Impressions: Just back from Disney, Universal & Sea World

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So we just returned from a Disney, Universal and Sea World vacation and Disney remains our favorite. I've parroted the Disney marketing slogan before and have been asked if I would call it magical if not for Disney using that word on every piece of marketing and merchandise for the last decade. Truth be told, perhaps I wouldn't but I would use other descriptors that highlight the parks many achievements, namely the staff.

Universal was consistent with our prior trip there. The metal detectors continue to be the worst part of that park. I have a handheld
blower "fan" for keeping cool in the heat. It blows at 450+ CFM and can move hair like a runway model on people 6 feet away. I bet if I had a backpack full of these I'd sell them all. People are always asking me what it is and commenting on how forceful the air is at such distances. With their metal detectors, I can't have it on me while in line, even with my zippered pockets. It isn't heavy and certainly not enough to rip through a zipper but its a no-go. So is a water bottle to stay hydrated. Even with Express Pass Unlimited, the lines are 15 minutes of waiting and it could be much more comfortable with the fan. Oh well. The rides are fantastic and worth the hot wait. I was annoyed at myself for not noticing that the weekend we were there the parks closed early due to grad bash. Seemed unfair to close the parks early to regular people while the kids had full reign all day. The park did open early at 7am but good grief, that is a bit early to ride Velocicoaster! I wonder if the teenagers spend as much families with parents. I didn't see any of them buying The Mummy or Jurassic Park merch.

Sea World was a mix of good and bad. The rides were actually quite good, perhaps even more so than Universal and getting a chance to pet penguins was a memory for a lifetime. We had an express pass but it wasn't even checked at 70% of the rides and people seemed to pick up on that, going in the express like even when they didn't have it. On one ride I overheard the kids in front of us making light of how easy it was to sneak into the express lanes. Then to add insult to injury, on the Kraken, our express pass was not accepted because the kid operating it couldn't see the valid date due to wrinkling from me having to fold it so many times. He didn't bother to scan it because he didn't have a scanner. I had to walk to the Guest Services desk only to be told he should have scanned it. They don't have wrist bands or cards to prove express pass like Universal or Disney. Just a thermal print out on paper which doesn't hold up well to heat, folding or water rides.

The big issue with Sea World is the lack of control. There were many rides where they have zero line control. No one checking the express pass and worse, no one controlling the line integration between express and general. On one ride in particular, the standing surfboard ride, the two lines merge at the top of the steps where a small landing is. No one was there so the express line was trying to merge with the general line. As you might expect, the general line wasn't exactly willing to have anyone "cutting" in front of them. The control booth for the ride operators was about 12 feet away, over and past the ride tracks. I got the ride attendants attention and motioned in a way to ask how am I supposed to merge the lines. He just waved his hand as if I was asking which way to go and ignoring the fact I could only do so by cutting someone off. I mentioned this to Guest Services when I went to address the rejected express pass and they just said someone should have been there. Then they have other rides where the line system is pure chaos. Penguin Trek I think was the ride that has something like 12 lanes for boarding. For some, the first "car" is the coveted one since there won't be anyone in front of you and it was the one crowded with people. Kids were climbing on the chains and bars so much that every few minutes the ride operator would make an announcement that for their own safety, they needed to stop climbing on the ambassador chains and other barricades. Not that I blame her, because I don't but her tone was such that it didn't hide her frustration and irritation.

A shame really given the parks potential with such thrilling rides and shows, not to mention petting real live penguins! That alone was worth the price of admission! The complete and utter lack of line control and employee care is enough to make me doubt I'd ever return. I paid for a picture pass that despite presenting it at every ride that had the option, our folio had just 4 pictures. When it came time to go to our penguin excursion, we had a hard time finding where to be and each employee we asked had sent us to the wrong location. It took another patron to point us towards the lighthouse. We arrived late and nearly missed it. If just one of the employees we asked had actually known where to send us, we'd have arrived early. The park has poor signage and none of them mention the penguin experience.

Their app is the worst. I tried using it to navigate around but it kept telling me to turn on location sharing. The odd thing is, it already was. I tried on my wife's phone but it did the same thing to her. They didn't have any printed maps available and with the app useless, there was one benefit. I logged 25k steps that day, 2k more than my highest day at Epcot!

