I'm really disappointed with 1 less snack from QSDP!

[clanmcculloch]

Just to annoy you guys further, as someone had already posted, although U.S. residents only get one snack per day on the QSDP in 2012, U.K.residents will still get two snacks per day.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there will only be one version of each plan per calendar year. The computers are not set up to keep handle a UK QSDP. The UK publications must be incorrect because the dining brochure for 2012 which has been published by Disney clearly states only 1 snack credit in 2012. There is no separate dining plan for people from different regions of the world, only speparate discounts on the packages. I'd love to be wrong about this but I really don't see how I could be.

 

[Bonnie151]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there will only be one version of each plan per calendar year. The computers are not set up to keep handle a UK QSDP. The UK publications must be incorrect because the dining brochure for 2012 which has been published by Disney clearly states only 1 snack credit in 2012. There is no separate dining plan for people from different regions of the world, only speparate discounts on the packages. I'd love to be wrong about this but I really don't see how I could be.

It's currently being promoted (2 snacks) not only by all of the UK tour operators who participate in the Dining Plan but also by Disney itself. If you go onto the WDW website and on the bottom left click on United Kingdon: English, you'll be able to bring up the special offers (book by November something or other for 2012 holidays).

 

[clanmcculloch]

It's currently being promoted (2 snacks) not only by all of the UK tour operators who participate in the Dining Plan but also by Disney itself. If you go onto the WDW website and on the bottom left click on United Kingdon: English, you'll be able to bring up the special offers (book by November something or other for 2012 holidays).

I see what you're looking at and in no way am I disputing that it is written like that. If you click on the link to the QSDP plan you'll get the 2011 brochure that states it's only valid until 12/31/11. It wouldn't be the first time that the UK site has shown outdated info for dining plans. Every time what ends up happening is that the UK folks end up getting the exact same plan as the US folks regardless of what was written everywhere.

As I said, I would love to be wrong about this because IMO this is very much false advertising if I'm not wrong, but based on past observations I really don't think I am wrong.

 

[Bonnie151]

I see what you're looking at and in no way am I disputing that it is written like that. If you click on the link to the QSDP plan you'll get the 2011 brochure that states it's only valid until 12/31/11. It wouldn't be the first time that the UK site has shown outdated info for dining plans. Every time what ends up happening is that the UK folks end up getting the exact same plan as the US folks regardless of what was written everywhere.

As I said, I would love to be wrong about this because IMO this is very much false advertising if I'm not wrong, but based on past observations I really don't think I am wrong.

No, click on the terms and conditions at the bottom and you'll get the following link for the 2012 Dining Plan (FOR UK RESIDENTS): http://disneypackages.co.uk/2012-Quick-Service-Dining-Plan.pdf

ETA: It even specifies that it is for UK residents!

 

[clanmcculloch]

No, click on the terms and conditions at the bottom and you'll get the following link for the 2012 Dining Plan (FOR UK RESIDENTS): http://disneypackages.co.uk/2012-Quick-Service-Dining-Plan.pdf

ETA: It even specifies that it is for UK residents!

Sweet!! I'm glad to be proven wrong. It's the first time they've done a separate dining plan for the UK. I hope they can get the computers straight.

 

[VeganCupcake]

Not to hijack, but I skimmed through some of this thread and now I'm confused, I just called Disney to see how much it would be to add the QS dining plan and the woman told me for the rest of 2011 the prices are as follows
QS- A$39 C$15
DP- A$52 C$16
DDX- A$82 C$26


Random thought-
I guess this works out as a value for people if they are use to getting drinks and desserts with their meals, for us it just doesn't seem worth it, we bring huge water bottles into the park and never drink sodas, or eat desserts with QS meals as we eat snacks throughout the park all day.

 

[sharonabe]

Not to hijack, but I skimmed through some of this thread and now I'm confused, I just called Disney to see how much it would be to add the QS dining plan and the woman told me for the rest of 2011 the prices are as follows
QS- A$39 C$15
DP- A$52 C$16
DDX- A$82 C$26


Random thought-
I guess this works out as a value for people if they are use to getting drinks and desserts with their meals, for us it just doesn't seem worth it, we bring huge water bottles into the park and never drink sodas, or eat desserts with QS meals as we eat snacks throughout the park all day.

The people on the phone don't usually know how much the plans are. If you'll look at the sticky at the top of this forum "2011 Dining Plan Prices", you'll see what they really are and should be if you decide to get it.

 

[dynamite100]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there will only be one version of each plan per calendar year. The computers are not set up to keep handle a UK QSDP. The UK publications must be incorrect because the dining brochure for 2012 which has been published by Disney clearly states only 1 snack credit in 2012. There is no separate dining plan for people from different regions of the world, only speparate discounts on the packages. I'd love to be wrong about this but I really don't see how I could be.

UK residents who have booked for 2012 with the QSDP have it specified in their travel documentation that it is two snacks per day, so Disney is obliged to honor that.

 

[havoc315]

That's just it, they are not theoretical combinations for many, you only chose to make them so. Many's the time we've had Cosmic Rays Combo plate or Le Cellier Filet for lunch while in the parks and PM steak, Narcoossee's Surf & Turf, WPE Chicken or WPCafe for dinner.

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It appears to me you've made up your mind there is only one answer and there's no way a reasonable person could decide to get the dining plan.

If that's what you think I'm saying, then you haven't read my posts. First off, I don't lump the dining plans together. Each plan has a different analysis. And I routinely recommend the different plans for different people, depending on their preferences.
Even the QSDP -- which I don't personally like -- In this thread, I've listed the conditions under which the qsdp is still a good value. (Particularly if you love the soda mugs) And I've also pointed out that even without savings, many people may still like the "pre-paid" aspect.
So no, I've never ever suggested that "one size fits all."

