I think some people take the boards way too seriously

[inaminute]

What's funny about that is I have personally deleted maybe 10 or 15 posts from this thread. Pretty much everyone got a pm unless it was just blatant. I don't see many people posting "OH yea my post was deleted and I got a pm explaining it"

Not to start anything here, but in the PM I received regarding something I posted on another topic it was made clear that questioning the mods decisions or posting about it was against the rules.

So, were I to receive a PM from you regarding a deleted post, I wouldn't dare post about it! Am I the only one who's confused about this?

 

[WebmasterAlex]

Respectfully Alex the problem with this is that people are having a hard time with what exactly constitutes a "personal attack." Also some people repetedly attack and pot stir and are free to post and others do the same thing are banned. "Personal attack" is subjective and it seems the line changes frequently. That is where people are frustrated.

You've said time and time again that it's between the board and the poster and that's fine but many of times the poster has no idea about why they were banned. One could assume they broke a guideline but in many cases it's been hard to pinpoint a specific event.

So I will second the call for specifics. No one know how it works. It there are threshold? Three strikes your out. Is there some sort of watch list? Are people notified that they are skating on thin ice?

Radionate, NOBODY is banned because oops they accidently crossed some imaginary line. Everyone that has been banned either knows or with the slightest amount of common sense should know why they have been banned.
A person is only banned when they purposefully and intentionally continue to violate the guidelines.
It takes a LOT to get banned.
If you hear a story "OH I was banned and I don't know why", you are hearing exactly that, a story.

 

[WebmasterAlex]

Not to start anything here, but in the PM I received regarding something I posted on another topic it was made clear that questioning the mods decisions or posting about it was against the rules.

So, were I to receive a PM from you regarding a deleted post, I wouldn't dare post about it!

actually inaminute you just did

 

[C.Ann]

"Personal attack" is subjective and it seems the line changes frequently. That is where people are frustrated.

So I will second the call for specifics. No one know how it works. It there are threshold? Three strikes your out. Is there some sort of watch list? Are people notified that they are skating on thin ice?

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I would be interested in seeing the definition of "personal attack" as well.. In some cases it has been nothing more than a differing opinion with a mod or webmaster on a general topic of discussion, not a discussion regarding the DIS guidelines or bannings..

If the definition of "personal attack" can't be posted in black and white, then "subjective" pretty much rules the day.. I don't understand how people can be expected to follow the guidelines when they're so wishy-washy and obviously applied on a whim..

I think most posters don't WANT to break the rules, but in order to follow them, they have to know what they are..

 

[Saffron]

What's funny about that is I have personally deleted maybe 10 or 15 posts from this thread. Pretty much everyone got a pm unless it was just blatant. I don't see many people posting "OH yea my post was deleted and I got a pm explaining it"

Because Alex, maybe they're afraid that doing so would be a cause to be banned.

It seems to me in the past people did speak out about it, joke about it, acknowlege it, without fear of some sort of retrobution. I remember feeling embarrassed when I got a slap on the wrist for arguing with the Boston doc, and I posted that I had been warned to cool it with him, but in light of what's happened recently I don't think that type of post would be allowed to stand today. And I doubt many people would feel free or comfortable to post that they had been deleted with or without an explanation.

 

[WebmasterAlex]

Because Alex, maybe they're afraid that doing so would be a cause to be banned.

It seems to me in the past people did speak out about it, joke about it, acknowlege it, without fear of some sort of retrobution. I remember feeling embarrassed when I got a slap on the wrist for arguing with the Boston doc, and I posted that I had been warned to cool it with him, but in light of what's happened recently I don't think that type of post would be allowed to stand today. And I doubt many people would feel free or comfortable to post that they had been deleted with or without an explanation.

Nobody has ever been banned for posting OOPS I posted something bad, the moderator sent me a pm. I don't see any reason a post like that would be deleted unless you posted again what you posted the first time.
Saffron you are living proof of that, your previous post is still standing, you weren't banned and you did not recieve a warning.

 

[Planogirl]

Why doesn't someone just post the guidelines and be done with it? I don't mean the short little rules that are listed now but the actual guidelines.

I know of 'unmentionables' who have no idea why they were banned. Yes, I've only heard one side but that's all there is. I don't want specific details about them and I doubt that anyone expects that. But something indicating actual guidelines would be nice so that people can avoid posting things that get deleted.

I see that posts are being deleted from this thread too. So what's the point?

 

[WebmasterAlex]

BTW I would like to say I could have phrased the title to this thread better.

What I meant was that I do know the difference between someone posting something bad on an internet board and the terrible tragedy that has happend to this family.
I understood that this person had friends on this board that were hurting over this tragedy, needed to grieve and yes we would allow it to be talked about.
Unfortunately this thread has went in a way different direction.
A better title would have been a factual "It's ok to talk about Lea/Deafmedic".

