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Art Vandalay said:
And that would be why it's automatically your fault if you hit someone in the rear? :confused3 Don't need to explain yourself when you hit the brakes. If someone hits you in the rear when you brake, it's their fault. Period.

Maybe in your state, but in others (including mine) braking in reaction to tailgating is also reckless driving.
 
And in a lot of states it is not always 100% the fault of the person who hits you, in some states it is but not in all.
 
Hannathy said:
And in a lot of states it is not always 100% the fault of the person who hits you, in some states it is but not in all.
That's just a scam set up by big insurance companies to raise everyone's rates when there's an accident. My brother was hit from behind while stopped at a stop sign and he was partially at fault according to his insurance.
 
Duckfan-in-Chicago said:
That's just a scam set up by big insurance companies to raise everyone's rates when there's an accident. My brother was hit from behind while stopped at a stop sign and he was partially at fault according to his insurance.

Not true.

I know about the law in my state because of a road rage murder in my state.

A person thought it was a good idea to brake in response to a tailgater and they ended up getting shot. No way I think they deserved to get shot, but IMO it is just as bad as tailgating, and the news story included reminders that it is reckless driving to brake in reponse to tailgating.
 

My cousin hit a tree on the side of the road, but it wasn't his fault. He blew the horn.
 
cardaway said:
Not true.

I know about the law in my state because of a road rage murder in my state.

A person thought it was a good idea to brake in response to a tailgater and they ended up getting shot. No way I think they deserved to get shot, but IMO it is just as bad as tailgating, and the news story included reminders that it is reckless driving to brake in reponse to tailgating.
Actually true.

How was my brother putting anyone at risk being at a full and complete stop at a stop sign? Let's talk about the example that I suggested when you say not true instead of going off on tangents which seems to be your style.

At first you say that the person who put the brakes on is the only one who is driving dangerously, then your argument switches to that person is breaking the law also. The OP said she was wrong in the OP. Admit the tailgater is wrong, and I think we can all move on to more important matters.
 
You can see where I live and you probably have heard about the "special talents" of Boston drivers. I assure you it is worse than you can possibly know! People drive like maniacs around here.

Here is my road rage story for the week. DH and I were driving on a four-lane road that has a 30 MPH limit. We were in the right lane, signal on to turn right off onto another street. A car came flying up behind us, probably going about 60 MPH, laid on his horn, stopped his car in the road, and started shouting and waving his hands all over the place, all because we had the gall to make a turn off the main road onto a side street. He actually pulled his car up so that we could see him shouting etc. in our rearview as we drove away. Bizarre. And no, we were not taking forever to make the turn, he was just driving too fast.

Honestly, the way people drive around here kept us from upgrading our car for many years. We used to drive an old car we nicknamed "jalopy" because we thought people might assume we had no insurance (not true) and so would not willfully drive into the side of our vehicle as people seem so wont to do around here.
 
Duckfan-in-Chicago said:
At first you say that the person who put the brakes on is the only one who is driving dangerously, then your argument switches to that person is breaking the law also.

Actually I said "possibly the only one" since I wasn't there.

It's the law because it's dangerous.
 
How does a person find out the driving laws for their state? I figured it would be linked on the DMV/MVA site, but I couldn't find what I was looking for when I looked yesterday.

I ask because I read on the DIS that if a person waves another driver to turn in front of them and then someone hits that driver that the person doing the waving can be held liable and my DH told be that was ridiculous and where did I hear that. I didn't want to tell him that I read it awhile back on the DIS... :rolleyes2 I told my DH that he should just believe it until he disproves it. But I'm drawing a blank as to how to find that information.
 
cardaway said:
It's the law because it's dangerous.
Uhm I am pretty sure speeding up to ones bumper and tailgating is as well. Thus the "reckless driving". You can have your license suspended for that in PA.
 
L107ANGEL said:
Uhm I am pretty sure speeding up to ones bumper and tailgating is as well. Thus the "reckless driving". You can have your license suspended for that in PA.

Heresy!! The braker must be flogged! 30 lashes with a wet noodle!
 
L107ANGEL said:
Uhm I am pretty sure speeding up to ones bumper and tailgating is as well. Thus the "reckless driving". You can have your license suspended for that in PA.

Yes, and so is braking on tailgaters. Same defintion... same penalty (at least here).

I can't believe I responded to a clique thread. :headache:
 
cardaway said:
Yes, and so is braking on tailgaters.

I can't believe I screwed up and responeded to clique thread. :headache:

Nah, you screwed up by saying that the person braking is probably the only one endangering anyone. It's fairly obvious that's not the case.
 
cardaway said:
Yes, and so is braking on tailgaters.

I can't believe I screwed up and responeded to clique thread. :headache:

I think most people "get" that braking on tailgaters is just as dangerous as tailgating....seriously, it is common sense. :)
 
cardaway said:
Yes, and so is braking on tailgaters. Same defintion... same penalty (at least here).

I can't believe I screwed up and responeded to clique thread. :headache:
Is that what you meant? I guess you are saying because Silly and I are friends that have met, talk on the phone and meeting for a weekend trip that was geared towards us.
Let me clue you in on something, I do have a mind of my own and can form my own opinions. I happen to have one here sunshine!
 
Tigger&Belle said:
How does a person find out the driving laws for their state?

Also consider that some things aren't necessarily LAW but how a lawyer interprets things for a judge/jury.

I once had an attorney who told me that I *should* slow down or stop at a green light to make sure there were no cars running the red lights. I told him he was crazy and I found another lawyer...but I believe his point was that there is a level of responsibility each driver has and even without a specific law, a person can be held liable if someone determines they were irresponsible.
 
No kidding it's common sense that slamming the brakes on a tailgater is dangerous. Who ever said anyone slammed the brakes??
 
SillyMe said:
No kidding it's common sense that slamming the brakes on a tailgater is dangerous. Who ever said anyone slammed the brakes??

I've never heard the term "brake check" before except in a situation where someone IS slamming the brakes, so how would I know whether it's slamming the brakes or not? Every once in a while to be funny, DH would drive down an empty street and say, "brake check!" and pump the brakes so the car would come to a halt (not as bad as it sounds, he was always driving slow). My dad used to do the same thing. I associate "brake check" with a sudden stop.

The experiences I've had with people doing it while I was in the car, they slammed the brakes enough that they could have been hit if the person tailing hadn't been paying attention.
 


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