Indiana Jones ride rumor at DHS

[skier_pete]

I think the following (and I KNOW nothing):

1) There will be an Indiana Jones component to the park.
2) It will NOT be the Temple of the Forbidden Eye.
3) They will likely change the stunt show out.
4) It won't be done by 2018. (Pixar Place/Land will be.)

 

[LATJLP]

I shudder to think how much ticket prices will go up after they spend $3B ....considering someone above estimated the New Fantasyland only cost $425million.

 

[tinklvsu]

I've ridden both Dinosaur and Indy, and while the logistics of the ride is *similar* ...the ride experience itself is completely different and far better than Dinosaur IMO - without a doubt. I would be THRILLED to get the Indy ride. I run to it first at DL, followed by their "better" version of Space Mountain. (my opinion again).....I'd actually be sad if that rumor wasn't true. I don't get to DL as often as WDW, so I would be glad to have that experience closer to "home." Regardless, just ready to see what really will be heading our way!

 

[rteetz]

I've ridden both Dinosaur and Indy, and while the logistics of the ride is *similar* ...the ride experience itself is completely different and far better than Dinosaur IMO - without a doubt. I would be THRILLED to get the Indy ride. I run to it first at DL, followed by their "better" version of Space Mountain. (my opinion again).....I'd actually be sad if that rumor wasn't true. I don't get to DL as often as WDW, so I would be glad to have that experience closer to "home." Regardless, just ready to see what really will be heading our way!

It's very unlikely that Indy comes to WDW from DLR. however that doesn't rule out that there may still be an Indy presence.

 

[dinolounger]

Only allow one fast pass for major rides others is standing on line

Exactly.

Which is why many were correctly stating years ago that FP+ is all about rationing.

Disney wants to run their parks at maximum capacity. The only way to do that is to "encourage" (read: force through quotas) guests to distribute themselves as evenly around each park as possible. That is why FP+ allocations now limit the number of "E" ticket choices, forcing guests to also accept passes to less desirable "attractions," which does exactly what Disney wants: it takes people who normally would be milling around the entrance to "Soarin" and forces them to instead mill around the entrance to Spaceship Earth, which increases the use of capacity at dynamic, riveting places like...Innoventions.

 

[dinolounger]

I've ridden both Dinosaur and Indy, and while the logistics of the ride is *similar* ...the ride experience itself is completely different and far better than Dinosaur IMO - without a doubt.

I agree. For all the scale and expense of Dinosaur, it's basically configured like an old fashioned "dark ride," where the majority of the time you are riding around in little or no lighting and the experience consists of startle effects that emerge from blackness and few real "set" pieces (i.e., large, open themed environments where you take in and are immersed in the environment of attraction). Indy on the other hand is all about set pieces and doesn't bury you in darkness for the majority of the ride like Dinosaur does.

their "better" version of Space Mountain.

If you like the version of SM at Disneyland better than the one at WDW, you'd be absolutely thrilled at the one in Hong Kong Disneyland, which is superior to both the U.S. versions. The track layout is much more thrilling than either DL or WDW, especially the last third of the ride where you literally feel like you are on a bat out of you-know-what.

 

[tinklvsu]

It's very unlikely that Indy comes to WDW from DLR. however that doesn't rule out that there may still be an Indy presence.

Yeah, I figure as much. I'm just ready to see/hear about anything I suppose. Besides, it's nice having different things at each park, so not having it would just make me want to return even faster ...

 

[sndral]

Having read that the technology/vehicles/tracks of DL's Indy and AK's Dinosaur are the same I am amazed at how differently I feel about the two rides. Indy I love, including the theming of the line. Dinosaur I want to love, but just don't. It's too loud, too dark, the story line too boring and I dislike having all that carnival stuff nearby - makes no sense to me - why is all that stuff in there anyway?
If Indy were to go into DHS, it would be a disconnect for me, in my world view Indy is supposed to be right next to the Jungle Cruise where it 'belongs.' Of course I made the adjustment to Star Tours being in DHS rather than tomorrow land where in my mind it 'belongs' so I suppose I'd adjust

 

[Douglas Dubh]

Dinosaur I want to love, but just don't. It's too loud, too dark, the story line too boring and I dislike having all that carnival stuff nearby - makes no sense to me - why is all that stuff in there anyway?[\QUOTE]

The story is roughly someone found a rich fossil area so the Dino Institute was establish to study them. People started visiting the Dino institute to see the fossils and Chester and Hester decided to cash in on the tourists by building a carnival. I believe C & H were supposed to be former employees.

