I was not allowed to use rocking chairs at Baby Care Center

[Maggie'sMom]

Yesterday I was lurking on a forum for Disney CMs (not here on the DIS) and a CM was talking about being grossed out when a woman breastfed her baby on Jungle Cruise. So yes, the 'disgust' with nursing is alive and well at Disney and all over the rest of this country.

I have been following this thread since it started and have not posted yet. I just returned from WDW with my DS7months who is BFed. I did not use the BCC the entire time I was there though I knew they existed. It was much easier to feed DS in a show, on a ride, bus, monorail, or a bench. The BCC was just not convenient. I did get a few looks and comments from others. I even BFed on the Jungle Cruise.

Most BFing moms do not even use the BCC. It is nice they have it but I think the reason it is there is solely that when someone complains about a mom NIP Disney can say "Well we provide a BCC with a room for nursing mothers." They can't make moms use it but the provision of the nursing room is really there for them to counteract the complaints.

Maybe JEWLSVERN was the bfing mom the CM was complaining about.

FWIW, I nursed DD until she self-weaned at 21 months. By the time she was 3 weeks old, I was comfortable NIP and was able to do so discretely enough that many people didn't even realize that DD was nursing. My ex was the only person who said a negative word to me about NIP. I did get a nasty glare or two, but no one else said anything to me directly. My ex would protest and try to throw a blanket over us while I was nursing. Funny thing was that only drew more attention to what I was doing. But he had such a hangup over it, he once tried to force us to nurse under a blanket when we were in the car, parked in the very back of a large parking lot, without another car or person within 50 yards of us. I could have been completely topless and not a soul would have noticed.

 

[JEWLSVERN]

I very well could have been the mom he complained about as I just got back 2 weeks ago. I was also in the front of the boat closest to the CM. I did however nurse under a hooter hider very discreetly. I have no problems NIP but I always use a cover. No one could see anything.

Hey, DS was hungry and I shouldn't have had to miss the ride. He is not a patient boy.

I even nursed on the bus and the monorail and the only comment I got was from a mom who commented that she would be sure to not fall in my lap when she realized DS was under the blanket.

 

[annette20071]

It definitely says a lot that, after 27 pages of posts, not one bottlefeeding mother has said that they understand why a private room is needed for nursing and/ or they understand why the rule exists. They have said how unfair it is. How it is discriminating. How it is wrong and makes them feel bad. How Disney is just promoting bf. Etc. Not one has said they understand the need - even after numerous posts trying to explain the need. However, a few bf moms have said that yes a bottlefeeding mom should be allowed in if it was not full. Even more bf moms said that they understand the rational for the rules and why it is enforced but Disney should still make additional accomodations for bottlefeeding moms and listed various ways to do so. This really just says a lot about the whole situation.

 

[letsgoagainsoon]

It definitely says a lot that, after 27 pages of posts, not one bottlefeeding mother has said that they understand why a private room is needed for nursing and/ or they understand why the rule exists. They have said how unfair it is. How it is discriminating. How it is wrong and makes them feel bad. How Disney is just promoting bf. Etc. Not one has said they understand the need - even after numerous posts trying to explain the need. However, a few bf moms have said that yes a bottlefeeding mom should be allowed in if it was not full. Even more bf moms said that they understand the rational for the rules and why it is enforced but Disney should still make additional accomodations for bottlefeeding moms and listed various ways to do so. This really just says a lot about the whole situation.

What does it really say?

Personally, I don't have a problem with the room for nursing mothers. But, to say that you (not personally you) deserve it just because you breastfeed, I do disagree with that.

This is just going to go back and forth because everyone thinks their reasoning is right.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

What does it really say?

Personally, I don't have a problem with the room for nursing mothers. But, to say that you (not personally you) deserve it just because you breastfeed, I do disagree with that.

This is just going to go back and forth because everyone thinks their reasoning is right.

What is really sad is that other women can't seem to "get" that it might be more comfortable for some of their fellow women to have some privacy to potentially expose their breast.

