I'm going to kill my dog!!!!!

I don't know how often you post on the CB, but people here are pretty quick to respond to anything that even hints at abusive treatment of animals or children - thus the responses you received..

If your dog was not out in the driveway - in the crate - as some sort of punishment, I truly apologize..

If the dog was, I don't..
 
geeze - all I did was ask WHY your dog was sitting in a crate out in the driveway.

I'm still really rather confused as to what purpose that could serve.
 
I can't say I'm an over reactor but I cringed when I read the title of this thread.

Words written are WAY different than the spoken word. There are times when I just SCREAM that I'm going to KILL someone but that's in the heat of anger, not when I sit down and am thinking about it at at a keyboard.

C.Ann is right, we were concerned at your reaction. You shared it with us. How did you expect us to react, to be empathetic with you or the dog?

I think we all have moments but to tell the poster to lighten up when you shared an angry moment with us I find ridiculous. We don't know you and your situation enough to know WHAT you were going to do.
 

roliepolieoliefan,
I can totally understand your frustration. I have had both dogs AND cats that just WOULD NOT use the litter box/paper. I didn't read your post as abusive at all, just a very frustrated pet owner!;)
I also think alot of these comments from other posters are harsh and uncalled for.
Why anyone would want to make a frustrated person trying to vent - even more upset , is beyond me.:(
 
I was glad to read that you "used to be" a trainer. That attitude doesn't belong any where near a ring....
 
I want to "KILL MINE" everyday, but they soon will be a year old, and they go outside for 45min to an hour and STILL do thier duty on the floor!:rolleyes: YES, its frustrating, but I don't abuse them in anyway, and I just ask kind of loud: 'WHO DID THIS'? Of course, they do not answer me....:rolleyes: So, I get out the Mop and clean up the mess and life goes on............::yes::
 
Poohbear I had to laugh because that reminds me of this morning. I have 8 cats, yes 8 and they all live INSIDE, no outside for my babies! Anyway so I come downstairs this morning and there is a whole role of paper towels strawn all over the den. Of course I look around and said,

OKAY WHO DID THIS????

Then I cleaned it up while laughing. I adore my babies so much I can't remember once in the 10 years I've had cats really getting mad at them, frustrated a few times but never really mad.
 
Originally posted by roliepolieoliefan
Gees, you people are a little bit ridiculous. First, of all I should have known better than to post on here, where everyone makes a big deal out of everything.. I needed to vent because my dog is a bit head strong and poops in her crate when I leave her alone too much. I'm not going to kill her. I'm not going to give her to someone else and I'm not finding her a new home.And I didn't LEAVE her sitting in the driveway alone for hours in her dirty crate. She is the family pet, along with my other 14yo collie. There is nothing wrong with her medically. She goes to the vet reguarly. Like I said in the OP, I've tried different stuff and she still does it. Her crate is not too big either. And dogs usually won't go where they lay, but head strong ones will. We've been running alot lately with all my kids activities and that ticks her off. She likes to be around us, and she is only in her crate when we're not home. Gees, people LIGHTEN UP!!! You think what I see you people do to other posters, I should know better, guess I do now. Thanks LindaR and MZMickey it seems like you're the only ones who don't take everything personally people say on here. GEES!

:earseek:

Well I think you answered your own question. If my 8 month old pups get left alone too long they chew everything to pieces. I don't punish them because it is our fault.

Maybe you could get someone to come by and walk her on the days you are going to be gone a long time?
 
We only responded to what we read on your post. There were no hints or use of smilies anywhere to make us think you were kidding. Therefore, I think you got the sort of response your post deserved. If you hadn't, I would have been concerned about the lack of compassion from our fellow DISers. You should be happy that there are so many people concerned for the well-being of your pet.
 
Sometimes when my cat feels neglected he'll decide to be an absolute terror in the middle of the night. Believe me, there are times when I'm putting up with his antics at 3am that I lie in bed thinking "I could just kick him outside. I really could." But of course I don't! I don't think any of us were really questioning the frustration from which your sentiments stemmed, but the "I dragged her in her crate out to the driveway" did sound a little curious!

I read somewhere that dogs and cats are intellectually similar to 2 year old humans. They really don't know any better. When Sebastian starts getting bratty I know I just need to make the extra time for him, as frustrating as it is.
 
Wow! When I read your post and then went on to read the rest of the posts, I was a bit taken aback. I did not take the post to be by someone who is about to literally kill her dog. I took it to be by someone who is really frustrated, but just venting to the board. Maybe I can relate b/c I've been in the house all day with 3 and 4 year old boys:p

Also, let me start this next question with the statement that I am not a pet owner. I would never hurt one for anything in the world, but just don't want one at this time in my life, so my question is....

What is the purpose of a crate? Is it not to temporarily keep the pet in? If this is the case, then why is it considered cruel for the OP to have the dog in the crate? Even in the driveway. I mean, she's in PA. It's not like it's 90 degrees there right now.