 

[Josh Hendy]

The story is roughly someone found a rich fossil area so the Dino Institute was establish to study them. People started visiting the Dino institute to see the fossils and Chester and Hester decided to cash in on the tourists by building a carnival. I believe C & H were supposed to be former employees.

I think we can all agree ... this is a serious case of "backstory fail".

I have a feeling that for budgetary reasons they decided to install off-the-shelf rides and carny games ... then worked backwards from there to come up with a backstory that would relate their budget limitations to some kind of theme. Meet Chester and Hester.

The story of Jurassic Park is perfect ... completely logical and easy to understand. So come up with another simple, logical story. Like, this is the Land That Time Forgot, a hidden, unexplored corner of the world where dinosaurs still exist. Or, this is a really classy update of Dinosaur National Monument with the latest in cool transportation technology for exploring the fossil deposits ... fossil mine trains, advanced time travel centrifuges (spinner ride) and so on. Either magical, technologically cool, or both. Not tacky.

The Dinosaur ride itself has a story that is utterly un-engaging. The character who sets up the dinosaur snatch is completely unsympathetic. And it's just an actor on a video screen anyways, and then a voice coming from a speaker somewhere in the ceiling in the middle of the ride. How? Why? Who would travel back millions of years to the exact time when a giant meteor is coming? You're supposed to grab a dinosaur and bring him home ... What dinosaur? Catch him how? Carry him where? Nothing makes any sense.

Not to mention that the illusion of traveling back in time, driving a jeep through a rain forest, seeing living dinosaurs and then witnessing a gigantic meteor shower is literally nil.

I'll forgive Disney because they came up with a really wonderful, if incomplete, animal-based theme park. But somebody was really phoning it in from Burbank when they came up with Dino Land.

 

[britterbell]

I have been on both Dinosaur and Indiana Jones many times. Trust me, I never feel like I am on Dinosaur while riding IJ. I think it would be a great addition to DHS.

Never been to DL, but I agree that the IJ Ride would be a great additions to the Studios

 

[britterbell]

I think we can all agree ... this is a serious case of "backstory fail".

I have a feeling that for budgetary reasons they decided to install off-the-shelf rides and carny games ... then worked backwards from there to come up with a backstory that would relate their budget limitations to some kind of theme. Meet Chester and Hester.

The story of Jurassic Park is perfect ... completely logical and easy to understand. So come up with another simple, logical story. Like, this is the Land That Time Forgot, a hidden, unexplored corner of the world where dinosaurs still exist. Or, this is a really classy update of Dinosaur National Monument with the latest in cool transportation technology for exploring the fossil deposits ... fossil mine trains, advanced time travel centrifuges (spinner ride) and so on. Either magical, technologically cool, or both. Not tacky.

The Dinosaur ride itself has a story that is utterly un-engaging. The character who sets up the dinosaur snatch is completely unsympathetic. And it's just an actor on a video screen anyways, and then a voice coming from a speaker somewhere in the ceiling in the middle of the ride. How? Why? Who would travel back millions of years to the exact time when a giant meteor is coming? You're supposed to grab a dinosaur and bring him home ... What dinosaur? Catch him how? Carry him where? Nothing makes any sense.

Not to mention that the illusion of traveling back in time, driving a jeep through a rain forest, seeing living dinosaurs and then witnessing a gigantic meteor shower is literally nil.

I'll forgive Disney because they came up with a really wonderful, if incomplete, animal-based theme park. But somebody was really phoning it in from Burbank when they came up with Dino Land.

Although I do agree that for adults the backstory is somewhat lacking, it's exciting and engaging for kids. I remember as a little girl I loved the bone yard and all the midway games they had. The rest of AK is so well thought out I think an area that really targets kids isn't that bad.

 

[rteetz]

Never been to DL, but I agree that the IJ Ride would be a great additions to the Studios

Yes but not a 20 year old attraction from Anaheim.

