I have severe muscular dystrophy and LOTS of questions. Any advice welcomed!

DizWisher

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Hi all.
I have quite a few issues to figure out before a 10 day trip in October (for my 32nd birthday). I'd really appreciate any advice on any of them.
I have a form of muscular dystrophy: dysautonomic mitochondrial myopathy. I use a power chair, vent and inline oxygen, and have a trach, SP foley, ileostomy, G-tube and Hickman central line. I have a bunch of health issues.
I am driving down with my husband, who does a lot of my care, and another caregiver (call him DC) to help, so DH can have fun. We're staying on-site, in a one bedroom villa at OKW, so we’ll have plenty of fridge space for meds and my IV nutrition. DH and DC are planning to stash many snacks there as well.
But we have a lot of questions.
Biggest issue, IV meds:
I have to receive a combo of four antibiotics and two antifungals IV, via my central line, every 48 hours at the infusion center of my hospital. It isn't a big deal to hook them up, etc., but we cannot carry a supply (short stability) and we cannot run them at home/ in the villa, because three can cause nasty and unexpected side effects. At least, I must have this done someplace with access to emergency care (EMS response/paramedic skills). At WDW, it would suck to waste not just the four hour infusion every 48 hours, but the commute to a hospital as well. My caregivers can run the infusions, and we have all our own supplies, including BP, pulse-ox, stethoscope and so on.
If we can arrange for the meds to be delivered by mail or a local infusion pharmacy, will First Aid stations in the parks allow us to infuse there? In the worst case, we'll need an ambulance and EMT care. Likely, this won't happen.
We also have 21 other meds given by IV push or piggyback into my line. Some we can leave in the room, but several must be brought with, and a few need refrigeration. Can we leave them at a First Aid station, and pick up unused ones at the end of each day, and can we give IV infusions that we CAN do alone if our timing doesn't have us in the villa on time? Our biggest concern is the timing on my seizure meds and the timing on starting my IV feeds (my other IV piggybacks are only 15 minutes each, and feeds we can just start and then take with us in a pack on my chair.) They have to be very consistent in timing. Are there stations throughout the park, or just one? We need someplace to give my IV push meds, and doing it outdoors/in a crowd is an infection risk. Does anybody know of sheltered, not overly crowded locations to use for push meds if First Aid is geographically impossible?
We have a similar issue with suction. We can't plan every trach suction, but we assume I'll need them every few hours at least. Can I leave extra supplies at First Aid?
Wheelchair size:
My vent, suction, vent batteries, liquid O2 and mini-nebulizer are on my attached vent tray or hanging from the back of my chair. Also, my chair has to be tilted/laid back to a 45 degree or so angle. If it is crucial, I can sit a bit more upright than that, but nowhere near 90 degrees. Will I still fit on the WC accessible rides?
Lines:
We can manage lines on the integrated wheelchair entrances with a sun shade (like a buggy hood), a mini fan on my chair, plus a cooling pack we carry for my neck; it is wonderful. Our problem is how to LEAVE lines. My big seizures are well-controlled with meds, smaller focal/partial complex/petit-mal can occur daily, and when they do, my caregiver often has to suction/hook up vent or ambu-bag if I’m not on my vent, and potentially must give IV push Ativan. We’d need to leave the line quickly (I have attendant controls to make it easier.) Also, in a situation where heat was a factor, I needed care or I felt seizure aura or just unwell in some way, we'd prefer to leave the line and just come back to the attraction when I'm better. Is there a way to escape the middle of a line with a big, honkin’ wheelchair?
Restrooms:
I need someone to assist me in emptying my sp tube, g-drain and ileostomy bags, and to change me if necessary. Both my someones are male, so I guess we need a companion restroom. Emptying bags is not a prob. But is there anyplace in the companion bathrooms that we can use if I need a change? I’m roughly 90-100 lbs and too tall for a folding “baby/toddler” table (and I am neither of those.) The floor isn’t an option, even with Chux laid out. A solid counter would be fine, or a sturdy supported table. The seating system on my chair makes it not an option, even laid flat.
Disney Dining:
We have ordered the DDP for all three of us. Mostly, this is for my DH and DC’s huge appetites. I get all my nutrition via my central line (TPN), and cannot take any oral or enteral nutrition. I do like tasting foods, mostly chewing and then spitting them out into Dixie cups. Chewing, even if I don’t swallow, is tough for me after a few bites, so we figured I’d order what sounded yummy, chew and spit some, and then divide my remaining unchewed food between DH and DC (they can happily eat their own meals and half of mine.) I know this sounds vile, but I miss food, and I try not to force innocent bystanders to watch. We are REALLY DISCREET, and we are careful if in public to not gross everybody out. We get odd looks, and on a few occasions, really curious questions from waitstaff (and once, blatant hostility because I’m “wasting food.” I guess I am, but my nutritionist says it is good for my teeth and jaw muscles. And I like food!) Are the WDW restaurant CMs used to seeing strange stuff, or am I opening up to a barrage of questions or hostility twice a day for ten days? As I said, we are VERY CAREFUL to not make everybody else look at this, we use opaque cups, and Ziploc and throw away our own trash, my DH and DC are quick and neat feeding me, etc. Is it inappropriate for us to go to “signature” restaurants, or are we okay so long as we’re neat and unnoticeable?
And after only two pages…I think that’s it. Until I get nervous again and remember a bunch of stuff I left out. Sorry for the novella length, thanks for reading.
I’m going back to Disneyworld! I am so excited.