So back to that Disney magic. It isn't really magic at all. It's experience, an efficient administration, helpful employees, effective signage, coordination of staff, control of rides and lines and boundaries set to let guests know what behaviour won't be tolerated to the benefit of all. Combined, that is the magic of Disney. It isn't the rides or the food (which is better than the other parks) the decorations or the characters. It's how they implement all the nuances of running a theme park. Something their competitors could learn a thing or three from.
 
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Adding a few pictures, first of the adorable penguins. The Emperor penguin was brought over to Sea World as an egg so the woman standing just outside of camera view is the same one that has cared for him since he hatched. He is quite fond of her and didn't want to leave her side, often burying his nose into her. He was very sociable with the small group of us that were there but always went back to "Mamma". Our kids absolutely love penguins. They have a plethora of penguin plushies (more after visiting Sea World!) so this was a real treat for them.

The next image is the line chaos at Penguin Trek. This doesn't show the full mess as I didn't take it until after 20 minutes and only after making our way to row one. It does show the general idea, zero coordination and line control by Sea World staff. I guess it did promote talking with people around you as families had to figure out who was where and what line people were in because it wasn't self evident.

The last image shows the app. Could have been a nice app, had it actually worked.

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Here is a video for the audio of the ride operator at Penguin Trek. She repeated some variation of this message every few minutes. At one point, a group of kids broke/disconnected one of the chains and she really laid into them. Semi politely of course.
I can honestly say, I've never heard a ride operator make an announcement like this at Universal or Disney.

 
Thank you for your report. I am debating adding a day at Seaworld for our Nov. trip. We also enjoyed the parks but the lack of attendant at some rides made it strange to use the express pass. There would just be 2 lines meeting with no one to tell anyone who to go. I always felt like I was cutting and I hated it. The penguin ride wasn’t open yet on our last trip but that looks a little messy too.

There is just so much to do between Disney, Universal and Seaworld little things like this help to decide what to cut. I am a huge Disney fan but I find the Universal park so much easier to do with the express pass from the premier hotels. Looks like Universal might be getting more days this trip than the other parks.
 

So back to that Disney magic. It isn't really magic at all. It's experience, an efficient administration, helpful employees, effective signage, coordination of staff, control of rides and lines and boundaries set to let guests know what behaviour won't be tolerated to the benefit of all. Combined, that is the magic of Disney. It isn't the rides or the food (which is better than the other parks) the decorations or the characters. It's how they implement all the nuances of running a theme park. Something their competitors could learn a thing or three from.

That really is the Disney difference! Uni is great in it's own right, but it's never quite been to the level of Disney. I can't speak for SeaWorld as I haven't been in a long time, but I can imagine. I would like to pet a penguin!
 
Thank you for your report. I am debating adding a day at Seaworld for our Nov. trip. We also enjoyed the parks but the lack of attendant at some rides made it strange to use the express pass. There would just be 2 lines meeting with no one to tell anyone who to go. I always felt like I was cutting and I hated it. The penguin ride wasn’t open yet on our last trip but that looks a little messy too.

There is just so much to do between Disney, Universal and Seaworld little things like this help to decide what to cut. I am a huge Disney fan but I find the Universal park so much easier to do with the express pass from the premier hotels. Looks like Universal might be getting more days this trip than the other parks.
I agree totally. Universal makes the Express Pass an absolute breeze. The metal detectors are a pain, I miss having that blower fan while in line but luckily, the lines do seem shorter than at Disney. It was a member here that passed along the nugget of sage advice that it was less expensive to book a night or two at Loews and use it just for the Express Pass Unlimited. In our case for this visit, I booked one night for $640 after taxes which gave us two full days (until 6pm because I didn't check to see the park hours first) of EPU which at retail, if added to our AP would have cost $1,200 not to mention the early entry with the hotel. It was useful to offset the early closure.

I really do like the rides at universal. I really liked the Sea World rides too but I don't see us going back unless the kids are really keen on petting penguins again. We have Universal APs so we always squeeze a day or two in though we could just as easily spend all of our days at Epcot. (especially during the Food & Wine Festival!)
 