I don't think the rooms should be exclusive, but I do believe that in a nicer world other gals would have some sort of understanding about that kind of thing.

 

[brymolmom]

It definitely says a lot that, after 27 pages of posts, not one bottlefeeding mother has said that they understand why a private room is needed for nursing and/ or they understand why the rule exists. They have said how unfair it is. How it is discriminating. How it is wrong and makes them feel bad. How Disney is just promoting bf. Etc. Not one has said they understand the need - even after numerous posts trying to explain the need. However, a few bf moms have said that yes a bottlefeeding mom should be allowed in if it was not full. Even more bf moms said that they understand the rational for the rules and why it is enforced but Disney should still make additional accomodations for bottlefeeding moms and listed various ways to do so. This really just says a lot about the whole situation.

I have been reading and not commenting much. I have heard lots of moms say that they understand the need for babies to feed in quiet, private places. I have heard moms (of various feeding styles) comment that they do understand the need for moms and babies to have this option.

I do not find it surpising that bottlefeeding moms have not explicitly said they understand/agree with only certain types of babies being afforded this option. I am guessing that the breastfeeding moms would be the same way if there was a bottlefeeding specific room that they were excluded from.

So what I think this "says" is that people get upset with not being treated equally.

 

[designermv]

I think women who use a breastpump *are* deserving of a private space in which to do so.

I don't think they deserve it because they're somehow better than bottlefeeding moms, but because no one should be forced to do something as awkward as pumping in a room that could be full of dads, kids, and grandparents. I also think breastfeeding moms who would are not comfortable with NIP deserve a small space where it is guaranteed that there will be no men.

Again, it's not a matter of deserving the space because they're better than bottlefeeding moms, but because they deserve PRIVACY due to having to get their ****s out.

I would encourage bottlefeeding moms who have children who won't eat unless they are in a small, dark room being rocked in a wooden rocker, to write to Disney and let them know your concerns.

 

[annette20071]

I do not find it surpising that bottlefeeding moms have not explicitly said they understand/agree with only certain types of babies being afforded this option. I am guessing that the breastfeeding moms would be the same way if there was a bottlefeeding specific room that they were excluded from.

So what I think this "says" is that people get upset with not being treated equally.

Yes, but Disney fulfills all kinds of needs. They have seperate entrances for disabled people at rides and shows. They prepare special meals for those with allergies. You can go to guest services and they will do various things to accommodate various needs that their customers have. Disney saw a need for a private place for women to nurse, so they fulfilled that need. I am all about equality but this is a little ridiculous. Should I get to go in the wheel chair entrance if I want to? I am not being treated equal if they don't let me. No, bf is obviously not a disability. However, our society does not see it as natural in public so there is a need for a private area. What would the need for a private bottlefeeding room be? I really wouldn't care if there was one, I just don't see the need that Disney should be fulfilling. It is not like the bf room is a secret club that excludes bottlefeeding moms - but that seems to be the impression that bottlefeeding moms have. Would it be beneficial to have a bottlefeeding room only because it is quieter? It isn't quieter if a bunch of mothers are talking in there or if siblings are in there. But, if you don't allow mothers to bring in the siblings then aren't you discriminating against her? It would be never ending. I guess I just don't see it.

 

[iheartdisney]

I think women who use a breastpump *are* deserving of a private space in which to do so.

I don't think they deserve it because they're somehow better than bottlefeeding moms, but because no one should be forced to do something as awkward as pumping in a room that could be full of dads, kids, and grandparents. I also think breastfeeding moms who would are not comfortable with NIP deserve a small space where it is guaranteed that there will be no men.

Again, it's not a matter of deserving the space because they're better than bottlefeeding moms, but because they deserve PRIVACY due to having to get their ****s out.

I would encourage bottlefeeding moms who have children who won't eat unless they are in a small, dark room being rocked in a wooden rocker, to write to Disney and let them know your concerns.

