I wish DVC would build more resorts not connected to the theme parks.

First step: if you are serious, join the Timeshare User’s Group (tugbbs.com). it’s the disboards of the timeshare universe, and that’s the place to learn.
I have been interested for a while in Marriot, because they have a very nice resort near DLP and I was looking to buy resale there. I've joined TUG but I've been a bit overwhelmed by the sheer amount of information there. It is not easy to jump in as a complete newbie, at least not at the time. I wasn't probably motivated enough, I guess. But when joining DISboard to learn about DVC I fond the introductory guides which helped a lot, I haven't found an equivalent on TUG. Which probably is just a convoluted way to thanks the moderators here in organizing the info for newcomers :)
 
I would love a Bermuda DVC resort. Like Aulani east with appropriate theming. But with the way Aulani has sold (not sold) I doubt we would ever see one.
 
First step: if you are serious, join the Timeshare User’s Group (tugbbs.com). it’s the disboards of the timeshare universe, and that’s the place to learn.

I think a big source of the negativity lies in the intersection between how timeshare is usually sold and purchased. Some sales agents stretch the truth (or outright lie) but most of them are good at telling a buyer just enough to be factually correct, but in a way that allows the buyer to fill in the gaps in ways that create unrealistic expectations. For their part, the buyer wants to make this purchase. It is an aspirational purchase that both raises the quality of their vacation lodging and represents an investment in family time and togetherness. And that fuels the buyer’s willing participation in filling in those gaps.

But, if you go in with your eyes wide open—and particularly if you are buying resale and saving real money—then those things aren’t really issues. At their core, other timeshares are just like DVC (unsurprising, because DVC is just a timeshare): you buy rights to reserve some lodging on a recurring basis, those rights are use-them-or-lose-them in some form, and you agree to pay your share of the ongoing operating and upkeep costs of that lodging and the reservation system, etc.

As for what to recommend: The first question is where do you want to go? If you have one destination that you want to return to over and over again, it makes sense to buy a fixed or floating week at that destination.

But in your case it sounds like you want to go to a variety of places. In that case, I think a points-based system is probably a better fit. But, points-based systems have different strengths and weaknesses in terms of location. So, I think it still makes sense to narrow down based on who has resorts in places you like, and then if there is more than one candidate to decide based on the quality/price tradeoff you want.

The main players are Marriott, Hilton, Wyndham, and WorldMark. You might also include Bluegreen in that set. Those are in rough order of quality/price, from higher to lower, but very rough.

Marriott has a large number of locations, including some international locations. Resorts are uniformly nice, but their ongoing costs are typically on the high end. It is not cheap to buy in, even resale, because the underlying properties have value and Marriott charges a fee to “wash” resale points. Marriott acquired and is folding in Starwood/Sheraton.

Hilton has a more targeted set of locations: the tend to build over and over in the same set of places (Orlando, Vegas, Oahu, Big Island) but have scattered locations elsewhere. They recently acquired Diamond and plan to fold them in in some way but it’s not clear how much that will cost and whether resale owners can participate. Resorts have a quality level comparable to Marriott in most cases, maybe just a small step down in others, and costs are lower both to buy and to own.

Wyndham is focused East of the Mississippi, Kauai, and the Big Island, but also has a healthy set of locations in the western US. Resort quality is more variable, usually reflecting the age of the resort. The better resorts can hold their own most anywhere, but not all of them are like that. They are significantly less expensive to buy on the resale market (think at most a dime on the dollar), and somewhat less expensive to own.

WorldMark is the “sibling” of Wyndham; they are separate systems, but both owned by the same developer. WorldMark focuses West of the Mississippi, but has some resorts in the East and on Hawaii. WorldMark is a little less expensive overall to own than Wyndham, and the resorts are mostly comparable if maybe just a smidge down the quality level. They are still very nice.

I can’t convince myself to consider Bluegreen; their resorts seem to be in less interesting places on average, the units aren’t as well configured or appointed, but they aren’t different enough in price to make up for those things.

This is a great response! We have been WorldMark owners for 15 years and have loved it. It is similar to DVC in that it is a points system, but there is no home resort, so you can book anywhere once the window of 13 months opens (the downside of this is that some properties are very hard to get into). We are on the West Coast, so it is definitely an easier to use product over here (as DVC is easier to use on the East Coast), but we have been oodles of places with WorldMark: Disneyland (a lot!), Yellowstone, Las Vegas, San Francisco, Seattle, Maui, Victoria, San Diego, and countless drivable trips locally to the Oregon Coast and Central Oregon (which were wonderful during the pandemic). We have also used it to trade (via RCI or Interval) into Marriotts and DVC, as well as Washington DC and Manhattan. Spoiler alert- it was way cheaper for us to stay at DVC using WorldMark points on a trade than it is for a DVC member to stay using their own points. Real world example: Staying at SSR in the summer in a one-bedroom is 206 points. 206 x $7.33 pp SSR dues = $1509.98. WM dues for the same week and room are $698.20 +$106 housekeeping + $189 exchange fee= $993.20. (I believe there may also be a resort fee charged by Disney, but you get the point.)

