If you stay off-site, does it really provide a huge savings?

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I'm running the numbers every which way for our next trip - and I'm not finding it to be as good of a deal as I'd hoped.

We're a family of five (2 adults, three kids)...

I see where staying off-site is a savings on the hotel part of the trip... But food? It seems if we stay off-site that we'll spend just as much on food - but we'll have to seek it out and deal with it.

How do you handle food if you stay off-site? Do you cook your own meals? Eat at off-site restaurants? A combination? Do you leave the parks frequently?

I'm finding the off-site type planning to be confusing :confused3

The savings appeals to me, but it also seems like a big hassle. Thoughts? Ideas? Did you spend as much on food as if you just bought the dining plan?

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When I stayed offsite, I probably spent less on food. Most recently, I stayed offsite in August 2006. I had a continental breakfast at the hotel. I rode their free shuttle service to/from Disney and Universal (I didn't bother renting a car). I had lunch at the parks, generally a CS, and generally around 2 or 3 pm. The parks closed [relatively] early that time of year, so we had dinner back at the hotel - there were about 4 or 5 chain restaurants and fast food places within walking distance, plus a grocery store that had a salad bar and deli (I got a salad there a few nights on vacation b/c I tens not to eat as many fruits/veggies during the day. The vacationers were my mom, sister and myself, ages 30 and up. No kids.

I know a lot of people rent condos for the week and cook food there for dinners and breakfasts. People also get deals for hotels on HotWire and Priceline. I have never done that persoanally so I do not know how they work exactly, or which hotels in Orlando area seem to be ones you get more often.

Sounds like you have A LOT of time to plan and do your research.
 
Our experience (over many, many years) has always been that off-site was significantly cheaper. Sometimes we leave during the middle of the day, and sometimes we don't.

I'm a bargain shopper and get reduced rate condos or houses. Also, we are much more comfortable with more room (and bathrooms).

We combine eating at "home" and offsite restaurants (breakfast alone saves a lot). While we do eat at Disney some, it's generally at the counter service places.

Also, while we don't really buy souvenirs, if I'm going to buy anything, Wal-Mart or the Disnery outlets are a lot cheaper than the stuff onsite.
 
I know I'm planning really early ;) I wanted to go back next summer, but it isn't going to be in the budget for two years...

I'm just trying to decide if renting a condo (Windsor Hills) or staying off-site and doing our own meals is what we want - or if we want to spend more and stay on-site and have the convenience...

I might (LOL) be overthinking the food part... :rolleyes1
 

Offsite is definately less for us. There are 6 of us, which requires a suite or 2 rooms onsite. Instead we get a 4 bedroom villa with private pool and hot tub for $110 a night.

We ate a big breakfast in the villa before leaving every morning. Sometimes we ate lunch in the parks before we left for a nap, sometimes we'd go back to the villa, eat a quick lunch, take a nap and head back to the parks for dinner. Some days we ate lunch and dinner both in the parks. We took an off day to spend in the pool, and we ate all 3 meals in the villa. We did quick things like sandwiches, grilled chicken one night for dinner and kept the extras for grilled chicken salads for lunch the next day so that I wouldn't have to cook much.

When we ran the numbers for the dining plan compared to what we spent on groceries and our in-park meals, plus a couple of dinners out with friends who were in WDW the same time we were, we still saved quite a bit of money than if we would have stayed onsite. This is why we're doing offsite again. We can stay for 10 days offsite as opposed to 5-6 onsite.
 
I visit during Peak season.

I can reliably get a 2-3BR unit with full kitchen for about the price of a Value room. Add in the required rental car and parking, and you're less than a Moderate (quite a bit less).

Our dining habits are about the same whether we are offsite or on. Breakfast in the unit. Most meals in the parks (lunch before a break, dinner when returning). A few meals are out of the parks, but often at a resort ('Ohana, character meal, etc.) I find offsite to be a little cheaper. For instance, if you decide you're tired and would rather hang out than return to the park that night, at OKW that often means "let's go to Olivia's for dinner", offsite it's "let's call Giordano's and get some pizza delivered."
 
I have only been to the Orlando area once. We stayed off-site at a place called the Crestwood Suites. It was rather isolated so I would suggest you drive if you are going to stay there. My husband and I got around on the public bus system. However, it was so confusing that it took us a couple of days to learn the routes. It was so time-consuming that we have decided that we will stay on Disney property if we get the second trip we are currently saving for.

If you have the patience to deal with public transit in a city as car-oriented as Orlando is or will have access to a car, the Crestwood Suites are cheaper to rent and have cooking facilities. There is also a shopping center with a Wal-Mart supermarket within a couple of miles. However, it means walking over an overpass wth no safe place for pedestrians so you either call a cab or take your life in your hands if you don't have a car.