...or take some personal accountablility to plan your day accordingly or postpone your trip until such a time your child (no matter how they are fed) can eat in the given situation. Bottom line- YOU should be responsible for accomadating the needs of your child, not Disney.

 

[designermv]

...or take some personal accountablility to plan your day accordingly or postpone your trip until such a time your child (no matter how they are fed) can eat in the given situation. Bottom line- YOU should be responsible for accomadating the needs of your child, not Disney.

That is true. I wonder what the laws for pumping in public are? Most breastpumps come with battery packs, so a woman could feasibly sit on a bench anywhere and pump. Heck, she could do it right on Main Street! Hopefully no one would care. I don't know that I'd be comfortable doing it, but if I could do it without anyone getting upset, I suppose I could give it a try.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

I hate/d pumping more than anything in this world. If someone needs to pump, they are welcome to my chair, and anything else I have that might make them more comfortable. My sister had to pump the 4 months my niece was in the NICU. Those moms are heroes in my book. That said, the need for privacy comes from having their ****s out, yet again!

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

I have been reading and not commenting much. I have heard lots of moms say that they understand the need for babies to feed in quiet, private places. I have heard moms (of various feeding styles) comment that they do understand the need for moms and babies to have this option.

I do not find it surpising that bottlefeeding moms have not explicitly said they understand/agree with only certain types of babies being afforded this option. I am guessing that the breastfeeding moms would be the same way if there was a bottlefeeding specific room that they were excluded from.

So what I think this "says" is that people get upset with not being treated equally.

If they had to expose a personal area to do so, they are more than welcome to a private place. It isn't about feeding...it is about breasts, once again...

 

[brymolmom]

Yes, but Disney fulfills all kinds of needs. They have seperate entrances for disabled people at rides and shows. They prepare special meals for those with allergies. You can go to guest services and they will do various things to accommodate various needs that their customers have. Disney saw a need for a private place for women to nurse, so they fulfilled that need. I am all about equality but this is a little ridiculous. Should I get to go in the wheel chair entrance if I want to? I am not being treated equal if they don't let me. No, bf is obviously not a disability. However, our society does not see it as natural in public so there is a need for a private area. What would the need for a private bottlefeeding room be? I really wouldn't care if there was one, I just don't see the need that Disney should be fulfilling. It is not like the bf room is a secret club that excludes bottlefeeding moms - but that seems to be the impression that bottlefeeding moms have. Would it be beneficial to have a bottlefeeding room only because it is quieter? It isn't quieter if a bunch of mothers are talking in there or if siblings are in there. But, if you don't allow mothers to bring in the siblings then aren't you discriminating against her? It would be never ending. I guess I just don't see it.

My point is that the need is the same for many moms who need to feed their child. So the needs are the same here. Many moms can feed their child anywhere in the park...some require a more private setting. The need is the same for these moms. Whether it is for being afraid to expose part of your body or needing quiet - the need is the same - a private place to feed your child.

 

[designermv]

I hate/d pumping more than anything in this world. If someone needs to pump, they are welcome to my chair, and anything else I have that might make them more comfortable. My sister had to pump the 4 months my niece was in the NICU. Those moms are heroes in my book. That said, the need for privacy comes from having their ****s out, yet again!

Pumping sucks (no pun intended ) I had to exclusively pump for eight weeks because my daughter was born early and in the NICU for five days. She wouldn't latch until she was 8 weeks old. I can BF her now easily, but I had to go back to work right when she turned 8 weeks, so I still have to pump 3x a day. I'm still trying to decide whether or not to bring my pump to DW in a few weeks...I'm nervous about her getting lazy and my ****s still being on a 3x a day pumping schedule. I don't relish the thought of carting my Medela PIS around the parks all day. And in all seriousness, I would not feel comfortable pumping ANYWHERE but in a private room.

Edited to add: My workplace (a college campus) doesn't even have a private room for me to pump. I have to go to my car 3x a day and pump. I'm lucky that I park just outside my building and it's convenient. Still, it was no fun when it was snowing and 10 degrees outside.

 

[kidshop]

What does it really say?