 

[Lord Fantasius]

Even with as much as I liked Cars Land @ DCA, it's really just one major incredible ride and a whole bunch of tourist shops and food stands immersed in the Rt 66 Cars theme. Loved the area and experience...but for $800 million, that's alot of money for no c- or d-ticket rides to enjoy. And considering that if you have access to a car, you can go out and enjoy the same experience, with the real sights and stands just 4 hours away on the actual Rt 66 (which is about as long as it takes to stand in line for RSR anyways)! Disney will need to do way more for the Universe of Star Wars (or whatever they are going to call it) for it to bring DHS up to a full day park.

Truthfully, I think $3 billion is probably on the low side if you are talking about reconstructing half the park and bringing in both Star Wars and Pixar-Place. Not sure it needs an Indy/Forbidden Eye duplicate, but the ride mechanics could be used effectively for anything theme. Not every ride has to have a different ride mechanism to be enjoyed on its own merit...look how popular the different dark rides are at MK.

On the other point, even my girls who enjoy the carnival-type atmosphere at Paradise Pier @ DCA and the carnival rides in A Bugs Land, think Dino Land is out of place @ DAK and kind of just thrown in there. It really is incongruent to the rest of the park...no matter how much you try to sell the "backstory."

 

[rteetz]

that's alot of money for no c- or d-ticket rides to enjoy.

I'm pretty sure Mater's Junkyard Jamboree classifies as a C ticket and then next year Luigis new ride will likely also classify as a C so two C's and a E.

 

[rteetz]

Truthfully, I think $3 billion is probably on the low side if you are talking about reconstructing half the park and bringing in both Star Wars and Pixar-Place. Not sure it needs an Indy/Forbidden Eye duplicate, but the ride mechanics could be used effectively for anything theme. Not every ride has to have a different ride mechanism to be enjoyed on its own merit...look how popular the different dark rides are at MK.

Low side? 2.8 billion for infrastructure, pixar and star wars is a lot of money. The DCA redo cost 1.1-1.2 billion and that brought a lot of help to that park. 2.8 will go much farther than that.

 

[Lord Fantasius]

I'm pretty sure Mater's Junkyard Jamboree classifies as a C ticket and then next year Luigis new ride will likely also classify as a C so two C's and a E.

Sorry, yes, I forgot about Mater's Junkyard...which, yes, my daughters thoroughly enjoyed. O.k., so we got 2 rides out of the $800 million Cars Land addition. Right now, we could spend 4-5 days @ DLR, with almost 2 days @ DCA itself...can't hardly say the same thing about DHS or DAK COMBINED, though.

 

[rteetz]

Sorry, yes, I forgot about Mater's Junkyard...which, yes, my daughters thoroughly enjoyed. O.k., so we got 2 rides out of the $800 million Cars Land addition. Right now, we could spend 4-5 days @ DLR, with almost 2 days @ DCA itself...can't hardly say the same thing about DHS or DAK COMBINED, though.

I'll agree about DHS but I love AK and could spend a full day or more there.

 

[captainmoch]

Is there any chance that the stunt show stays, maybe getting updated a bit, and we ALSO get a new Indiana Jones ride? Not a Forbidden Eye clone either, something new. Is there space if they got rid of the Sounds Dangerous/Frozen theaters and some of the surrounding area for that much of a ride? I'm all for an Indy ride coming to DHS, but I feel like the Indy stunt show is too much of a popular people-eater to go. Same with LMA, but I can see that going a little bit more for being slightly more expensive and with less showtimes to eat people up.

 

[rteetz]

Is there any chance that the stunt show stays, maybe getting updated a bit, and we ALSO get a new Indiana Jones ride? Not a Forbidden Eye clone either, something new. Is there space if they got rid of the Sounds Dangerous/Frozen theaters and some of the surrounding area for that much of a ride? I'm all for an Indy ride coming to DHS, but I feel like the Indy stunt show is too much of a popular people-eater to go. Same with LMA, but I can see that going a little bit more for being slightly more expensive and with less showtimes to eat people up.

Everything except for ToT, RnRc, TSMM, Startours, and GMR are on the table be close.