teacher needs to go back to college. We studied that for a month. I was just repeating what I was taught.

Sorry.

 

[Sparx]

Really... Then my civics teacher needs to go back to college. We studied that for a month. I was just repeating what I was taught.

Sorry.

Most people make the mistake. It just means that the church can not tax, collect taxes, and there is no official religion. if you interpret it very very loosly, you could possibly get out of it that there is no church related laws, but then again, people could say that all of the church related laws aren't religiously fuled, but morally.

 

[CheerExtreme]

I believe that if you have been raped you should have a choice. There was an Oprah episode about it and that young girls carying a child is KILLING them alone. I do not believe that you should be able to have a choice, but I do not totally and fully think that you should be able to just kill a baby, or whatever you want to call it.

As for the Gay Rights and such. I am straight myself and am a christian and believe in God and Jesus and Adam and Eve, but I have met some of the nicest people who are gay. In fact most of my cheer coaches are gay. And hey, guess what, THEY ARE CHRISTIAN! I don't think that god has shuned them or anything. I believe that they should have marriage rights. I know that my comment is a little off but I am just saying that that is what I believe.