DizWisher
princess: me, 31 :surfweb: DH, 37 pirate: DC, 50
 
I can help with a few questions. You can use the first aid stations for changes. They will let you use a bed in a private area. Suction wherever, we suctioned our son when and where he needed (other than restaraunts, just my own yuck factor). There is only one first aid station per park. As to chewing/spitting food. Sounds discreet to me and I wouldn't be bothered by it. You could ask the CMs for an out of the way table if possible. I'm sure others will be able to help you more. Enjoy your trip. Karen
 
I also travel in a power chair with a vent attached and use a feeding tube/pump set up. First Aid is wonderful but there is only one in each park and sometimes it's a real hike to get there. You are allowed to store things there including items that need to be refrigerated. Your care cannot be assisted by the nurses there but they will point you to a private room which will have a table like an examining table- it is high of course but if your chair raises, it might be easy enough for someone to help you transfer. As to chewing food and spitting it out, it isn't something I do in public but that's up to you as it's your vacation too ( and your birthday!). Sorry...but we have to realize that people are usually looking at us anyway and it's hard to be discreet about something like that- if someone realizes what you're doing it may not make a pleasant experience for them, but again I'm not sure how you go about this and it's certainly up to you. You can always ask to be placed at a table out of the way of most others so you can have a taste of something without having people surrounding your party- it's also a bit safer for your vent hoses. There's plenty of room for your chair and equipment in Signature restaurants and you're certainly able to choose to dine wherever you want. The only places we've dined where I've felt there was a real space issue was Garden Grill and San Angel Inn but just figure that most restaurants at WDW are much like those in any community. Also your credits on the DDP, if not used by you, can be used by another adult so there's no problem asking for your meal to be brought with the intention of sharing it with the others. I have a Permobil ( adult narrow) and my vent is an LTV- when tilted it's impossible to get on some of the ride vehicles but there are some, Small World comes to mind, where this should not be a problem. There really aren't alot of attractions to enjoy without transferring but the shows and ambience are wonderful. The queue lines aren't very wide and it will be difficult to turn your chair around and plow back out through others in line, esp. if your chair is tilted- I'm thinking you will have a real challenge if you need to get out of queue lines quickly but again, this will depend on the attraction itself. Definitely take advantage of Fast Pass if you want to go through the more popular attractions with others who will be riding. You are able to do a rider switch so that your husband and caregiver can take turns riding while one is able to wait with you. I'm also thinking of the busses and Disney transportation. Are you driving to the parks in your own vehicle or planning to take the busses? While you won't have a problem with a tilted chair on the boats or monorail, for safety you will not be able to recline your chair on the bus, nor will it fit. You can recline only slightly, definitely not to 45 degrees. Hopefully Christamae will chime in on this thread. She has issues similar to yours as well as her sister and mother also having MD. Her family travelled to WDW last year. You can search for her thread under Eternaldisneyfan to see her list of accessible attractions for those who cannot transfer and also read her TR. Meanwhile, happy planning, and esp. Happy Birthday!---Kathy
 
