I have a problem with

[lillygator]

gator


I think that sums my point up nicely ,thanks

it seems as though your point has varied....

 

[AnaheimGirl]

JMCDAD,

I get what you're saying. I have never really thought of birthdays as such a big deal that they need to be celebrated for weeks or months at a time. We're going to WDW this fall, and our dd's 8th birthday will fall on one of the days we're there. We're not going there "for" her birthday (what an expensive gift that would be!), but we'll eat cake at some point during the week, possibly not on her actual Bday, depending on if/when we get P.S. for CRT. But if her Bday were the day before we left, and we had eaten cake at home, no, we wouldn't eat cake again and re-celebrate her birthday, just because we're at DW.

She might wear the "it's my birthday" button on the actual day (not sure if she'll want to, she doesn't like to call attention to herself), but she certainly won't wear it any other day we're there. To me, that would be a lie. To me, the actual Bday is the special day, and I'll find a way to make it special for her, no matter what she's doing that day. Her party may have to be scheduled on a different day due to school or whatever, but that doesn't mean she has 2 Bdays.

That said, I don't really care whether other people celebrate a birthday on the actual day or not, as long as it's within a reasonable time period. I know we all have different definitions of "reasonable time period", and I'm not going to debate that with anyone.

I wonder though, if the widespread practice of celebrating a Bday on other than the actual day HAS taken away from the magic of all WDW Bday celebrations. There have been several recent posts on these boards which indicated that CMs are no longer allowed to recognize guests Bdays (other than at restaurants). That is, no more free pins, T-shirts or fast passes handed out to the birthday child as he/she walks around the park. If this is true, what's the reason for the change? Could it be that there were too many "Bdays" on any given day? It's all good for a company to give out a few freebies now and then, but when too many people take advantage, it can get too expensive and they might have to end the practice completely. Note that I'm not saying for sure this is what happened, I'm just speculating.

 

[JMCDAD]

anaheimgirl
Thank you very much for your post
I know you both agree and disagreed on some points
But I am more appreciative that you understood what I was getting at

 

[lillygator]

anaheimgirl
Thank you very much for your post
I know you both agree and disagreed on some points
But I am more appreciative that you understood what I was getting at

so what are you "getting at"?

 

[JMCDAD]

read anaheimgirls post

 

[lillygator]

see that is just it - your op said one thing, then you seem to deviate a little from that. In fact, you seem to avoid answering the questions you don't like but are quick to respond to all those that agree with you.

ex - you never cleared up what you thought was a reasonable time frame...
and your original stand was day of....now you seem to be changing that.


IMO - I wouldn't be celebrating months off, that's not our style (now in the case of the overseas/Iraq situation I feel a little differently) so I agree about the months away issue....

Well, for your sake I hope you aren't there in October or December 'cuz we'll be celebrating fools and I wouldn't want to take away from your dinner in any way.

 

[JMCDAD]

Sorry I can't answer every question in every post to your satisfaction

Knock yourself out and celebrate

If you happen to be there in July we will be the ones celebrating my daughters bday once, on her bday.

The rest of the time we will just be enjoying everything WDW has to offer.
It will be tough but I am sure we can do it.

 

[lillygator]

Sorry I can't answer every question in every post to your satisfaction

you haven't even answered them let alone to my satisfaction...

like I said - you don't even try because I have repeatedly asked the same thing over and over...
you won't even clear up your stand on the issue.....

You sure are quick to respond to those that agree with you though....

 

[Nini]

I am going in October (10 - 14) with extended family. My dd3 will be 4 "officially" on 10/21. Am I going to be celebrating her bd at wdw?...YOU BETCHA!!!! It is a once in a lifetime opportunity for us to even GO to wdw all together, nevermind celebrate a bd there on purpose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mind you, I am not going to be celebrating it all week long as we have her cousins there as well. We will do the celebrating later in the week and will do something that allows the cousins to "join in" the celebration so it is special for all the kids. We are NOT unfeeling and insensitive to others because we want to celebrate our dd's bd at wdw!

I am neither offended nor comforted by the fact that it seems that ALL birthday celebrations are being considered illegal if they are not ON that specific day. We rarely celebrate birthdays on their day if they fall on a weekday anyway, so what difference does it make to make her birthday a little more "special" by a celebration there!?!

That is only my take on the sitch!

 

[AnaheimGirl]

you never cleared up what you thought was a reasonable time frame...

I'm not JMCDAD, but I just wanted to comment on "reasonable time frame" (yes, I know I said I wouldn't debate it, and that's not what I'm intending here.)