Definitely join TUG to learn more. I was recently wavering between buying a Marriott timeshare in Hawaii or Aulani or both. We are going with Aulani for now, but might revisit the Marriott idea after we are retired and can stay longer at each visit and do both. I definitely recommend buying resale if buying any of those products. The people I hear who are unhappy with WorldMark are the ones who paid full price from the developer and who didn't fully research what they were buying or how to use it. Those of us who bought it resale are overall pretty content. The nice thing is that WorldMark is a pretty reasonable "trader" through RCI and Interval, but the dues are way less than a DVC trade, so it is a better option for staying in other resorts this way.

My advice is that if you are interested in going new places, learn about these other timeshare products (I'd stick to these "big name" companies and not the smaller ones) and buy a resale contract to use as a trader through RCI or II. There are lots of places to see out there!
 
The people I hear who are unhappy with WorldMark are the ones who paid full price from the developer and who didn't fully research what they were buying or how to use it. Those of us who bought it resale are overall pretty content. The nice thing is that WorldMark is a pretty reasonable "trader" through RCI and Interval, but the dues are way less than a DVC trade, so it is a better option for staying in other resorts this way.

My advice is that if you are interested in going new places, learn about these other timeshare products (I'd stick to these "big name" companies and not the smaller ones) and buy a resale contract to use as a trader through RCI or II. There are lots of places to see out there!
This is an interesting tension I've been thinking about. I would only buy resale, also, but somebody's got to buy from the developer or there would be no resale. The informed buyer saves a lot, but basically needs the uninformed buyer to be the first sucker lol
 

Disney had plans for Colorado ski country and for NYC. Both were scrapped. The Colorado property is now a Hyatt timeshare. I don’t see DVC doing much offsite, but i do think offsite in Florida is possible. I can totally see DVC buying a rundown beach resort in Florida.

Hyatt is a much smaller, more expensive, I would argue nicer system. I seriously considered Hyatt, but decided against it because of the general timeshare downsides. I wouldn’t think about any of these systems until renting into them. This is easy to do on redweek. Some are incredibly cheap on redweek, and TUGS has a last minute rentals board that is full of amazing deals. If I were flexible enough to do those, maybe I’d never buy in to anything.
 
I have been interested for a while in Marriot, because they have a very nice resort near DLP and I was looking to buy resale there. I've joined TUG but I've been a bit overwhelmed by the sheer amount of information there. It is not easy to jump in as a complete newbie, at least not at the time.
Part of the problem is that Marriott is complicated. If it’s any consolation I don’t really understand all the options there either!
 
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@Bjaiken77 may have been referring to the proposed Disney/DVC Resort at National Harbor.

I never heard that was confirmed as a DVC project. Everything I had read/heard was it was ABD related.

It was ill conceived from the start anyway. It was PG County wooing Disney to try to get SOMEONE to give them a boost. Good for PG County, but not for Disney.
 
Part of the problem is that Marriott is complicated. If it’s any consolation I don’t really understand all the options there either!
Marriott is complicated because they have a weeks system and a points system, and I think you buy into one or the other. I was researching their weeks system on the TUG board quite a bit a few months ago when debating between buying Marriott Maui Ocean Club, Marriott Ko Olina, and Aulani, or a combination of those products. If you buy a week at one of those Marriotts, you can use it any time within the calendar year, and all seasons are equal. A week is a week, and doesn't cost extra at Christmas or Spring Break vs a slower time of year. You own at whatever resort you buy into. If you want to use a different Marriott, you have to trade your week into Interval International (which is owned by Marriott... RCI is owned by Wyndham). Then Marriott owners get a few week advantage where the listings are only available to other Marriott owners before being opened up to Interval in general. The "buy where you want to stay" idea is definitely strong in their system, because you may or may not ever get a trade at a different resort you may want.
 
As mentioned aboved, that is not DVC vision anymore.

That is why addon or new resorts are close or attached to a existing resort.
Cheaper and less risky . The existing resort gets a make over at the members expense. Win -Win for Disney and DVC .

The Aulani mistake will not happen again.
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I don't know if I'd classify Aulani as a "mistake" simply because they don't seem to have too much of an issue filling those "unsold" rooms on cash...
 
Marriott is complicated because they have a weeks system and a points system, and I think you buy into one or the other.

Didn't DVC used to have a guaranteed week system as well? I never figured out how all that worked out along with the traditional points system since as I understood it, you were exempt from point re-allocations but that would (in my mind) mix up the math horribly - at least of DVC's end.
 
Didn't DVC used to have a guaranteed week system as well? I never figured out how all that worked out along with the traditional points system since as I understood it, you were exempt from point re-allocations but that would (in my mind) mix up the math horribly - at least of DVC's end.
yes they still do. You have to buy a dedicated week and pick which week you want. You can still use it for points if you give up your guaranteed week for that year.
 
Didn't DVC used to have a guaranteed week system as well? I never figured out how all that worked out along with the traditional points system since as I understood it, you were exempt from point re-allocations but that would (in my mind) mix up the math horribly - at least of DVC's end.

I'm not a DVC expert (in the middle of buying our first contract), but I have seen "Guaranteed Week" resales in my search. Apparently these are great because you can either take your week or trade it for points and use it the regular way a different week or for a different resort. There are no downside, other than it costs more initially.
 



















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