Personally, I don't have a problem with the room for nursing mothers. But, to say that you (not personally you) deserve it just because you breastfeed, I do disagree with that.

This is just going to go back and forth because everyone thinks their reasoning is right.

Why do you think a bfing mom would think she DERSERVES a private room (with 4 chairs inside a Baby Care Center)? What would be the rationale for her deserving a special, privileged discriminatory room?

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

Pumping sucks (no pun intended ) I had to exclusively pump for eight weeks because my daughter was born early and in the NICU for five days. She wouldn't latch until she was 8 weeks old. I can BF her now easily, but I had to go back to work right when she turned 8 weeks, so I still have to pump 3x a day. I'm still trying to decide whether or not to bring my pump to DW in a few weeks...I'm nervous about her getting lazy and my ****s still being on a 3x a day pumping schedule. I don't relish the thought of carting my Medela PIS around the parks all day. And in all seriousness, I would not feel comfortable pumping ANYWHERE but in a private room.

Edited to add: My workplace (a college campus) doesn't even have a private room for me to pump. I have to go to my car 3x a day and pump. I'm lucky that I park just outside my building and it's convenient. Still, it was no fun when it was snowing and 10 degrees outside.

I'm surprised/saddened that a college campus is not more progressive thinking.bravo to you for working so hard at it.

 

[mom2maggie]

It definitely says a lot that, after 27 pages of posts, not one bottlefeeding mother has said that they understand why a private room is needed for nursing and/ or they understand why the rule exists. They have said how unfair it is. How it is discriminating. How it is wrong and makes them feel bad. How Disney is just promoting bf. Etc. Not one has said they understand the need - even after numerous posts trying to explain the need. However, a few bf moms have said that yes a bottlefeeding mom should be allowed in if it was not full. Even more bf moms said that they understand the rational for the rules and why it is enforced but Disney should still make additional accomodations for bottlefeeding moms and listed various ways to do so. This really just says a lot about the whole situation.

I've said in no less than 3 posts that I understand and respect that nursing mothers need a private space.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

I still want to know what mothers would do if their kids only eat in a dark room with a rocking chair and there is no BCC? Do they just not feed their kids? I have never heard of such a thing. Also- I am sorry but if you feel bad for bottlefeeding that isn't anyone's problem but your own. I dealt with a lot of breastfeeding comments in the beginning and I didn't care what anyone had to say. How anyone choses to feed their baby is their own business. Nobody can make you feel anything. You are the one who decides how you feel about something. I personally don't care how you feed your baby but I will agree that I would find it a little over the top to cry about not being let into a nursing room if I wasn't nursing. Everyone is different though.

 

[drmommy]

Pumping sucks (no pun intended ) I had to exclusively pump for eight weeks because my daughter was born early and in the NICU for five days. She wouldn't latch until she was 8 weeks old. I can BF her now easily, but I had to go back to work right when she turned 8 weeks, so I still have to pump 3x a day. I'm still trying to decide whether or not to bring my pump to DW in a few weeks...I'm nervous about her getting lazy and my ****s still being on a 3x a day pumping schedule. I don't relish the thought of carting my Medela PIS around the parks all day. And in all seriousness, I would not feel comfortable pumping ANYWHERE but in a private room.

No joke! I don't let ANYBODY watch me pump! Not even my husband! I don't even like watching my ******s being stretched into an oblivion!

 

[mom2maggie]

I still want to know what mothers would do if their kids only eat in a dark room with a rocking chair and there is no BCC? Do they just not feed their kids? I have never heard of such a thing.

If I had known that there weren't rocking chairs available to feed my infant, I wouldn't have planned a Disney trip for when she would be bottlefeeding. It's just how we choose to feed our babies - not for everyone, but it works for us. She doesn't ALWAYS require rocking, but it helps to soothe her.

I personally don't care how you feed your baby but I will agree that I would find it a little over the top to cry about not being let into a nursing room if I wasn't nursing. Everyone is different though.

Yup, everyone is!