If you where the old lady in Titanic....

Let me start by saying I HATE that movie. She had 3 opportunities to get into a lifeboat. Had she done that the first time, he might have had a chance to save himself instead of whatever dumb a** game they played out on the ship!!

He could have then saved himself knowing she was safe!! I believe it was all her fault he was dead!! :headache:

There, I said it in public. One of my least fav movies of ALL time!!

To me, the pivot point was when she WAS in the lifeboat and they were lowering it down. She decided to jump out of it and because of it, he had himself and her to save/worry about. If she hadn't jumped out of the boat and the rest of the events remained the same, she would have been safe in a lifeboat and he would have had the door/driftwood and most likely, remained alive. And they could have lived happily ever after. That one single event irks me to no end.
 
To me, the pivot point was when she WAS in the lifeboat and they were lowering it down. She decided to jump out of it and because of it, he had himself and her to save/worry about. If she hadn't jumped out of the boat and the rest of the events remained the same, she would have been safe in a lifeboat and he would have had the door/driftwood and most likely, remained alive. And they could have lived happily ever after. That one single event irks me to no end.

And if she remained in the lifeboat she would have been with her mother and under her mother's guard, probably reunited with Cal and forced to marry him.

The story of Rose and Jack is FICTIONAL. This was a FICTIONAL storyline designed to be different from what we know to be the traditional stories of the Titanic.
 
And if she remained in the lifeboat she would have been with her mother and under her mother's guard, probably reunited with Cal and forced to marry him.

The story of Rose and Jack is FICTIONAL. This was a FICTIONAL storyline designed to be different from what we know to be the traditional stories of the Titanic.


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I understand the story is FICTIONAL. I don't like the FICTIONAL story!
 
Ok, I am mixed on the movie: I will say I cry at every ship disaster and even cry when I hear the Edmund Fitzerald song.

As for the movie: Billy Zane-gracious whew. Oh, ok, back to the subject. if I were Rose: When the Carpathia picked them up and she sees Cal- I would have made sure he saw me near the side of the ship holding the necklace and let that puppy drop:thumbsup2

What's funny is that they were like Women and children, but Bruce Izmae was able to get on, I'm just sayin.

Rose jumping off the lifeboat, maybe they were trying to recreate the story of Isodor Strauss, who's wife refused to get in the lifeboat and died with him on the Titanic for real. But that door looked big enough for them both, and there was other things floating around.

I was truly troubled by: 3class steerage mother with red hair was trying to get her kids to go to sleep knowing dang well they would be woken up by the frigid water as the ship sank.
 

She couldn't have sold it because I'm sure Cal (I think that was his name) had reported it as having gone down with the ship and so the insurance company would have paid him for it. It therefore was "owned" by the insurance company. Had she donated it, the insurance company would have swooped in and taken it. I think she figured that, since the world viewed it as having been lost at sea (and so had her real identity, which she changed when she was rescued to "Rose Dawson"), it rightfully should be "lost at sea."

I like thinking that she gave her heart to Jack, too. But I think that in practical terms, the re-emergence of that artifact would have caused a big legal problem for whoever she decided to give it to.

-Dorothy (LadyZolt)



Cal did report it to the insurance company, so she couldn't have sold it. I like that she threw it in the ocean.

I love this movie. :love:
 
My opinion stated earlier is very much colored by the fact that Titanic is IMO one of the most pompous pieces of drivel ever put to film. James Cameron is lucky he directed one of my favorite movies ever (Aliens) otherwise I'd have written him off after Titanic.
 
And if she remained in the lifeboat she would have been with her mother and under her mother's guard, probably reunited with Cal and forced to marry him.

The story of Rose and Jack is FICTIONAL. This was a FICTIONAL storyline designed to be different from what we know to be the traditional stories of the Titanic.
It was a fictional story yes but why the need to be so cruel when talking about real people?