Hi and :welcome: to both DisBoards and disABILITIES!

I really can't give any better advice than Kathy gave.

However, reading what you said about the four-hour infusion, and possible problems, I would really suggest using Florida Hospital Celebration. I would say it is only about a 15 minute drive from OKW. You might want to get specific advice from your medical team at home. Note that your team, especially the Social Worker, can make the arrangements to handle this at Celebration Hospital.
 

CMs see some weird stuff from people with out disabilities so your chewing and spitting is not that unusual. You have it down to a science so that will help. Explain to the CM you situation and they might find you a more descrete location if you want.

Do not worry about what others think about your quirks, disabilities, etc. as it is not worth the worrying. It they complain the educate them or ignore them. They are the same people who stare at a woman not dressed
"properly", someone's bald spot, or the bad tooth on someone. They glare at kids who are to loud, snarggle about the way other people talk, and ask to be moved to another part of a restaurant because they do not like whom they are seated next to.

I have celiac so I have had to chew and spit in order to tell a friend if her sandwich was spoiled. I find nothing wrong with tasting food. I miss the taste of pizza, fried eggs, donuts, and cheesecake so I know that I would do what ever it takes to enjoy food if I could.
 
Hi all.

I have a form of muscular dystrophy: dysautonomic mitochondrial myopathy. I use a power chair, vent and inline oxygen, and have a trach, SP foley, ileostomy, G-tube and Hickman central line. I have a bunch of health issues.

Are you on any of the mito lists? They may also be able to give you some advice and support. Mito Oldies is probably the most active of the adult groups. I've not heard of that term being used often. At least for kids they often talk about which respiratory complex is involved. Dysautonomia is, unfortunately, something that doesn't seem uncommon in mito patients. I'm going to have a tilt table test next month.

Hope you have a wonderful trip!

Mito-subscribe@yahoogroups.com (mostly for parents of kids)
adultmito-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
mitoldies-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
 
Hi! This is Christamae that Kathy (dclfun) referred to. The link to my report is in my signature.

First off, there is only one first aid. I highly recommend bringing a small ice chest or something to carry your more time sensitive medications. We strapped one to my Mom's chair with a bungee cord.

I highly recommend getting a GAC. Explain your vent battery limitations, medication schedule, and fatigue issues. And the concerns you have about having an emergency in line.

When I was in line my family kinda built a wall around me. A lot of cues have detachable cords so you could get out fast that way. Or you could ask for a return time equal to the wait time so you wouldn't be stuck in line. Fastpass is your friend.

As I understand it, there is always an EMT on grounds at Disney for emergencies. If your caregivers are knowledgeable I would take the treatment in one of the treatment rooms at First Aid.

For the push meds I would use a Companion Restroom or look for a quiet corner.

Suctioning-we suctioned when I needed it wherever I was. It's my airway! That said I would try not to suction during a show or wait until a loud part. It's very hard to suction on rides.

Rides-That is tricky. It really depends on how long your chair is. I am usually tipped back 20-30 degrees. One ride I barely fit on after tipping all the way down and taking off my footplates. You definately can't ride: Buzz Lightyear, Stitch's Great Escape, Aladdin's Flying Carpets in MK, The Great Movie Ride in Hollywood Studios, Ellen's Energy Adventure in Epcot.

Your best shots:
Jungle Cruise in MK. They may ask you to tip down some until the lift into the boat is lowered.