That really is the Disney difference! Uni is great in it's own right, but it's never quite been to the level of Disney. I can't speak for SeaWorld as I haven't been in a long time, but I can imagine. I would like to pet a penguin!
The penguins are the best part of Sea World. Them and the orcas though I feel sadness for the orcas. Seems wrong to put such large intelligent animals in closed tanks, even ones as big as theirs. I really wanted to pick the Emperor penguin up and give him a squeeze but that was a big no-no so, this guy will have to stand in for the hugs!

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So .... penguin questions. We went in 2017, and there was a cute ride that took you through the arctic and then this door opened and *bam* the penguin enclosure was right in front of you. The entire family loved it.

Then, in 2022, we waited in a ridiculous line for what felt like forever, thinking that we were waiting for the ride described above, but when we got into the building, it was just the penguins.

Is there something new now? We are debating adding Sea World to our trip.
 
So .... penguin questions. We went in 2017, and there was a cute ride that took you through the arctic and then this door opened and *bam* the penguin enclosure was right in front of you. The entire family loved it.

Then, in 2022, we waited in a ridiculous line for what felt like forever, thinking that we were waiting for the ride described above, but when we got into the building, it was just the penguins.

Is there something new now? We are debating adding Sea World to our trip.
No ride. The guide walked us over from the lighthouse to where the artic area is but we went right instead of left and into the arctic area. Then through a gate on the left, to a building further left and inside. There we changed shoes and entered their habitat. The reverse to leave.
 
I love going to SW! However, I don't do the rides (I go for the shows and to see the animals)

So .... penguin questions. We went in 2017, and there was a cute ride that took you through the arctic and then this door opened and *bam* the penguin enclosure was right in front of you. The entire family loved it.

Then, in 2022, we waited in a ridiculous line for what felt like forever, thinking that we were waiting for the ride described above, but when we got into the building, it was just the penguins.

Is there something new now? We are debating adding Sea World to our trip.

That ride is gone. There is a new ride in Antarctica, but it is a roller coaster
 
My family loves SeaWorld. They have the best collection of Coasters in Florida. Last time we went we rode Manta 5 times in one day. For us a parks value is on re rideability. As much as we like Disney, majority of their rides are 1 and one each trip. The last time we went to Universal we rode the Mummy 11 times
 
A few years ago wifey and I did a split stay with 3 days at Universal and 5 at Disney. When we checked into the Royal Pacific hotel at Universal, we found the safe in our room was still locked. We called the front desk to have someone come up and open it. This has happened before, no big deal we thought. When the tech got to the room, he used his electronic tool to open the safe, then IMMEDIATELY asked us to leave the room and radioed for help. Turns out there was a fully loaded gun in the safe...bullet in the chamber!!!!. Orlando police showed up. Oddly they took the gun away in a Fed Ex box. Wifey thought they were going to send it back to the owner but in reality the tech said "walking though the lobby with a gun is a bad idea. Putting it in a Fed Ex box to take it away is more calming. :)"

So....I completely understand the metal detectors at Universal. Who brings a loaded gun to a theme park....AND THEN FORGETS TO TAKE IT HOME !! Different clientele than Disney a bit.

BTW.....the gun had its serial number and they tracked down the owner and confirmed it was the same as the hotel guest. OPD said they'd be charging the owner with various gun violations.
 
My family loves SeaWorld. They have the best collection of Coasters in Florida. Last time we went we rode Manta 5 times in one day. For us a parks value is on re rideability. As much as we like Disney, majority of their rides are 1 and one each trip. The last time we went to Universal we rode the Mummy 11 times

Totally agree. Very thrilling and worth the price of admission. The park staff and lack of line control diminishes that experience.
The Mummy is a huge family favorite. I think we come home with at least three new items for the theater room display. Started small, then on to medium bit now it's down to the very large replicas we need.


