I understand not liking company but.....

Just another perspective:

I'm not good at entertaining guests for long periods in my home. Nothing to do with kids, specifically. It's just very hard and I'm so uptight about whether they are comfortable, or my house is clean enough, etc. The times my husband invited his family to stay was rough for me. It's not them, it's me. It's my own hangup. However, I would like to think I'm not outwardly nutty about it.;)

It could very well be that she didn't want company but her husband did and she went along with it and was uncomfortable as heck.

She may (hopefully) be absolutely fine at Disney since it is neutral territory and the "responsibility" for entertaining will not be hers since she is not the host.
 
I would definitely re-think sharing the 3 bedroom villa. It seems as it would be better if you guys were in your own rooms, studios or 1 bedrooms.

If they want it, they can pay for it themsevles. I am really looking forward to staying with the other BIL and SIL and their kids. We are going to have a blast! If she wants to sit and have breakdowns everytime someone gets excited, go for it.

Just another perspective:

I'm not good at entertaining guests for long periods in my home. Nothing to do with kids, specifically. It's just very hard and I'm so uptight about whether they are comfortable, or my house is clean enough, etc. The times my husband invited his family to stay was rough for me. It's not them, it's me. It's my own hangup. However, I would like to think I'm not outwardly nutty about it.;)

It could very well be that she didn't want company but her husband did and she went along with it and was uncomfortable as heck.

She may (hopefully) be absolutely fine at Disney since it is neutral territory and the "responsibility" for entertaining will not be hers since she is not the host.


I would love to believe this but she is uptight about everything. And I mean everything. I witnessed her running around in a tizzy because she could not find her sons white hat. There were several other hats, but he wanted to white one and she needed to find it!:scared1:

And I understand feeling uncomfortable, sometimes I am too when I have company. But I don't act like she did and make everyone else around me feel unwelcome.
 
If they want it, they can pay for it themsevles. I am really looking forward to staying with the other BIL and SIL and their kids. We are going to have a blast! If she wants to sit and have breakdowns everytime someone gets excited, go for it.




I would love to believe this but she is uptight about everything. And I mean everything. I witnessed her running around in a tizzy because she could not find her sons white hat. There were several other hats, but he wanted to white one and she needed to find it!:scared1:

And I understand feeling uncomfortable, sometimes I am too when I have company. But I don't act like she did and make everyone else around me feel unwelcome.

Oh, well she sounds pretty neurotic. I would definitely have probably not rented a 3 BR villa. I think two, 2BR Villas would have been good.
 
If I am going to be staying at someone else's house I make sure my kids bring their own stuff to keep them occupied. I would never go to someone elses house and expect my children to have free reign over the toys and stuff there, but thats just me. I know some people have issues because there are people in my own family that do, and sometimes I do as well. There are a couple kids that constantly break things everytime they play with them and there are a few that make huge messes when they take out EVERY toy and leave it there, so sometimes I do put things awaay that aren't allowed to be taken out. I would never disallow any kids to play with what was out though.
I would also walk around picking up toys if they were out because I wouldn't want my house to look like pre-school playtime during a party I was hosting and I wouldn't want my guests to have to walk and trip over toys all over the floor. I certainly wouldn't have taken a toy out of your 9mos old hands, but if there were some that were "out" I would have put them away too. And yes, I would pick up any drip on my kitchen floor, but again thats just me, it would drive me crazy to just leave it. None of that stuff has anything to do with not liking company, its just the opposite I love when we have overnight guests :)
 

This is just my opinion - we did a grand gathering two years ago. It was our treat for all our children and their spouses, grandchildren and my mom. There were 16 of us. We got each family their own room because as much as we love each other sometimes too much togetherness, especially when each family has their own kids, can get on everyone's nerves.

This way everyone had their own little "retreat" with just their own families. Of course, their room, their rules.

I meant it would probably be better for each of the three families to get their own 1 bedroom or studio instead of sharing the three bedroom. Again that's just my opinion, but everyone in my family thinks our Grand Gathering was the best vacation ever and we all came back still talking to each other!
 
This is just my opinion - we did a grand gathering two years ago. It was our treat for all our children and their spouses, grandchildren and my mom. There were 16 of us. We got each family their own room because as much as we love each other sometimes too much togetherness, especially when each family has their own kids, can get on everyone's nerves.

This way everyone had their own little "retreat" with just their own families. Of course, their room, their rules.