"it's a small world" in MK. Lots of room. Almost positive you will fit.

The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh-Maybe. Back in. If you fit it will be tight.

The Railroad. You could pull or back straight in and ride sideways if you can't sit forward

Kilimanjaro Safaris in Animal Kingdom-Maybe. Back in. The ride is quite rough and your companions should help stabilize your chair.

Backlot tour in Hollywood Studios. If you can't turn forward just pull straight. Don't back in if you can't sit forward because there is a water effect that could get your vent weight.

Journey Into Your Imagination with Figment in Epcot- Maybe. The line is always short. Taking off your footplates would help. There is a fun play area after the ride.

Living with the Land-Maybe. There should be enough space but we had to convince the CM that we weren't in ECVs and could maneuver.

Mexico boat ride ??? and the three Caballeros- Almost certainly. Same set up as it's a small world.

I don't know how hard it is for you to transfer. For me-very hard & I have to be completely supported. But I rode Soarin'-a very gentle, easy transfer, thrilling ride with one person holding me up on each side.

There is a new ride in the Living Seas that I don't have experience with.

Bathrooms:
The plague of our trip. My Dad is my caregiver so I get the male in female bathroom thing. At home that is just the way it is. At Disney we tried to use the Companion Restrooms but couldn't always.

Epcot definitely had the best companion restroom set up. Easy to find by the description and just about the right length apart. Several were by smoking sections. They are not on the map. You have to go by the description.

To the left of Spaceship Earth by (guest services)
As you enter, to the right of Spaceship Earth
Behind Mousegears/across from Test Track
Behind Innoventions West not far from The Land
Inside the Land Pavilion near the entrance to Soarin’
First Aid
Near Germany
Morocco (look for it by the regular bathrooms)
Canada (on the way) by Refreshment Port 1
Norway opposite the Viking Ship

The regular restroom outside the park was never busy and had a good stall. The regular restroom in America by the fast food had a good stall.

Animal Kingdom:
The regular restrooms have good stalls so there aren't many Companion restrooms and we had a really hard time finding them.

First Aid
Discovery Island opposite Flame Tree Barbecue, just before DinoLand
Chester and Hester's Dinosaur Treasures in Dinoland USA
Harambe Village in the Mombasa Marketplace (look for the Pin Trading) outside entrance of Kilimanjaro Safaris
Near Maharajah Jungle Trek
Conservation Station at Rafiki's Planet Watch

Hollywood Studios:
The regular restroom outside the entrance was very good and had a sink inside the stall.

We found the Companion Restrooms hard to find. Probably should've asked a CM.

First Aid
Right side of Lights, Motors, Action!-I believe it had a small bench
Opposite Star Tours by Sounds Dangerous
Right side of Millionaire building on Mickey Avenue
On the path to Fantasmic
Inside Fantasmic! Theater
Near exit of Rockin’ Rollercoaster
Near the entrance to ToT

The regular restrooms were usually big enough for a wheelchair.

Magic Kingdom:
Even some of the Companion Restrooms were small. Both Companion and normal are hit and miss

First Aid-tiny!
Between Space Mountain (42) and Carousel of Progress-good & not busy by smoking area
Inside/right by Pirates of the Carribbean store-tight but manageable
Near Splash Mountain
On the Way to Toontown
Inside the castle/Cinderella's Royal table restaurant-very good and has a bench but you need to ask permission because it is in the restaurant waiting area

The bathroom by Belle's Fairytaile/story gardens had a pretty good stall and the one before the park entrance

There are tons of shows to enjoy.

