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We are DVC members. My sister is trying to get into a DVC room the week before Thanksgiving. We are going down there but don't have enough points for a 2 bedroom. Anyone know what her chances are for getting into the BWV or any of the other DVC hotels? In case I forgot to tell you she belongs to II. Thanks for all your help!;)
 
All that I have seen are studios for OKW and BCV for January, May and October and these go very quickly. Personally, I would not plan on getting a unit for that time period, although anything is possible. I think a Plan B should be devised and likely exercised to get the accommodations she is seeking. Renting points might be a good option.

Also, on a personal note, I assume that everyone's experiences with II cannot possibly be like mine (or they would be shut down by now!) but once my exchange is completed with them I will NEVER EVER deal with that group again. Their customer service is a joke, actually telling me after two major screwups in an exchange that they (and I quote) "never make mistakes" so their bizarre errors caused me literally hours and several phone calls before reaching someone who I hope has finally straightened out the situation.
 
I'm certain someone else can answer better than I can, but from what I've read on these boards, it's extremely difficult.
 
I would definetly recommend renting points. I had to upgrade froma studio to a 1BR for President's week (I am thrilled to have my sister-in-law and niece coming) but I could only get 3 of the nights DVC. The fourth night is costing me $496 cash!!!!

I thought I could pass out when they told me that.

Good luck
Sandy
 

There were units available for checkin the week before Thanksgiving through II. They were last minute, though and did not last long. I pulled one with my bonus week from another ts I own. Right now I do not remember if it was a one or two bedroom. It was at OKW. You checked out the Saturday or Sunday before Thanksgiving. You cannot guarantee that these units will be there again. I do know some of the members on Tug also found units the end of October to the middle of November. Also last minute. I have seen one bedrooms this year in January and the first part of May. They are gone now. Only at OKW, HH, and VB in off-season.
 
The week before thanksgiving might be available at 60 days out at OKW but likely a studio.
 
As someone else stated, DVC through II are tough, but not impossible. If they become available it is usually in the 45 days or less timeline.

I was successful last year. We purchased at BCV and HHI last year (July 02). We had our first visit home to the BCV scheduled for the week of Labor Day. We also had a week planned at the Beach Club for the first week of October. While cruising the II website (we also own a timeshare in Hawaii), I found several available weeks/units for the September-October timeframe. We I was lucky enough to have some bonus weeks in the bank so we used one of the bonus weeks to book a 2BR at OKW for the first week of October. Enjoyed the resort. This allowed us to experience both the BCV and OKW within one month of each other. Hope we are as happy with our trip to HHI this coming July.

Good luck!
 
As I mentioned, having regularly looked at the II site I was unable to find a one-bedroom at any point, but saw studios at OKW and very recently at BCV for trade. I have OKW for May, BCV for October.

I will never understand II's so-called system. For some to have seen/traded for more than a studio perhaps it had to do with what they traded it. I was told that my five-star resort in red time would trade for anything offered, but who knows?? I joined specifically to trade into Disney, understanding that it is difficult, but even though I had several requests in for Disney resorts I was never offered one, even when they came up in the system as available. Both times I had to call II, was told that there were no Disney resorts available, point them to their website and eventually get the reservation. Actually, the second time I lost a preferred reservation because the rep at II literally took 30 minutes to figure out their system and it "disappeared" after about 20 minutes. I was not happy that it was not held while she was trained :rolleyes: I am really, really hoping all goes well with both of these! Unfortunately you cannot deal directly with Disney to confirm as they are not transferred to your name until very shortly before the arrival date.

Again, if I had it to do over, I would have rented out my timeshare to friends or co-workers, then rented points for my Disney stay. (I joined II before we became DVC owners.) Good luck!
 
Originally posted by Sharper
As I mentioned, having regularly looked at the II site I was unable to find a one-bedroom at any point, but saw studios at OKW and very recently at BCV for trade. I have OKW for May, BCV for October.