I meant it would probably be better for each of the three families to get their own 1 bedroom or studio instead of sharing the three bedroom. Again that's just my opinion, but everyone in my family thinks our Grand Gathering was the best vacation ever and we all came back still talking to each other!

I understand what your saying but the two familes really want to stay in the same room and will do so without a problem. We want to stay in a 3 bedroom and will do so even if they decide they don't want to come. Then the kids can have their own bedroom without the 3rd family. Part of the fun for the two families is having the kids in the same room. They adore each other and we have so much fun when we are all together. I am not going to spend even more money for the 3rd family to have their own room because they cannot handle it. I feel that we are being generous enough by providing a week of lodging.
 
If I am going to be staying at someone else's house I make sure my kids bring their own stuff to keep them occupied. I would never go to someone elses house and expect my children to have free reign over the toys and stuff there, but thats just me. I know some people have issues because there are people in my own family that do, and sometimes I do as well. There are a couple kids that constantly break things everytime they play with them and there are a few that make huge messes when they take out EVERY toy and leave it there, so sometimes I do put things awaay that aren't allowed to be taken out. I would never disallow any kids to play with what was out though.
I would also walk around picking up toys if they were out because I wouldn't want my house to look like pre-school playtime during a party I was hosting and I wouldn't want my guests to have to walk and trip over toys all over the floor. I certainly wouldn't have taken a toy out of your 9mos old hands, but if there were some that were "out" I would have put them away too. And yes, I would pick up any drip on my kitchen floor, but again thats just me, it would drive me crazy to just leave it. None of that stuff has anything to do with not liking company, its just the opposite I love when we have overnight guests :)

I did not expect my child to have free rein. As I explained, we did bring Wii games to keep him occupied (knowing they had a Wii system) and they did not want to set it up for him. There is only so much that you can pack in the car so we were limited as to what we could bring.

But I did think it was rude they would not let my son do or play with anything. Who does that? I would NEVER invite family to my home and make them feel so unwelcome they wanted to leave.

As for your picking up toys so your home would not look like a preschool during a party comment, this was not a party. It was one family that invited the rest of the family for an entire weekend. Their childs toys were all out so it is not as if she had stuff put away and was mad that my kids were pulling them out of closets. She just did not want them touched by anyone but her son. If you don't want kids to play with your toys, the put them away!
 
It sounds like your SIL was a bit over-the-top, but I agree with some of the other posters. It sounds like she had a full house and my guess is that it was not her idea to invite everyone.

I get stressed out when people come over, especially for an extended stay. I do my best to hide it, but I'm not sure I always do a good job. It has nothing to do with the other people. I just feel like I am being pulled in 800 different directions between what people are asking for and checking to make sure everything is going smoothly, etc.

I also think I'm a more strict parent than many of the other people we know. My kids don't stand/jump on furniture. They don't go up the slide (admittedly DD "forgets" that rule if she thinks nobody's looking). They don't leave the back door wide open. They eat their food in the kitchen, not the living room. A lot of people I know apparently don't have those rules in their house or don't follow them in other people's houses. That stresses me out, too.

It sounds like your SIL is a little over the top about not sharing toys... But on the other hand, it doesn't sound like you prepared very well either. I would expect kids to be able to play with the toys that are out, but I would never assume that my kids would have access to someone else's Wii without asking first (and my kids are 6 and almost 10). A quick phone call saying "We were thinking about bringing some of our Wii games for Billy to play.." would have let you know in advance that the Wii was not set up. And, if ours was packed away, I wouldn't be too keen on getting it out/setting it up while everyone was over. You should have been more prepared with small toys/activity books for your child. I'm sure your son could have fit a weekend's worth of toys into a backpack. That doesn't take up much space.

I agree that it sounds like sharing a villa in WDW does not sound like the best plan. It sounds like SIL will have to "deal with it" since you're the hosts. However, I wouldn't let my kids be crazy and noisy even at WDW. They do get excited, but they're still 1) at a hotel and 2) in public, so that warrants good behavior/quiet voices, etc.
 
I'd change my WDW plans QUICK! I would definitely NOT share a space with her - you need you're own room to be loud in.

I have a SIL similar to yours - and no she's not used to the noise 'cause hers didn't make any noise when he was younger (he's almost 4 now & talks nonstop).

We went & were stressed out being there too - haven't been back (we have 3 kids)
Though I did let the babysit last year for a week - when we got there they were so stressed (her mom was there to help - my MIL) that we left earlier than we had planned.

We've been to WDW with them too - but I would never have shared a room with them -no matter what! I printed our itinerary & said see you when you get there - we'll be following the itinerary.
 