I will post some tips, recommendations, and all the air conditioned counter service in another post later
 
I'm just looking at Christamae's great list of attractions. One that I would probably skip is Kilimanjaro Safari's. It's way too jarring, esp if you have trunk and head control issues. I've almost slid out of my chair on that attraction even with another person helping me and then was in pain the rest of the day. I no longer "do" that attraction after my magical moment there! Part of the problem is that a w/c is not at the same level as the seats so we feel more of the movement. There also isn't much room to tilt too far back which would help you stabilize. Also, Journey to Imagination would be impossible for me in my chair if it were tilted/reclined at all- I'm not sure about the dimensions of your chair. As it was, I barely fit in the ride vehicle with my seat fully up. Definitely plan your schedule around the wonderful shows, parades, nightly fireworks, etc. that are accessible to anyone. During October there will be the food/wine festival with short music shows at Epcot to enjoy in the evening ( 3 shows per evening). Definitely make ADR's for dining since some of the more popular restaurants book early. Perhaps doing one of the dinner shows, like HDDR or Spirit of Aloha would be fun since there's a show to watch while others are eating. I also agree with Cheshire Figment about your infusion. Celebration Hospital isn't far away- my son went nearby for his dialysis treatments when we were at WDW in December and although it does cut into your touring time, I wouldn't want to think of needing an ambulance ride. It all depends with your level of comfort with the infusions and how you're feeling which you're the best judge of there. At least you know there is a safe, clean place to go. If you should have a problem, flag down the nearest CM who can radio to the EMT vs. trying to get to First Aid. If I can think of anything else helpful I'll be glad to share it.---Kathy
 
Here is a list of air-conditioned counter service restaurants:

Animal Kingdom

Pizzafari
Tusker House
Restaurauntorus *only lunch and dinner, breakfast is a character meal

Magic Kingdom

Casey's *limited seating
Cosmic Ray's
Pinocchio Village Haus
Pecos Bills
Columbia Harbour House

Disney's Hollywood Studios

Backlot Express
ABC Commissary

Epcot

Electric Umbrella
Sunshine Seasons
Lotus Blossom Cafe
Tangerine Cafe
Yakitori House
Liberty Inn


In the next post I will recommend things to do :goodvibes

-Christamae
 
Just wanted to say, Christamae...you are wonderful! Thanks for taking the time to post everything in such great detail for the OP.---Kathy
 
I don't have any advice to offer, that has already been well taken care of!

I just wanted to say Have Fun! Wishing that your trip is great!:wizard:

I also wanted to say that you all , Dizwisher, Kathy, & Christamae are a true inspiration!
 
Wow. I need to split this post in two.
Karen: we suction whenever I get “junky,” and always carry the suction machine on my vent tray and my suction /trach bag with an extra trach, trach ties, collar, gauze, tape, several 14 fr catheters and a few Yankauers hooked on my headrest bolt. First Aid sounds like a good place to stash some extras away, in case, and I’m glad that there is someplace private to care for my personal needs. Thanks!
Kathy: we are practically twins. I have a 14 w 16 long seat (as part of my seating system) on a Permobil C500, and I use an LTV 1000. Thanks for your posts. How hard was it to have your son’s dialysis billed to insurance?
We’re discreet enough that I don’t think other diners will realize WHAT we’re doing, but I ALWAYS want to be in as uncrowded place as possible; as you say, prevents entanglement in hoses, tubes to the ‘bags’ bag, IV tubing from my TPN and shins hitting my vent tray (the LTV backpack is awesome.) I am relieved that we are not breaking rules on the DDP. DH and DC really do eat that much, but then, they have to haul me around.
We are driving from MI, so we’ll take our minivan to the parks, I think.
Cheshire: Excellent idea! Thanks. Celebration Hospital is, in fact, willing and able to not only do my infusions, but also give me blood if necessary. As you surely know, they are used to WDW guests needing medical treatment, and think they can work with my insurance, etc. DH and DC are kind of relieved that they don’t have to be solely responsible for my bug killers. My infusion clinic nurses are willing to make this happen w/Celebration.
Mechurchlady: THANKS for letting me know I’m not alone in the “taste but can’t eat” category. And your advice to ignore others’ opinions and have fun was a most welcome reminder. No matter where we sit, we get gawked at, especially when DH and DC are feeding me, but we ALWAYS try to have me facing away from the room (and as few crowds as we can, as Kathy reminded, people get caught in tubing from the vent, from my G-tube, etc.)
Christamae: Wow. I would love to hear any other tips/info you have; I suspect that you have a bunch. You should write a “Disabled at Disney” handbook. I’d definitely buy it (and I think many of the others on Dis would too.)
Thanks so much for the advice; I’ll keep looking for the next installation. BTW, your trip report was great.
My IV push meds have to be given in as sterile an environment as possible. Are the companion restrooms clean enough to simply sterilize my laptray and safely draw and give my meds? I figured DH or DC can empty my bags in the companion restrooms, so barring medication and vent needs (in case of: due before afternoon break, timing off, need extra whatevers) which are not predictable, we only need to use the rooms at FA to do my personal care every 4-6 hours or so; don’t want to shlep there for every med. If the companion restrooms aren’t feasible for line meds, do you recall any indoor or shaded, fairly empty areas? We can use my tray as a work surface.
Shovan, what a nice thing to say! I will do my best to do this as gracefully as Kathy and Christamae.

