Idea for discussion: Future of restriction of guests in parks

[sethschroeder]

Could we see permanently the restriction to AP Guests and on site guests (possibly extension to the good neighbor hotels)?

I know its going to be a while before things open up but even after COVID19 has been "taken care of" I have to think there is going to be a call to reduce crowded situations especially when it comes to mixing various people from all across the world.

Could we see a requirement to buy park tickets with hotel rooms and the elimination of park tickets sold to day guests.

What percentage of guests are from offsite vs onsite hotels?

 

[RamblingMad]

If Disney opens with a limited capacity, I can see it open the parks to a restricted group. That group should be the one, where Disney expects to make the most money per guests. They're going to have to data mine their data to figure out the demographics for this group.

And if Disney restricts the number of people going into its parks, I can also imagine that not all of the Disney resort hotels would open.

I can also see them limiting entry to only guests staying on property and existing annual pass holders. They can stop selling new annual passes

 

[TwoMisfits]

If Disney opens with a limited capacity, I can see it open the parks to a restricted group. That group should be the one, where Disney expects to make the most money per guests. They're going to have to data mine their data to figure out the demographics for this group.

And if Disney restricts the number of people going into its parks, I can also imagine that not all of the Disney resort hotels would open.

I can also see them limiting entry to only guests staying on property and existing annual pass holders. They can stop selling new annual passes

Yeah, if you think they are ever gonna restrict guests, APs would be the 1st to go. They have the most uncertainty on when and how often guests will show up.

The 2nd thing would be no more walk up tickets, and all tickets dated and prebought.

 

[RamblingMad]

Yeah, if you think they are ever gonna restrict guests, APs would be the 1st to go. They have the most uncertainty on when and how often guests will show up.

The 2nd thing would be no more walk up tickets, and all tickets dated and prebought.

What I don't get is how the free dining offer is going to be implemented for those that canceled and rebooked.

 

[disneysteve]

Could we see a requirement to buy park tickets with hotel rooms and the elimination of park tickets sold to day guests.

Never. The vast majority of guests stay offsite. Disney could never cut off that business.

 

[Jrb1979]

What I don't get is how the free dining offer is going to be implemented for those that canceled and rebooked.

Probably going to have rebook again.

 

[RamblingMad]

Probably going to have rebook again.

If Pete is right about limited dining options, then free dining might be underwhelming. But since you have to eat something in the park, it's better than paying for it.

 

[sethschroeder]

Never. The vast majority of guests stay offsite. Disney could never cut off that business.

Which is my point. If they have to reduce crowds dramatically moving forward.

What percentage is onsite and AP vs off-site day guests? Are we saying 90%?

 

[disneysteve]

Which is my point. If they have to reduce crowds dramatically moving forward.

What percentage is onsite and AP vs off-site day guests? Are we saying 90%?

If they have to close out offsite guests for any period of time other than maybe when they first reopen, the ripple effect to the local economy will be catastrophic.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Which is my point. If they have to reduce crowds dramatically moving forward.

What percentage is onsite and AP vs off-site day guests? Are we saying 90%?

On site is less than 50%

I expect pretty severe restrictions when it first opens (if it is any time soon) but won't keep off site guests out for long

 

[sethschroeder]

If they have to close out offsite guests for any period of time other than maybe when they first reopen, the ripple effect to the local economy will be catastrophic.

It's not that they have to. It's that in the future large crowds are very likely to not be tolerated even after covid19 subsides.

There has been talks of this sort of society shift for roughly a decade with possibly a disease being the primary driver which seems to be happening.

You also have to think Disney will want policies in place to insulate againat anything in the future.

Doubling ticket prices? I could see that with a counteracting reduction in max capacity. That reduction in crowds could allow for more digital based lines. Disney could also reduce park hours possibly then as people get through things quicker helping to reduce staffing costs.

Who knows though the only thing I know is Disney will never be the same.