I will never understand II's so-called system. For some to have seen/traded for more than a studio perhaps it had to do with what they traded it. I was told that my five-star resort in red time would trade for anything offered, but who knows?? I joined specifically to trade into Disney, understanding that it is difficult, but even though I had several requests in for Disney resorts I was never offered one, even when they came up in the system as available. Both times I had to call II, was told that there were no Disney resorts available, point them to their website and eventually get the reservation. Actually, the second time I lost a preferred reservation because the rep at II literally took 30 minutes to figure out their system and it "disappeared" after about 20 minutes. I was not happy that it was not held while she was trained :rolleyes: I am really, really hoping all goes well with both of these! Unfortunately you cannot deal directly with Disney to confirm as they are not transferred to your name until very shortly before the arrival date.

Again, if I had it to do over, I would have rented out my timeshare to friends or co-workers, then rented points for my Disney stay. (I joined II before we became DVC owners.) Good luck!
I have seen a number of larger units at OKW. My guess is that your unit does not have the trade power to get a unit larger than you have seen. This happens all the time that a larger unit at a slightly lessor resort will pull studios but nothing else. I find it interesting that you wanted to complicate your life to the point that you bought another timeshare with the main purpose of trading into DVC.

As for them being there and not being offered, did you have the full kitchen required option and did you have more than 4 people traveling listed?
 
Originally posted by Dean
I have seen a number of larger units at OKW. My guess is that your unit does not have the trade power to get a unit larger than you have seen. This happens all the time that a larger unit at a slightly lessor resort will pull studios but nothing else. I find it interesting that you wanted to complicate your life to the point that you bought another timeshare with the main purpose of trading into DVC.

As for them being there and not being offered, did you have the full kitchen required option and did you have more than 4 people traveling listed?

?? I did not buy another timeshare with the main purpose of trading into DVC. I have owned non-DVC units for several years. I joined II last year during a telephone solicitation only because of the potential for trading into Disney. I don't have a lesser, large unit, just a one-bedroom for trade through II. One of the MANY problems with II is that initially they had my unit listed as an efficiency, sleeping 2, no kitchen. That took weeks and many phone calls to correct, and several confirmations from my other resort confirming that it has a separate bedroom and a full kitchen, sleeping four. That is probably part of why I could not see any more than studios for a time. But I checked the website probably a hundred times during the last couple of months and never once saw a one-bedroom for trade, just the studios. Perhaps they only deposit studios and two-bedroom units, or, stunningly, their "system" does not work correctly.

I was actually very surprised to see the BCV units available. I would have slightly preferred OKW for that particular visit, but certainly can't complain about BCV!
 
I have done some comparisons with searches for DVC through II. I have red and yellow weeks at the same resort. The red will pull the one and two bedroom at DVC, but the yellow will only pull studios. Both weeks are two bedrooms at a resort that has high ratings with II. After paying $340 mf, $129 exchange fee, and another fee for transportation to Disney through II, to me it is not worth it to trade for a studio. Most of the time we stay only four or five nights, not the whole week. Owning DVC works better for us.
 
Originally posted by BeckyV
I have done some comparisons with searches for DVC through II. I have red and yellow weeks at the same resort. The red will pull the one and two bedroom at DVC, but the yellow will only pull studios. Both weeks are two bedrooms at a resort that has high ratings with II. After paying $340 mf, $129 exchange fee, and another fee for transportation to Disney through II, to me it is not worth it to trade for a studio. Most of the time we stay only four or five nights, not the whole week. Owning DVC works better for us.

"$340 mf" ?? I hope this wasn't your membership fee for II! My week is a red one-bedroom, but I only had access to studios unless I just happened to miss seeing them available online.