Thanks to EVERYONE. My trip is starting to feel like it really will happen! I am working on a pre-trip, and I can make my ADRs next week.

Take care,
DizWisher aka Miri
 
Hi Laura. I followed your link. Very tough to potentially have two kids (and yourself) with mito. I was the only one of four kids, although my mom had several miscarriages and one sister has stamina issues that could be related.
I am treated through MDA, and mito is kind of lumped together, but also distinguished by person, since no two are the same. They also seem to use dysautonomia to describe the effect of mito on the brain and other systems (the non-nmd ones, with kidneys, liver, vision, and so on.) That’s usually, the easiest description for ppl w/o mito.
Technically, I’m a mitochondrial encephalomyopathy. Complex I covers many of my manifestations, but I have involvement that points to additional symptom complexes. I was originally classed as a MELAS, because of the strokes, seizures and acidosis (in my case, though, also renal tubular acidosis), but lack of dementia and inability to digest food as I hit my teens and early 20’s was more like a MNGIE. My MDA neurologist feels that I either have a complicated Complex I defect, with other complex or point defects, or that I’m simply my own syndrome initials. I’m clinically described as features of MELAS and MNGIE, plus I have a separate recessive immune deficiency, CVID. The muscle weakness has always been a major symptom. My mito cocktail includes supplementation only generally, with carnitine and coenzyme q-10, because I have such limited absorption enterally; by IV, we handle mostly damage control (feeding, seizure meds, pain meds, heart meds, blood transfusions, etc.)
This makes me feel really old, but dx of mito was rarely thought of when I was born, and I was originally dx’ed with NMD -NOS. After biopsy, the ragged red fibers made the mito pretty obvious, but the precise defect that caused it was not as priority, as all treatment is symptomatic and supportive anyway.
Sorry, so few people know mito, that I chat on and on to people who do. I belong to an MDA group, a vent users network, and my mom to a parents mito group. I know a couple of mitos via caringbridge and some from MDA at Mott Children’s, but at my age (31), there aren’t a whole lot of people with my type of mito-related problems still alive. It can be a very mean disease.
Listserve I generally avoid, because I really can’t keep up with the e-mail; my vision is not great (retinitis).
Please PM me, I’d like to know how you and your kids are doing. I can see some familiar patterns in Katie, especially. Have they had muscle biopsy yet? Have you guys been seen at Cleveland Clinic or Mayo? They have actual mito clinics, where they can better address the multi-factor issues of mitos, rather than MDA, which tends to follow the neuromuscular effects most (which is definitely useful, but mito can affect any system, and it can be hard to keep track of.)

Your son and daughter do sound like great kids. Were you at Disney for Thomas or Katie’s Make-A-Wish? That was my wish, which was over my 9th birthday, (scarily, 21 years ago!) It was amazing. But I haven’t been back since, so we are doing this trip. Thanks for the good wishes!

DizWisher, aka Miri
 














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