A few years ago wifey and I did a split stay with 3 days at Universal and 5 at Disney. When we checked into the Royal Pacific hotel at Universal, we found the safe in our room was still locked. We called the front desk to have someone come up and open it. This has happened before, no big deal we thought. When the tech got to the room, he used his electronic tool to open the safe, then IMMEDIATELY asked us to leave the room and radioed for help. Turns out there was a fully loaded gun in the safe...bullet in the chamber!!!!. Orlando police showed up. Oddly they took the gun away in a Fed Ex box. Wifey thought they were going to send it back to the owner but in reality the tech said "walking though the lobby with a gun is a bad idea. Putting it in a Fed Ex box to take it away is more calming. :)"

So....I completely understand the metal detectors at Universal. Who brings a loaded gun to a theme park....AND THEN FORGETS TO TAKE IT HOME !! Different clientele than Disney a bit.

BTW.....the gun had its serial number and they tracked down the owner and confirmed it was the same as the hotel guest. OPD said they'd be charging the owner with various gun violations.

That's crazy. A gun on vacation---to theme parks of all places. Not a mindset I'll understand or relate to. I understand the need for the metal detectors at park entrances and even on the rides where a phone could become projectiles at the speeds and inversions these coasters are moving through, I just don't like the inconvenience of it! Orlando in August feels like Mars ----well, probably every single day. The few that can't be trusted set policy for everyone. Reminds me of Final Destination 4. I think that was the one where the kid snuck a camera and dropped it which precipitated the disaster.
 
Nice write up. I would sum up my perspective like this: I love Disney, I like Universal well enough (especially HHN), I like only the Penguins and shows at SeaWorld.

I think SW is good especially for locals, but like you I find it's too disorganized. The other issue for us is that the rollercoasters are too much, but thrill seekers will like them. I also prefer highly themed environments.

At Universal, we always have a good day and a half, so we like it as weekend trip (we're in NC so it's a quick flight). I really wish they would move beyond the many screen-based rides because I don't go on the very scary rides like Velocicoaster or Hulk, but I like Hagrid's, Spider-Man, and Mummy a lot. I just wish there were more rides like that and would do more highly themed environments like the Harry Potter lands. Looks like EU will fix that! We do UO every 5 years or so by getting an AP and doing a weekend at the beginning of the AP and another weekend at the end, combined with a night at HHN. With EP for both, we do everything in a weekend and DH goes on the wilder rides without me. But maybe EU will be more frequent as it looks a lot better!

Besides the CMs, at WDW I love the bubble feeling. I can look out from my balcony at the Contemporary/BLT, for instance, and see nothing but theme park or nature in the distance. The rest of the world feels so far. For me, the characters (IP) are definitely a big part also--nostalgia for both the park spaces, their histories, and of course, for Disney characters can't be put aside in my book, especially as a child of the '90s. Also, when you add the resorts, there's a lot of good food and we're always finding new favorite dishes. Finally, I think nobody does nighttime spectaculars like Disney. I have seen both Happily Ever After and Fantasmic countless times and I still can't get tired of them. We've been to every continent at least once, and to Europe many times, but still keep coming back to WDW every 2 years or so (it would be every year if it wasn't for Disneyland and Disney Cruise Line, where I get my Disney fix in off years, lol)
 
At Universal .... I really wish they would move beyond the many screen-based rides because I don't go on the very scary rides like Velocicoaster or Hulk, but I like Hagrid's, Spider-Man, and Mummy a lot.
Not sure what you want? Since Velocicoaster & Hulk have no screens but Spider-Man is entirely screen-based.
 
Nice write up. I would sum up my perspective like this: I love Disney, I like Universal well enough (especially HHN), I like only the Penguins and shows at SeaWorld.

I think SW is good especially for locals, but like you I find it's too disorganized. The other issue for us is that the rollercoasters are too much, but thrill seekers will like them. I also prefer highly themed environments.

At Universal, we always have a good day and a half, so we like it as weekend trip (we're in NC so it's a quick flight). I really wish they would move beyond the many screen-based rides because I don't go on the very scary rides like Velocicoaster or Hulk, but I like Hagrid's, Spider-Man, and Mummy a lot. I just wish there were more rides like that and would do more highly themed environments like the Harry Potter lands. Looks like EU will fix that! We do UO every 5 years or so by getting an AP and doing a weekend at the beginning of the AP and another weekend at the end, combined with a night at HHN. With EP for both, we do everything in a weekend and DH goes on the wilder rides without me. But maybe EU will be more frequent as it looks a lot better!

