We just bought a car on Saturday. Our biggest asset was we found a car that had been on their lot for awhile, and they wanted to move it. Also their sales had started the month sluggish. We started negotiating, and our price and their price equaled a difference in payment of over 250 a month!! They were so wanting to sell us a van that they asked us what we would have to have to make it work...we gave them a number that we thought there was NO way they could come to, and they actually did it! Score!
We have bought lots of cars, and the biggest thing is you have to be willing to walk away if you don't get what you want. (seems you haven't had a hard time doing that!). Are you trading in a car? Make sure you get an accurate price of what your car is worth. You can definitely pit one dealer against another when it comes to your trade in value. I have gotten dealerships to match or exceed what I have gotten from another dealer on my trade.
Also, do you or your husband work for a larger company? DH's company gets supplier pricing with some car manufacturers, sometimes equaling 1 or 2% under invoice. We always play that card AFTER they have given us all the deals they are going to offer. Compare car ads, and take them with you to the dealership.
Good luck! For me, the negotiation is always part of the fun! But then again, I was an attorney in my previous life.
We have bought lots of cars, and the biggest thing is you have to be willing to walk away if you don't get what you want. (seems you haven't had a hard time doing that!). Are you trading in a car? Make sure you get an accurate price of what your car is worth. You can definitely pit one dealer against another when it comes to your trade in value. I have gotten dealerships to match or exceed what I have gotten from another dealer on my trade.
Also, do you or your husband work for a larger company? DH's company gets supplier pricing with some car manufacturers, sometimes equaling 1 or 2% under invoice. We always play that card AFTER they have given us all the deals they are going to offer. Compare car ads, and take them with you to the dealership.
Good luck! For me, the negotiation is always part of the fun! But then again, I was an attorney in my previous life.

! Anyway, back to the OP we bought the van last July and even though my DH works for the dealer they were not offering us the greatest deal. Yes, we got the rebates (including owner loyalty because we were repeat customers) and we even got the employee "discount" but, still I felt they could do better. My DH knows I have a big mouth and told me not to say anything, lucky for him I also don't follow directions very well either
. When they quoted us the monthly payment I told them "no, I think you can do better than that" at first they said that was the best they could do but, eventually they dropped the price.