 

[hugsquared]

In my most humble opinion, I think everyone should just walk away from this thread. The only purpose it serves is to remind us "little one's" that we need not question authority or have real concerns when it comes to the DisBoards. Different posters have asked over and over again about specific guidelines and unless explinations were given in posts that have been deleted, nothing has come of these requests. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to some of the bannings and my guess is, there never will be. As others have said, it's not our house and it's not our rules.
I've been on this site just under a year and have come to love many of you guys for the posts you write. Some funny, some controversial, some just "out there". I really enjoyed it for a while, but it has really gotten tiresome. About as tiresome as the "answers" that we keep getting that give no real anwers at all. I'm sure I'll pop over from time to time to see what kind of interesting questions folks have going around, and if the time comes that we're ready to make another trip to the World, I'll check it out for savings. But rest assured on one issue. I have spread the word to many, many friends and family about this site, how friendly it was and what a great resource it has been. The words "check out the DisBoards...let me give you the site address" will never be uttered from my lips again. It may not hurt Pete, the WM's or the Mods, but just the utter lack of respect given to the simple little members here is enough to make me guide people in other directions. Alex and Kathy...more power to you guys, I hope it all works out for you in the end. And Pete, may you become the Travel/Board mogul that you want to be. For me, I'll slip quietly into the night and try and forget the fact that this place has stolen some of the magic I came here to find. I find it really sad that a place put here to promote "The Happiest Place on Earth" has turned us into fearful and sometime loathing human beings.
I'll see some of you on sites where we can talk like grown ups and not be afraid of every comment you make. It may get nasty or down right dirty at times, but you know where you stand with people and I have a lot more respect for that type of place.

 

[Saffron]

Radionate, NOBODY is banned because oops they accidently crossed some imaginary line. Everyone that has been banned either knows or with the slightest amount of common sense should know why they have been banned.
A person is only banned when they purposefully and intentionally continue to violate the guidelines.
It takes a LOT to get banned.
If you hear a story "OH I was banned and I don't know why", you are hearing exactly that, a story.

See, I don't buy this. I think it was you yourself Alex that said there at least two sides to every story. And this, "with the slightest amount of common sense", is pretty condescending to those who were not given an explanation or warning who really felt they were DISing within the guidelines of the DIS. "With the slightest amount of common sense", anyone can pretty much understand why a sentence, maybe even an entire post is deleted, but when you talk about some of the recent bannings, it's an inappropriate statement.

Common sense dictates that if you give an explanation of why someone is on the verge of being banned, and they care about posting on the DIS, they would try real hard NOT to be banned. At the very least if they had receieved any sort of warning they would blab about it to their friends, out of outrage or humor, so at least their banning wouldn't be such a shock when it happened.

 

[mtblujeans]

I am just glad this thread allows people to post their frustration! There has been too much tension on the boards of late!!

 

[WebmasterAlex]

See, I don't buy this. I think it was you yourself Alex that said there at least two sides to every story. And this, "with the slightest amount of common sense", is pretty condescending to those who were not given an explanation or warning who really felt they were DISing within the guidelines of the DIS. "With the slightest amount of common sense", anyone can pretty much understand why a sentence, maybe even an entire post is deleted, but when you talk about some of the recent bannings, it's an inappropriate statement.

Common sense dictates that if you give an explanation of why someone is on the verge of being banned, and they care about posting on the DIS, they would try real hard NOT to be banned. At the very least if they had receieved any sort of warning they would blab about it to their friends, out of outrage or humor, so at least their banning wouldn't be such a shock when it happened.

Actually Saffron I know for a fact you are wrong. I have seen way too many cases where someone screams "I was banned and I have NO idea why" when I know for a fact they recieved an explanation.
I would also like to point out that if you change email addresses, use a fake one or otherwise make it unable for us to contact you ...no you won't recieve one

 

[Saffron]

Nobody has ever been banned for posting OOPS I posted something bad, the moderator sent me a pm. I don't see any reason a post like that would be deleted unless you posted again what you posted the first time.
Saffron you are living proof of that, your previous post is still standing, you weren't banned and you did not recieve a warning.

Well that's good Alex, I am glad you allowed it to stay. Honestly, I don't think I posted anything that should have been deleted or anything I should have been banned for. I don't think noticing, questioning and speaking out about things is a bannable offense. I didn't post anything to rile anyone up, I didn't post anything to make anyone mad, I just posted how I felt.

But I have to say ... that is exatly what got some people banned over the past few weeks. Don't get me wrong, some people wanted to be banned, but some people never thought in a million years that they did or said anything that was bannable ... and without an explanation, they're led to believe the best conclusion they can draw.

And I'm glad you made the comment you did about the title of this thread.

 

[Saffron]

Actually Saffron I know for a fact you are wrong. I have seen way too many cases where someone screams "I was banned and I have NO idea why" when I know for a fact they recieved an explanation.

Oh I believe you! I'm pretty sure that happens.

I would also like to point out that if you change email addresses, use a fake one or otherwise make it unable for us to contact you ...no you won't recieve one

And Alex, one last thing, because I think I've said just about everything I want to say about this, I need to get some coffee and get going on other things. Let's not forget that you yourself said that some people don't get an explanation, they should just realize why they were banned, use some common sense. I say that's unfair.

 

[WebmasterAlex]

Well Maggie in that category I am including people that register just to post spam, that constitutes about 3/4ths of all bannings believe it or not. People that post an obviously pornographic picture. People that register under an assumed name to attack someone on these boards etc etc. In cases like that I see no reason for a wm or a mod to waste their time letting someone know why they were banned.

 

[WebmasterAlex]

Anyway for those that think people are banned for no reason or for "disagreeing" I ask to just look at this thread. I do honestly wish we could have more discussion but it's impossible to leave a thread like this open without "babysitting" it. The people that disagreed in a respectful manner were allowed to be heard. Unfortunately there are too many trolls that felt the need to come here, post stuff that they KNEW would be deleted so they could pat themselves on the back and feel really cool. I do apologise to the posters that were willing to discuss this in a respectful manner that it can't continue.

Just so everyone is clear it is a rules violation to repost a thread that has been closed, otherwise there would be little sense in closing a thread.