I think the idea to shoot her an email about the WDW trip is a good one. It may make her reconsider and get her own room, and that would make the trip more enjoyable for all involved.
 
I think the idea to shoot her an email about the WDW trip is a good one. It may make her reconsider and get her own room, and that would make the trip more enjoyable for all involved.

My DH is his brothers and dad are going fishing for 5 days in a few weeks, he is going to mention to that brother that it seems like they might be more comfortable in their own room, and then give him the number for WDW reservations. In a nice way, of course.;)
 
Wow, all I can say is that you need to write a trip report and share all the details of SIL crazy antics :rotfl2:
 
I did not expect my child to have free rein. As I explained, we did bring Wii games to keep him occupied (knowing they had a Wii system) and they did not want to set it up for him. There is only so much that you can pack in the car so we were limited as to what we could bring.

But I did think it was rude they would not let my son do or play with anything. Who does that? I would NEVER invite family to my home and make them feel so unwelcome they wanted to leave.

As for your picking up toys so your home would not look like a preschool during a party comment, this was not a party. It was one family that invited the rest of the family for an entire weekend. Their childs toys were all out so it is not as if she had stuff put away and was mad that my kids were pulling them out of closets. She just did not want them touched by anyone but her son. If you don't want kids to play with your toys, the put them away!

On the one hand, you say that they should just put away whatever they don't want your kids to play with, and those toys would be off-limits, and that's fine. But then they won't bring out the Wii when you want them to, and you're annoyed by that. Maybe they were concerned that your son would get over-excited and hit the TV with a controller? Regardless of their reasons, it seems like you want access to the toys you want, even if they've been put away.
 
On the one hand, you say that they should just put away whatever they don't want your kids to play with, and those toys would be off-limits, and that's fine. But then they won't bring out the Wii when you want them to, and you're annoyed by that. Maybe they were concerned that your son would get over-excited and hit the TV with a controller? Regardless of their reasons, it seems like you want access to the toys you want, even if they've been put away.

I was annoyed that they expected him to just sit there and do nothing. Kids don't do that. Heck - their 2 year old was running around like a madman. You also cannot expect kids to not be excited. She had mentioned it stressed her out having the other kids stay at their house once because they were to loud and excited. Yes, they are kids and they get excited. The horror!!

Next time we will know better - we will stay in a hotel or just not go at all.
 
I was annoyed that they expected him to just sit there and do nothing.

I don't think they expected him to sit there and do nothing. I think they expected you to provide age-appropriate activities for your son. You feel that you were unable to provide them due to space issues in your car and/or were relying on your hosts to provide things (like the Wii). It sounds like a major case of miscommunication and unfulfilled expectations to me.
 
I suspect that the odds are that your SIL invited you under duress, because your BIL insisted. I don't like having DH' family in my home, either, but DH occasionally insists, and I'll acquiesce to keep the peace. Your BIL is probably under the impression that your (extended) family will feel insulted if they do not host you all on occasion, so he is probably pushing her to do so. (Also, about the cleaning. That's why I don't like having his family over -- they are all neat-freaks, and I decidedly am not. Having them over means a huge cleaning chore, and if I don't stay on top of every crumb and cat hair, my MIL will make lots of little snide remarks. It's stressful.)

As to the wii, did you call first and ask if it would be available? In many households, a valuable game system is just the sort of "precious" toy that is often put away when other children come over, in order to protect it from breakage.
 
I did not expect my child to have free rein. As I explained, we did bring Wii games to keep him occupied (knowing they had a Wii system) and they did not want to set it up for him. There is only so much that you can pack in the car so we were limited as to what we could bring.


Did you actually check with them before you left home to be sure your child would be allowed to use their Wii? If so, and then they didn't let him, that was quite rude of them. If they didn't tell you that the Wii would be available, then I'm afraid you shouldn't have assumed it would be. Even though we have a Wii, and our friends and family know that, we might not let all children who visit us play with it. After hearing several stories about TVs being damaged by flying remotes, I am careful about who I let use my Wii. Saying it's boxed up and then not unboxing it is much easier (and nicer) than saying I won't let your child use it because I'm afraid he will damage something.