Owning DVC is most definitely the route to take if you actually want to be able to stay at Disney! I had hoped to make the trade as we are a little tired of the other resort at the moment, but it cost us a total of $295 plus the week traded in for a studio. That trade-off is okay by itself, but definitely not worth the hassles I have been through with II to obtain it, particularly since we primarily want it to extend our stay through the weekend without sacrificing major points. I don't know that the four of us can stay in a studio more than a couple of days!
 
Originally posted by Sharper
?? I did not buy another timeshare with the main purpose of trading into DVC. I have owned non-DVC units for several years. I joined II last year during a telephone solicitation only because of the potential for trading into Disney. I don't have a lesser, large unit, just a one-bedroom for trade through II. One of the MANY problems with II is that initially they had my unit listed as an efficiency, sleeping 2, no kitchen. That took weeks and many phone calls to correct, and several confirmations from my other resort confirming that it has a separate bedroom and a full kitchen, sleeping four. That is probably part of why I could not see any more than studios for a time. But I checked the website probably a hundred times during the last couple of months and never once saw a one-bedroom for trade, just the studios. Perhaps they only deposit studios and two-bedroom units, or, stunningly, their "system" does not work correctly.

I was actually very surprised to see the BCV units available. I would have slightly preferred OKW for that particular visit, but certainly can't complain about BCV!
Sorry, maybe I misunderstood.
I joined specifically to trade into Disney, understanding that it is difficult,
I have seen a number of 1 and 2 BR units on line at HH, VB and especially OKW. I still suspect that in II's eyes you have a resort not rated quite as highly and that's the reason you're only seeing studios. If II sees it as only a studio, they will only show you that regardless of what the resorts says. If II sees it as a 1 BR, they will show you 1 BR and smaller units only until the 60 day window. All the resorts I own are 5* and only 2 of the 4 resorts I own are highly rated enough to pull DVC other than in the 60 day flexchange period. It doens't take much variation to be outside of the quality range with II. I know that when I do searches in general, I get a completely different set of choices with each of the resorts I own. In many cases there is almost no overlap of the search returns at all. It's very interesting to see such variation when comparing searches from what are otherwise all great 5* resorts.
 
"Maybe" you misunderstood? I don't get the maybe. Sorry if I confused you. As you quoted, I "joined" II to trade for Disney. I didn't purchase a timeshare just to trade.

It makes perfect sense that different resorts trade at different values. That is not how the telephone solicitor explained it, however. She acknowledged that there were not a lot of Disney property for trade, but said that all red week units of the same size had the same trade value. Again, live and learn and that misrepresentation is one of a several reasons why I will not continue my membership with II.
 
Originally posted by Sharper
"Maybe" you misunderstood? I don't get the maybe. Sorry if I confused you. As you quoted, I "joined" II to trade for Disney. I didn't purchase a timeshare just to trade.

It makes perfect sense that different resorts trade at different values. That is not how the telephone solicitor explained it, however. She acknowledged that there were not a lot of Disney property for trade, but said that all red week units of the same size had the same trade value. Again, live and learn and that misrepresentation is one of a several reasons why I will not continue my membership with II.
II is very secretive about the trade values of each week. It actually varies by resort, location and by specific week. Think of an algebraic formula that combines the QRS (quality rating system), unit size, demand for the resort, demand for the week and time in advance deposited. II then stratifies the resorts. Since II doesn't give you their info, the best I can use to discuss the resort quality is the TUG ratings. If you assume a 10 pt scale and figure most 5* resorts are rated from 8-10, that gives you something to work from. Assume that an 8 rated resort won't trade for an 8.5 which won't trade for a 9 which won't trade for a 9.5. Even if there are units sitting there, they won't give them to you until 60 days out. This is how all exchange systems work in general though there are individual variations for the indepent companies.

The reason II doesn't tell you all this is this. Put yourself in the position of a 5 rated resort. Would you want to be a member of a company for exchange that tells everyone you're crap. Remember that II works more for the resorts than for the owners.

BTW, where do you own, I don't recall?
 
















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