The rooms were not fancy there, but they did have laundry facilities and telephones. I got the impression that many of the people staying there lived there. It was in a rather industrial area so we were probably living with the employees of these warehouses.

My husband just said to tell you to stay on International Drive if you are going to stay off property.
 
I visit during Peak season.

This seems to be the ticket.

If we go during value season - the numbers aren't all that substantially different - but if we go during summer or peak season - off-site is much, much better on the wallet.

Thanks for all of the input, everyone... So much to decide! (Good thing I have two years! :rotfl: :lmao: :thumbsup2 )
 
Truth be told, I don't stay offsite so much to save money. We could stay in a Value room, skip the car, and spend less.

I do it for the extra room and amenities. I really like having private sleeping spaces for kids and adults. I really like having a full kitchen. I really like having in-unit washer/dryer. I could get all that at DVC, of course, but it would cost a lot more.

I don't mind driving, and usually do onsite anyway, so that's more or less a wash. I do miss the MK bus offsite, and the boat from OKW to DTD is really really pleasant. But, driving is okay.
 
I'm finding the off-site type planning to be confusing :confused3

The thing about offsite dining is you don't have to plan! You can decide on a restaurant on a spur of the moment basis. If you compare offsite prices to Disney prices, off site dining is SIFGNIFICANTLY better for the same or better quality food. As for accommodations, if you compare a WDW Value resort to off site lodging, WDW wins. If you compare apples to apples - a 2 BR timeshare to WDW DVC level offsite wins again by a huge margin.
 
Truth be told, I don't stay offsite so much to save money. We could stay in a Value room, skip the car, and spend less.

I do it for the extra room and amenities. I really like having private sleeping spaces for kids and adults. I really like having a full kitchen. I really like having in-unit washer/dryer. I could get all that at DVC, of course, but it would cost a lot more.

I don't mind driving, and usually do onsite anyway, so that's more or less a wash. I do miss the MK bus offsite, and the boat from OKW to DTD is really really pleasant. But, driving is okay.


I am with you on that. Love my family but could NEVER EVER imagine us all in one room for a week. My DH likes to stay up late and watch tv. Then I can't sleep. I want to go to sleep because I know we have to get up earlier and I don't want to be tired. He snores and that keeps me up. My DH rarely eats except for supper. OTOH, the kids need to eat or they will be begging for snacks all day. This way, the kids can get up and eat breakfast while dad sleeps in a bit. There is more than one bathroom so more than one person can get ready in the am. There were always 5 of us, so that would mean 2 rooms at Disney and even more $$
Having a fridge/freezer and not having to pay $15 a night or whatever they want. We can freeze water bottles for the park days and have cold soda/beer/milk whenever we want it, and we don't have to go to a food court to get it. I don't have to mess with a cooler.
We do have the added expense of a car, but generally, I think rentals in Orlando are pretty reasonable, and the freedom it gives you to go where you want to go is worth it to me. I would not want to be a slave to the Disney transportation sysytem. Heaven forbid you want to go to SW or US. If you want McDonalds on the way home, you can stop there or any other chain restaurant that you want.
Our food was generally: breakfast in the condo. I tried to get them to eat some protein/fat so they would not be hungry before we even got to the park. We always packed sandwiches and drinks to take in with us(do they still allow that?), and maybe bought a few special treats. Dinner on the way home was usually fast food because we were tired. If we did not go to the park that day, we would do a nicer restaurant or maybe make frozen pizza.
Honestly, I don't think I would want to mess with the dining at Disney. Having to make reservations and maybe not being hungry when that time came. Some people want to eat at one place and others want something different. Waiting in line for food when we could be in line for a ride. I just don't want my whole vacation to be about "where are we eating and what time, etc"

So, yes it saves $$ for us, but it is more than that. Maybe if it was just me and one other person, it would be ok, but it does not work for us now.
 
For us it is breakfast in the rental home. Drinks purchased at publix and we take them to the park. That for us is a large savings. When we do eat at TS we eat luch and it is again cheaper. We grill at night most times. Have snacks and drinks in the house by the pool. We all have our own beds and no one sleeps on pull outs or in a full size bed. I do not think that would go over to well with any one. There are restrooms so we are not waiting in line. It just is a better deal then any hotel.
 
I'm running the numbers every which way for our next trip - and I'm not finding it to be as good of a deal as I'd hoped.

We're a family of five (2 adults, three kids)...

I see where staying off-site is a savings on the hotel part of the trip... But food? It seems if we stay off-site that we'll spend just as much on food - but we'll have to seek it out and deal with it.