For illustration purposes, for general analysis, I do like to use realistic examples. Looking at your list above -- Narcoose's surf and turf and Les Cellier? They have absolutely nothing to do with an analysis of the qsdp.

Pepper Market -- Sure, if you are staying at Coronado Springs, then taking meals at Pepper Market into account would indeed be wise. But for people staying anywhere else -- it is not realistic or common for people to go out of their way to get to Coronado Springs, just to eat quick service. With roundtrip Disney transportation, why would you spend over an hour in transportation just to eat a qs meal? (And if you have your own car, then you can eat for much much better value off property).
The Cosmic Rays Combo Plate? Sure, of course some people will order it. But if looking at a general analysis of the qsdp -- with over 100 entrees available at the various locations, why would we base a general analysis on the 1 and only item that is over $11? Out of the 100+ other entrees, the next most expensive is about $4 less expensive than the combo meal.
Using the combo meal as a general illustration, would be just as absurd as if I always used the cheapest possible QS breakfast for every QS credit. (About $7). You'll typically see in my illustrations, I use mid-priced items.

And based on your posts, I don't think you fundamentally disagree with me. I think you agree that the qsdp is only a legitimate savings mechanism for a small percentage of guests.

 

[persimmondeb]

I'm not obese, cheerfully consume all the soda and desserts Disney includes with the QSDP, and strongly feel that it saved us a substantial amount of money on our last trip (2010). Now, it was a few dollars cheaper, had the two snacks, and at that time included an extra beverage with breakfast in lieu of dessert (we'd get orange juice, and one of those ridiculously expensive Illy iced cappuccinos, with regular coffee in the resort mug). I am sure prices have gone up a bit too.

I gave up keeping track around the third day since we were obviously coming out ahead and I didn't care just how much we were saving, as long as we were to the good.

Would we eat like that OOP?

No, but because we don't want to pay for it, not because we wouldn't like to.

We did eat at WPE twice, and thoroughly enjoyed it, especially the creme brulee. At other places we often did two large/expensive meals and split them among three people, allowing us to use the credits for three full meals, and would use a snack credit for an extra dessert. We also left parks to do specific counter service options, which a lot of people wouldn't, and had some TS OOP (actually on a gift card included in our promotion).

We probably wouldn't use it again, but would either go back to the regular DDP or do the DxDP, both of which I'm sure would save us money. Now, this suits the way we like to eat, and the way we like to tour.

Those who disdain soda and dessert would not do well on this (or any other) Disney plan. Disney very clearly sets them up for people who like sweets and higher end entrees (and teenage boys).

 

[Dean]

If that's what you think I'm saying, then you haven't read my posts. First off, I don't lump the dining plans together. Each plan has a different analysis. And I routinely recommend the different plans for different people, depending on their preferences.
Even the QSDP -- which I don't personally like -- In this thread, I've listed the conditions under which the qsdp is still a good value. (Particularly if you love the soda mugs) And I've also pointed out that even without savings, many people may still like the "pre-paid" aspect.
So no, I've never ever suggested that "one size fits all."

For illustration purposes, for general analysis, I do like to use realistic examples. Looking at your list above -- Narcoose's surf and turf and Les Cellier? They have absolutely nothing to do with an analysis of the qsdp.

Pepper Market -- Sure, if you are staying at Coronado Springs, then taking meals at Pepper Market into account would indeed be wise. But for people staying anywhere else -- it is not realistic or common for people to go out of their way to get to Coronado Springs, just to eat quick service. With roundtrip Disney transportation, why would you spend over an hour in transportation just to eat a qs meal? (And if you have your own car, then you can eat for much much better value off property).
The Cosmic Rays Combo Plate? Sure, of course some people will order it. But if looking at a general analysis of the qsdp -- with over 100 entrees available at the various locations, why would we base a general analysis on the 1 and only item that is over $11? Out of the 100+ other entrees, the next most expensive is about $4 less expensive than the combo meal.
Using the combo meal as a general illustration, would be just as absurd as if I always used the cheapest possible QS breakfast for every QS credit. (About $7). You'll typically see in my illustrations, I use mid-priced items.

And based on your posts, I don't think you fundamentally disagree with me. I think you agree that the qsdp is only a legitimate savings mechanism for a small percentage of guests.

I was being more general than the QSP referencing other options about DPs in general. Based on the 2 thread's I've interacted with you and posts by others referencing you, yes that's what I get from your posts, that you've made up your mind there's no REASONABLE way for anyone to get value from the plans other than "maybe" the Dx Plan. Even in your post trying to say otherwise you're saying that PM is only a value if you're staying there which is again completely false. It's a value all the time though there may be times when attaining that value is not reasonable, not staying is not enough of a barrier unto itself. There are situations where EVERY plan is of value and a lot more where they are not. It is reasonable to spell out which is which, I believe I've done that. Even in my real world example for a 4 day plan, you simply ignored it rather than admitting that situation was both reasonable and a savings, it was actually basically choices we've made several times, although not necessarily combined in exactly the way presented, when using the QS options either for the QS plan or the basic plan. Even with the Dx plan, we went to WPE, B&C, and a couple of other lesser options else we could have shown a greater $$$ savings.

I'm curious to see what you would characterize as a reasonable use of the DP, esp the QSP, since you seem to feel I've mischaracterized you. As you've seen me state, it's a savings of 20% over full price in my book and I've posted reasonable and realistic ways that could be done, the options that don't provide that value are actually irrelevant unless you chose those options enough to erode the potential savings.