Lori P. :)
 
AIRHEAD, guess you don't read too well, because I stated I used to train obedience, but still show in confirmation,,,,,,,,That being said, Like I originally stated, I needed to vent. Just came home after a trying day of running errands with my kids to find the dog pooped in her crate. I pulled the crate on the driveway(easier to hose it off) sat down here, took a couple deep breaths, posted, so I could calm down a little then cleaned up. Thought, I could get some kind works from my fellow Disners, thought wrong! Just made my day, worse. Maybe I did sound harsh, but I would never abuse my animals. My DH says I treat the dogs better than him. I work closely with the local collie rescue group. And do lots of animal related programs in the community. Thanks to all who could relate, because sometimes animals as much as we love them, can upset us alot. I take very good of my animals. I just had to put my 12yo collie down in July due to bladder cancer. For a year, she walked around wearing depends. She was OK physically except she had lots of accidents. And my now 14yo collie, is also OK physically but requires extra care due to her age. Just upsets me, people are so quick to judge and some are very nasty in the process.
 
I don't think everyone was nasty, and I think most people reacted to your statement about the dog being in the crate in the driveway.

Everyone gets frustrated with their pets, I still do. But if you were joking about that line, you made no hint of it in your post. Sorry if you feel attacked, but you needed to be more clear that you weren't punishing the dog, 'cause that's sure what it sounded like to me!
 
Thanks MOMM2 FOUR!! Like I stated, I should know better from what I see happen to other people on this board. And next time, I will. And yes, a crate is to keep a dog confined. She's a chewer, so she has to be in one while we're away from the house. Rawhides make her sick and I feel better with her confined anyhow. At least I know she'll only poop in the crate and not on my carpet. LOL
 
I didn't think the crate in the driveway was strange. The first thing I would do if my dog pooped in her crate would be to pull it outside - unless the weather wasn't right for that. Then I would go change clothes, etc. before cleaning her up. My dog's crate is her favorite safe place - where better to leave her while I get organized? Taking her out before I had a chance to put my purse down, go to the bathroom, change clothes, get her bath ready, etc. would be silly. Taking time to vent to some "friends" doesn't seem so bad either.

I spend lots of time with my dog, probably much more than average, but don't consider it neglect to spend the day running errands without her. My dog even spent her time in a crate when she was home alone inside until she was about two - this is what was recommended in all the books I read (for the dog's safety as well as your home!).

Roliepolieoliefan, not everyone thinks your post was odd!
 
I read the post as someone who was just really frustrated not mean or cruel.

Since you cannot know what her house and driveway look like it is possible, and probable also that the crate was not out near the sidewalk in the sun or in anyway endangering the dog. (All things some of you might well have imagined).

This is just another example of how people love to come out of the woodwork and act like they know everything going on in OP's mind. These type of accusations are in no way helpful or constructive. They are hurtful. I wish people would post questions such as "I don't understand what you said" or It sounded like you meant...." when they don't like the sound of what is being posted.

Wouldn't that be the most adult way to handle something like this? Then the OP could come and answer questions instead of defending herself against these type of attacks. And before a bunch of you post about how the OP sounded like she meant this or that and she should think before she posts, I put that same logic out to you all who went into attack mode.. think before you reply, ask questions before you accuse. It shows much more adult behavior.
 
I didn't notice anything in your post that suggested animal abuse or that you were actually about to kill your dog. Your frustration with the dog is obvious though.

Another person may have kicked the dog or done something along those lines when faced with this frustration. Instead, you put the dog in her crate and came here to vent about it. Sounds like a good way to remove yourself from a frustrating situation and decompress.

It's true that you didn't use smilies to reflect or hint at your true feelings, but maybe you don't like or were too upset to use smilies.

JMHO

:sunny:
 
The way I understand it is, you spent "the day" running errands and came home to find your dog pooped in her crate, right? Just how many hours was she in the crate?

"When ya gotta go, ya gotta go!" :teeth:

I don't think a person can wait several hours when they "have to go", so I'm sure a dog can't either.

And when a person posts on the board to "vent" they're going to get all kinds of responses, that's just the way it goes. If a person doesn't want to see the responses to something they've written, then don't go back to the thread...or better yet, don't start the thread at all unless you're willing to accept everyone else's response too.
 
Originally posted by tiggersmom2
roliepolieoliefan,
I can totally understand your frustration. I have had both dogs AND cats that just WOULD NOT use the litter box/paper. I didn't read your post as abusive at all, just a very frustrated pet owner!;)
I also think alot of these comments from other posters are harsh and uncalled for.
Why anyone would want to make a frustrated person trying to vent - even more upset , is beyond me.:(

Totally agree -- people get way too serious and righteous on these boards at time. Honestly I knew before I even opened the thread that op wasn't going to kill her dog. And being frustrated by putting your dog in the driveway in her crate after she pooped in it is no big deal. I send my dog down the basement to lay on his green couch when I get mad. It's a form of time out.
 














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