Incentives and new pricing winter/spring 2025

The resale market is so hot right now with good prices that match 2018 prices and low ROFR, they don't even make it hard for us to decide what to do
Disney is counting on “what if I prefer to sleep around at not yet built resorts” FOMO to get people to pay $200+ for Poly when they can get the exact same Poly product for about $150 resale.

As we’ve seen around here, there are some people willing to pay 25-40% more for occasional stays at RIV or VDH and more flexibility with hypothetical future resorts, but I am not one of them and I would be surprised if it’s enough to sell RIV, PVB, VDH, CFW, and AUL at a fast pace… which will be fine as long as they are doing ok on hotel bookings, but could result in some deals if hotel bookings drop.
 
Akv plus 5
Ccv-plus 5
Ssr-plus 10
Okw-plus 10
Vgc-plus 20
Any others? (Out of active sales only)
 
Yep, pretty bad deals as expected. The last few really good sales tended to be during the summer periods so maybe next time? Unless they really decided they don't want to sell quickly but sell slowly at higher prices and rent them out in the meantime.

Have they ever done some sort of a 0% interest deal where they sell it to you at a high price but let you make payments out over a few years? As opposed to the 6 months that the Visa gives you? That could attract some more buyers since everyone wants to finance everything these days. Or have they always just done standard rate stuff?
 
Wow, I thought the incentives last time were meh, this time they are terrible. I don't think they want to sell at a faster pace since they can rent out any undeclared rooms. I don't think we'll see as great of incentives since the VGF sale to get all the declared inventory sold.

Yep, pretty bad deals as expected. The last few really good sales tended to be during the summer periods so maybe next time? Unless they really decided they don't want to sell quickly but sell slowly at higher prices and rent them out in the meantime.

Have they ever done some sort of a 0% interest deal where they sell it to you at a high price but let you make payments out over a few years? As opposed to the 6 months that the Visa gives you? That could attract some more buyers since everyone wants to finance everything these days. Or have they always just done standard rate stuff?

No, just their standard financing offers.
 
I believe Grand Floridian’s sold out price was $265 before they halted sales ahead of the Big Pine Key conversion.

It was $255, so looks like it went back to that plus the $10 increase!

For the rest I expected them to not get better. It seems to be that DVD is content with the total level of sales overall and no longer looking at things at the resort level, given how many resorts in active sales…plus this random incentives for sold out resorts.
 
the biggest change I see is that Fort Wilderness is no longer on clearance
This suggests to me that the plan has very much been the Fort cabins are a small part of a larger resort. I suspect the original plan was something like SSR: develop the general resort first, and then add the in-the-woods option later. Unfortunately, the pandemic reversed the order in the Fort/Reflections case.

but I'm not paying more than 45 mins ago for direct
Wait for a while, it won't be 45 minutes anymore! 8-)

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I'm feeling at least moderately okay about my purchase last month. I normally visit late Feb/early Mar each year for a week or so. For this year's trip, I have a one-night rental at RIV before moving to my OKW exchange. I've never stayed at RIV before, and that night was originally designed to be a "kick the tires" visit. If I liked it, I'd buy a Fixed Week 9 with a Feb UY in a studio there.

When this base price increase was announced, it occurred to me that if I did the same thing before the end of January, I'd get a (potentially) lower sales price, plus an extra year of points. I was already planning to bank all of my 2025 UY for this new purchase, because my 2025 trip is already booked, so the 2024 points were pure gravy. I sent them off to the Magical Beginnings maw rather than try to rent them myself. All told, I ended up saving about 12% by buying two months earlier.

I sure hope I like it there!
 
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