In both the 1996 and 1997 films, Murdoch committed suicide. The 1997 film depicted Murdoch taking — but later rejecting — a bribe from villain Caledon Hockley; and shooting two passengers (Tommy Ryan and another unidentified passenger) dead in a mob on the deck after Murdoch presumes they intend to storm one of the remaining lifeboats. Murdoch then salutes Chief Officer Henry Wilde and commits suicide by firing the pistol into his temple, his body crumpling backwards into the sea. After film producers refused to take out Murdoch's suicide scene, studio executives later flew to Murdoch's hometown to issue an apology for this depiction to his surviving relatives.[13] Surviving eyewitnesses reported that he worked diligently until the end, and was seen alive in the water after the ship went down. (See the 2nd paragraph of the "Titanic's sinking" section above.). Murdoch's nephew was upset by this his home town who remember the hero he was was angry about it. Some myths about the Titanic

1. The Ship’s orchestra switched from dance music to the hymn “Nearer
My God To Thee” as the Ship broke apart and sank.
2. White Star Lines manager Bruce Ismay pressured Captain Smith to
maintain full speed because he wanted to break the record for a
transatlantic crossing.
3. There were ships close enough to rescue Titanic’s passengers if they’d
known how bad the situation was.
4. Many of Titanic’s lifeboats left half-empty.
5. Some men disguised themselves as women to sneak onto the
lifeboats.
6. If watchmen in the crow’s nest had binoculars, they would have seen
the iceberg in time to avoid the collision.
7. Crewman locked third class passengers below deck so they wouldn’t
come to the upper decks and interfere with evacuating first class
passengers.
8. Bruce Ismay, managing director of White Star Lines, felt so guilty
after escaping in a lifeboat that he later committed suicide.
9. Titanic Captain Edward J. Smith was making his final voyage with
White Star Lines.
10. First Officer William Murdoch shot a Titanic passenger and then,
overcome by stress, turned the gun on himself
answers
FALSE. The band did play on deck to provide comfort as the ship sank, but
there’s no evidence that “Nearer My God To Thee” was among their final tunes.
Harold Bride, one of Titanic’s two radio operators, was one of the last crew
members to leave the Ship. He told reporters that he distinctly remembered the
band playing a sad waltz called “Autumn” just before conditions forced them to
stop.
2. FALSE. Titanic couldn’t beat the cruising speeds or crossing times of the
Mauritania or the Lusitania, flagships of the competing Cunard Line. Ismay may
have challenged the crew to beat the crossing time of Titanic’s sister ship, the
Olympic, but there’s no evidence he interfered with decisions on the bridge.
3. TRUE. The Californian had stopped dead in the water to avoid steering through
an ice field at night. It is estimated that the Californian was only 15-18 miles
away from Titanic, close enough to have reached the ship before it sank.
4. TRUE. Many passengers were reluctant to leave the ship and row off to an
unknown fate in the darkness
. One of the first lifeboats launched held 12
passengers and a dog. Titanic’s lifeboats could carry 65 people, but on average
held only 38. Almost 400 more lives could have been saved if the lifeboats had
been filled to capacity.
5. FALSE. During the initial evacuation when no women or children remained at a
lifeboat station, some seats were offered to men. In one documented case, a
female passenger offered a shawl to a nearby crewman wearing only an
undershirt. Another passenger in that boat, upset by the loss of her husband,
later complained bitterly to reporters about the presence of men in any Titanic
lifeboat. Subsequent reporting caused the “men-in-disguise” stories to take on a
life of their own.
6. FALSE. While it is true there were no binoculars in the crow’s nest the night of
the accident, watchmen didn’t normally use them to scan the horizon. They’d use
binoculars only to check on something that appeared unusual to the naked eye.
Icebergs are normally detected at night by observing the white spray of waves
crashing against the base, but there was no such wave action the evening of April
14th.
7. FALSE. Many of the Ship’s internal doors and gates were routinely locked to
keep the different classes of passengers from mixing. During the evacuation,
stewards unlocked these passageways so second and third class passengers could
move to the upper decks. In the confusion, it is possible some gates may have
been missed.
8. FALSE. Ismay suffered a lot of bad publicity after the disaster because he
accepted a lifeboat seat when one was offered. He was criticized in the media,
questioned harshly at official hearings, and pressured by White Star to retire
shortly after the sinking. His professional reputation never recovered and he
lived quietly in Ireland until dying of natural causes in 1937.
9. TRUE. Smith, White Star’s highest paid officer, was a celebrity among wealthy
passengers who made frequent ocean voyages. Known as the “Millionaires’
Captain”, Smith was selected for the maiden voyage in part as an honor because
he planned to retire after Titanic returned to Southampton. Smith honored
maritime custom by going down with his ship.
10. FALSE. Lifeboat supervisors were issued guns and, on several occasions, did fire
shots into the air to control panic but most historians agree no passengers were
shot. Murdoch didn’t survive the sinking and some eyewitnesses suggest he may
have taken his own life privately before the ship broke apart. Officially, his fate
remains a mystery.
 