How do you handle food if you stay off-site? Do you cook your own meals? Eat at off-site restaurants? A combination? Do you leave the parks frequently?

I'm finding the off-site type planning to be confusing :confused3

The savings appeals to me, but it also seems like a big hassle. Thoughts? Ideas? Did you spend as much on food as if you just bought the dining plan?

:confused3

we definitely save money by staying offsite. :)

As a family of 5, I like having more room ... a hotel room with my 3 kids is not much fun. I have a teenager, pre-teen, and kindergartener. When they were younger, and the baby really was a baby, hotel rooms weren't bad. But now that everyone uses the big potty and sleeps in their own bed, it's nice to have the space ;)

For starters, I book condos through www.afvclub.com or www.govarm.com. I'm also looking at the $199/week deal at Skyauction. I won't pay a lot of $$ for lodging. I also research & choose resorts within close proximity to WDW (see my signature for places we've stayed) so we have the option of taking a midday break if we choose. We've found that our travel time is often LESS when we stay offsite than when we rely on the Disney buses.

I feel like we save money when we're offsite, but not only that, I feel like we're eating better. I don't do a lot of cooking, really ... but to have a fridge to keep fresh fruit and veggies to snack on is great :) Here's what we typically do:
breakast (in the condo): some mornings I'll do a quick egg scramble & toast, french toast, toaster waffles, etc. while everyone else is getting ready. other days the kids will eat a bowl of cereal or grab a granola bar on the way out the door to the parks. My kids will usually eat a banana or other fruit in the morning, too.

lunch: counter service in the parks, usually around 11am.

- - midday break at resort - -

After we swim, nap, or whatever ... we're usually hungry. LOL. We have chips & salsa, cheese & crackers, or other heavier snacks before going back to the parks. The park we're going to sort of dictates how much we're going to eat. If it's Epcot, it's a light snack, because we know we'll be snacking our way around the WS. If it's MGM, we eat more and plan on popcorn and Mickey bars while seeing Fantasmic.

Another example: we stayed at Cypress Pointe in April. We disovered almost immediately how close it was to Pizzeria Uno. Twice during the week, we called ahead and picked up pizza on the way back to the condo for a meal. Cost less than $30 for a family of five, roughly the same cost as eating a CS meal, was more filling, and tasted better.

We rarely, if ever, eat at the WDW table service meals. For the money that costs, I can buy a lot of food somewhere else.

I use my weekly grocery budget (that I wouldn't be using at home since I'm on vacation ;) ) to do my food shopping.
 
This If we go during value season - the numbers aren't all that substantially different - but if we go during summer or peak season - off-site is much, much better on the wallet.


We go during value season and it's still much cheaper to stay offsite.
 
Good post. We're using AFVC for the first time this November. How do you like it? For those prices I can guarantee we'll stay again!

honestly? I liked it better when a week was $249 and we didn't pay tax. But that's been more than a couple of years ago. LOL.

With that said, I think it's still a very good value and an excellent way to book a trip! I've used AFVC 5 times - three times for weekly rentals, and twice for nightly rentals. I've used GovArm once. Both were very simple and straightforward to use.
 
How do you handle food if you stay off-site? Do you cook your own meals? Eat at off-site restaurants? A combination? Do you leave the parks frequently?

We do breakfast in our resort room (which they call a villa)that has a full kitchen. We keep it simple...Aunt Jemima's french toast, dry cereal, eggs, turkey bacon, milk, orange juice and sometimes yogurt. We also buy fruit because my DH has to have a bowl of fresh fruit laying around.

For lunch and dinner we go out because it's more convenient to eat out and we usually stay on Rt. 192 and there are lots of restaurants and fast food places that it would be impossible not to have a place to eat.

The bottom line is that we spend less money on food offsite than we do onsite. We do no more than two TS meals and we do eat lunch and major snacks/water at the parks if we're there. I haven't gotten this years figures together yet, but I'm working on it.

And we don't leave the parks. We stay all day. My DS takes her family back to their offsite resort for naps, but we don't do it.
 
I really appreciate all these responses!

Thank you so much!

We are leaning towards staying off-site - and going for longer :cool1: :thumbsup2

I think the reason my numbers weren't working is that I was way overestimating on food...

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We save a LOT staying off site.

We are a family of 5, so that rules out a standard room at Disney already.

Staying in a condo allows a full kitchen for food, leftovers, etc....

Our last trip was around $1500.

SkyAuction Condo- $179/week
Disney passes (5 hoppers and 4 vouchers to Quest or Water Parks) $750
Gas- $300
Food- $150 in condo
$300 eating in parks and out (but used Disney rewards for that)

Parking- $50
Dog Sitter- $80

Dawn
 











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