Besides the CMs, at WDW I love the bubble feeling. I can look out from my balcony at the Contemporary/BLT, for instance, and see nothing but theme park or nature in the distance. The rest of the world feels so far. For me, the characters (IP) are definitely a big part also--nostalgia for both the park spaces, their histories, and of course, for Disney characters can't be put aside in my book, especially as a child of the '90s. Also, when you add the resorts, there's a lot of good food and we're always finding new favorite dishes. Finally, I think nobody does nighttime spectaculars like Disney. I have seen both Happily Ever After and Fantasmic countless times and I still can't get tired of them. We've been to every continent at least once, and to Europe many times, but still keep coming back to WDW every 2 years or so (it would be every year if it wasn't for Disneyland and Disney Cruise Line, where I get my Disney fix in off years, lol)
I am a roller-coaster conundrum. I like them thrilling but I have a limit to how much my head can get tossed and shaken like a martini in the head restraints. That number is usually 3 times per ride. Any more than that and I'll start getting a headache. Some rides might be just twice and I'm done. The Hulk is one such ride. The head restraints are more jarring than the coaster.

I do like themes, from the intellectual properties I like such as Marvel, Remy, Toy Story and Jurassic Park. I like the harry potter rides but I dislike the films/books. The titular character always struck me as underwhelming. Hermione always seemed to have more acumen with magic than potter.

Like you, I do think screen based rides are nice, such as the avatar ride at Animal Kingdom and Soarin' at Epcot but for the most part, I prefer a more 3D/4D experience. The Jason Bourne show at Universal is amazing and it uses a screen in sch a way, it blurs the line between 2D and 3D very effectively.

I like staying on site at Disney for the same reason, it is more immersive since the real world is so far removed. This was Walt Disney's intent and it works. I'm just disappointed we couldn't go to the Star Wars hotel while it was there. I always figured we had time. I couldn't have imagined Disney would shutter something so expensive to bring to fruition, compelling for the fans and at the center of a renowned IP with fans the world over. I couldn't have been more wrong.

Disney Paris is on our bucket list but I don't expect it to be much different from Disneyland in California, it's constrained by space in much the same way.

We're in NC as well though we sometimes drive down, especially if we're doing a longer trip and visiting multiple parks. Flying from RDU is such a breeze with non stops to Orlando. It really only works for us on Disney-only trips when we can skip the car.

Will you be down for the Food & Wine Festival? We're going in October and staying at GF.
 
Not sure what you want? Since Velocicoaster & Hulk have no screens but Spider-Man is entirely screen-based.
It does incorporate some non-screen elements and the ride car moves around a lot from screen to screen so it breaks it up.
Unlike rides like Avatar.
 
Not sure what you want? Since Velocicoaster & Hulk have no screens but Spider-Man is entirely screen-based.
Oh, no, sorry that's not what I meant! Since I don't go on the scariest coasters, and a lot of the rest is screen rides (even Escape from Gringotts, sadly, though I still go on it every time for the queue), UO isn't as big a draw for me as it could be. But I know Hulk and Velocicoaster aren't screen-based rides, they're rollercoasters. Yes, Spider-Man is but that's the way to do it! Jimmy Fallon, Fast and Furious, etc, not as good quality--but I'll still go on them if I'm there cause why not... beats the FL sun!
 
I am a roller-coaster conundrum. I like them thrilling but I have a limit to how much my head can get tossed and shaken like a martini in the head restraints. That number is usually 3 times per ride. Any more than that and I'll start getting a headache. Some rides might be just twice and I'm done. The Hulk is one such ride. The head restraints are more jarring than the coaster.


Disney Paris is on our bucket list but I don't expect it to be much different from Disneyland in California, it's constrained by space in much the same way.

Hyperspace mountain at DLP is AMAZING.....but the signs say to make sure your head stays back.....that idea is the WORST.....it hurts your head so bad.....but if you hold your head forward, it is fine!

But also, I have taken the train there each time, and I didn't see any "outside" of Disneyland after I got there.....
 










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