Ok, I am mixed on the movie: I will say I cry at every ship disaster and even cry when I hear the Edmund Fitzerald song.

I do, too!

To me, the pivot point was when she WAS in the lifeboat and they were lowering it down. She decided to jump out of it and because of it, he had himself and her to save/worry about. If she hadn't jumped out of the boat and the rest of the events remained the same, she would have been safe in a lifeboat and he would have had the door/driftwood and most likely, remained alive. And they could have lived happily ever after. That one single event irks me to no end.

Huh. I never thought about that before! Okay, now I'm irked! :goodvibes

ISome myths about the Titanic

Interesting stuff!

I was truly troubled by: 3class steerage mother with red hair was trying to get her kids to go to sleep knowing dang well they would be woken up by the frigid water as the ship sank.

I never really had an urge to see this movie, but I caught it for the first time when it was on television. It was New Year's Eve, and I had a 20-month old and a newborn, so I was up late and watched it alone. (Yeah, I'm a party animal!) This scene, along with the one where the mother is in the water, frozen to death with the frozen baby in her arms, nearly made me go into post-partum hysterics. I've never watched the movie after that.
 
Ok, I am mixed on the movie: I will say I cry at every ship disaster and even cry when I hear the Edmund Fitzerald song.

As for the movie: Billy Zane-gracious whew. Oh, ok, back to the subject. if I were Rose: When the Carpathia picked them up and she sees Cal- I would have made sure he saw me near the side of the ship holding the necklace and let that puppy drop:thumbsup2

What's funny is that they were like Women and children, but Bruce Izmae was able to get on, I'm just sayin.

Rose jumping off the lifeboat, maybe they were trying to recreate the story of Isodor Strauss, who's wife refused to get in the lifeboat and died with him on the Titanic for real. But that door looked big enough for them both, and there was other things floating around.

I was truly troubled by: 3class steerage mother with red hair was trying to get her kids to go to sleep knowing dang well they would be woken up by the frigid water as the ship sank.

Bruce Ismay was head of the White Star Line and got a lot of flack from people, including a congressional committee investigating the sinking, for saving himself.
 
I never really had an urge to see this movie, but I caught it for the first time when it was on television. It was New Year's Eve, and I had a 20-month old and a newborn, so I was up late and watched it alone. (Yeah, I'm a party animal!) This scene, along with the one where the mother is in the water, frozen to death with the frozen baby in her arms, nearly made me go into post-partum hysterics. I've never watched the movie after that.
I can totally relate! It was the first movie I saw after my daughter was born, and I thought I was going to have to leave the theater, because I was crying so hard. You know, that serious, sobbing, ugly cry, where you have to gasp for air...?

It is, however, my most favorite movie of all time. Maybe it's silly, and doesn't make much sense at times, but I really don't care. I love it! And, even though I've seen it more times than I can count, I still cry every time.:laughing:

As far as the necklace, I would have given it to my granddaughter, but I totally understand why she threw it.
 
I can understand her motive, but when I first saw the movie, the only thing I could think of was how much that could help her family!
 
Titanic is my absolute favorite movie of all time. I was nine when it came out and I remember being engrossed by the whole thing. I loved and still do love Leonardo, I loved the story, and I loved the ship and its fate.

Rose never owed that necklace to anyone. I think what she did was best for her.

I have come to realize that Jack had to die to make the movie hit home. The viewer connected to Rose's loss. Although those two characters were not real, there were thousands of other people who felt a loss that night. The way James Cameron drew people in and made them feel the loss is what makes the movie so special for me.
 
I can understand her motive, but when I first saw the movie, the only thing I could think of was how much that could help her family!

Rose detested that type of life. She wanted to live a normal life without the help of money. Why would she want to have her family supported by something she despised? She didn't care about the money. She just wanted to live her life; she did that by doing all that she and Jack planned to do. She did it without being rich but she was happy.
 
AND hated the scene where the necklace gets thrown over!!! The silly twit should have cashed it in and used the proceeds to endow an art chair at a university in her lover's name!! Sheesh....talk about no imagination:confused3

ITA. I also hated how she went on to marry and have kids yet in the last scene she only sees Jack (is that LD's name in the movie?) in "heaven." Maybe all of the other family were still alive-haha.
 
I'm sorry - I only remember the drawing scene (remember that vividly :lmao:) and the scene in the car with the steamy windows. Was there a necklace? ;)
 


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