A few things jumped out at me from your original post:
All weekend long SIL was a basketcase and made everything miserable. She started out the weekend telling me how the other brother and his family had come to visit a few weeks earlier and she did not like how noisy their 5 and 8 year old kids were. SIL has a 2 year old son so should be used to noise, right? So I knew right then the weekend was not going to go well since we have a 6 year old and a 9 month old. My 6 year old can be a handful but if he has something to do, he can keep himself busy and out of trouble. That is where the problem came in. She did not want our 6 year old to play with any of the 2 year olds things. The only thing he was allowed to play with were 2 balls and they were only to be used outside. He tried to ride the hotwheel, and she did not want that. He tried to play with the dog, she did not like that. We had brought some Wii games for him to play knowing that they had a Wii and they just said it was boxed up and never unboxed it so that my kid could play it. The poor guy was going crazy!

She constandly was cleaning and fretting about something. She stood in the kitchen and proceeded to wipe up any drop of water that touched the floor. Cleaned up any toys that they let my 9 month old play with before she was even done playing....it was just miserable. I was a stressed out mess trying to keep both my kids quiet and in order so that she did not get upset about it.

We ended up only staying one night (a 3 hr drive both ways) because it was just to much. I just do not understand why she would ask people to stay at her house if clearly she did not like people in her home.
What makes me most afraid is that we are all (all 3 of our familes) are going to WDW together in December and I cannot imagine what she is going to be like then. We are staying in a 3 bedroom villa at AKV and she is just going to have to sit in her room and freak out because I am not going to keep my kids quiet at Disney. They are going to be allowed to get excited. I know that the other SIL feels the same way. Our kids get so excited when they are together and I am not about to hold them back because this SIL cannot manage her stress issues.

From the bolded, I get the impression that you simply have different parenting and cleaning styles. Many parents don't allow their children to be loud indoors. Just because she has a child doesn't necessarily mean that she should be used to extremely loud children. The fact that you don't intend to keep your kids quiet at Disney World would probably bother many people. In a shared living situation, especially a hotel, it's considerate to keep your voices down. If you don't intend to do that, and she does, that's not going to end well.

I wouldn't want some children playing with my dog, either, so I think it was totally reasonable that she didn't let your child play with her dog. Maybe her dog has aggression issues, or maybe it is afraid of some children, or maybe she thinks your child would be too rough. Whatever her reason, it wasn't rude for her to tell your child not to play with the dog. Since she invited you to stay with her, I think it would have been polite for her to have a few age-appropriate toys on hand for your child, but I really think it's your responsibility as a parent to travel with things to entertain your child, especially since you say he can be a handful. Knowing that he needs to be kept occupied, you shouldn't count on other people providing things to occupy him. You should always come prepared in case they don't.

As for the water thing, that is a bit odd. Maybe she thinks it would damage the floor, or that someone would slip on it. Or maybe she's a little bit OCD. But if she wants to keep the water off the floor, then I don't think it's rude for her to be cleaning it up.

If it's possible, I think you should try to figure out alternate lodging arrangements for your trip. Your families don't sound like they mesh particularly well. If that isn't possible then you need to find a compromise that will work for both families. That may mean you will have to be neater and more quiet than you otherwise would be, and she'll have to put up with more noise and mess than she would prefer.
 
I invite my cousins over with her young children and plan appropriately. I baby-proof the house, and get out the toys I still have for that age group. Then I just sit back and ;et the carnage happen! ;) I have kids too, so it's no biggie. And I do not expect her to come here and spend the entire time watching/entertaining her children. She's here for a visit with the grown ups, and her children are here to play with my children. They have a blast!

Your SIL needs to learn to relax - but methinks she is one of those naturally uptight types that nothing will help. God bless her little one - that's going to be one tough upbringing!
 
I don't think they expected him to sit there and do nothing. I think they expected you to provide age-appropriate activities for your son. You feel that you were unable to provide them due to space issues in your car and/or were relying on your hosts to provide things (like the Wii). It sounds like a major case of miscommunication and unfulfilled expectations to me.

I agree. I guess I must be the SIL from heck as well. My kids are older (17 & 19) and there is no way that they would let a 6 year child "touch" their game systems. When I think back, we always brought our own stuff to peoples houses. I always thought it was my responsibility to make sure my kids were entertained and had things to keep them out of trouble. At the very least you should have asked if you would be able to use the Wii and not just assume they would allow you to.

This past weekend my SIL and BIL came with little 3 year old nephew. They asked if they could turn the TV on to entertain him. I had no problem with this until he couldn't stop touching my huge 65" TV screen and the parents made no attempt to stop him. My DH kept trying to redirect his attention and finally did ask him not to touch the TV, hoping that his parents would get the hint. They didn't and at the first opportunity we turned the TV off and redirected his attention to another activity. I'm sure they probably think I am a horrible host as well.
 


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