It's impossible to come up with a hard and fast rule as to what is a "reasonable time frame". It depends on the circumstances. If a birthday was a week before the trip, the child had his cake and party at home, got to pick his favorite restaurant to go to that night and had the waiters sing to him there, etc, etc, IMO, he's already celebrated his birthday, and IMO it's unreasonable for that child to re-celebrate at WDW a week later. On the other hand, if a parent has been out of town for an extended period, missed the birthday, and the family wants to celebrate it with cake and singing at DW when the parent returns, 6 months is reasonable.

 

[JMCDAD]

gator
you have asked alot of questions, I believe I have answered most of them, but you don't seem to understand me or when you get an answer that you don't like you gloss over it and just ask another question
I figured maybe reading another person's perspective that sums up most of what I am saying would help

Sorry if it didn't

 

[lillygator]

Ok – this is quite long…..but to see how well you answered…

I just want to clarify,although its been mentioned a few times, I know sometimes things get lost in all the posts, for those of you who responded about celebrating special days at different times. That has nothing to do with my original post, like I said you can choose to celebrate whatever you want whenever you want, I have 3 kids, I know all about having numerous parties around their days. I am talking about going into a restaurant or a park and saying its my child's bday today, when your childs bday is x months away.

original post...
so you are actually overhearing all these other families telling the CM's at the restaurants that "Today is ____'s birthday" or are you simply basing your opinion on "your friends that do it all the time"?
I think many people note it on their reservations, PS, AR's whatever, but I don't see people marching in and saying HEY it's time to celebrate someone in my party's occasion. and how do your children know that it isn't these other guests birthday's?

and I mean what is the big deal, these celebrations aren't taking away from your daughter's celebration is it? I mean, come on...I really don't think the majority of people are teaching their children to lie (now if it's months away, I see an issue there)....if you can celebrate everyone in your family's birthday on their exact day then more power to you...I find it hard to hold a birthday party on a weeknight or Sunday....

I give up
The point of my original posts keeps getting morphed into other things
Thanks to those who understood my point
I appreciate everyone's responses.

I don't think your OP is getting morphed....I understand what you are saying I am simply asking you HOW DO YOU KNOW that all the people celebrating birthday's or special occasion's aren't on their ACTUAL day? from your OP it sounds like you know this from "your friends that do it all the time"...

it is not possible to celebrate on the ACTUAL day for many many families/people....and I guess what your saying/implying in your OP is that the parks should only celebrate people's birthday's/occasion's on the ACTUAL day....since it takes away from your daughter's special day...

and again, JMO but I do think the majority of people celebrating are legitimely celebrating in a reasonable timeframe....sure you get the bad apples that take advantage but I don't think that most people do that.

moncindy


gator
All you have to do is read the forums on this site, heck, just read the posts in this thread to know that it is happening constantly.

still, in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter.....unless there is some sort of physical harm coming to a person I don't see why everyone feels the need to worry about what the Johnson's are doing...and I really don't see how it can take away from another families celebration unless they are afraid of being lumped into the category of *gasp* celebrating on a day other than the actual day!

I totally understand what the OP is saying but what got me the most was the "it's taking away from my kid" comment.

Thanks for all the replies I appreciate each of them

Grlpwrd, funny you say I am assuming this happens, did you read the thread ?
Its obviously not an assumption

I know I tried

The bottomline is we celebrate my daughters bday at disney because crazy and wacky as it seems, its actually her bday.

There is enough to do and see, and enough magic in Disney for us to not manipulate dates to force a make believe birthday at WDW.

But hey that just us.

so, in my DD's case, her birthday is 10/31, we will be having a dinner at 1900 Park Fare on 10/28 to celebrate her birthday....that is manipulating dates to force a make believe birthday?
We are going to WDW SPECIFICALLY for her birthday celebration, it is unfortunate that we can't go on 10/31 but that is the case....

what is your definition of a make believe birthday?

doodles

I know there are alot of posts but please actually read them before you posts insults and stuff.

I can't keep answering the same misrepresentations/questions over and over (i.e celebrating with your family or having a party on a different day has absolutley nothing to do with what I am talking about, I am talking about people walking into a restaurant or getting a pin at a park that says its my bday when their birhtday is not even near that day)

Thanks

But from your OP it doesn't sound like you were talking months away?! Especially since you said your other children were within two weeks and you didn't celebrate theirs while there.

And - like I asked you before - how do you know it isn't their actual day (or close to it) - yes you responded with look at this thread this board even, but for the majority aren't most people saying they celebrate pretty close to their actual dates?

gator
My point was my other 2 children's bdays were only 2 weeks away and we don't do it.

And no, I don't agree, the jist I get was it doesn't matter when my childs bday is, if I choose to tell disney its this day, thats my business.

The ironic part is that celebrating a bday a disney is not a big deal to us, we just love being there for all the obvious reasons. We happen to have a child that has a bday when we go and we celebrate it.

I just feel it a bit of a contradiction that people are saying on one hand I don;t want anything out of it maybe just a little extra special treatment for my child, but on the other hand, every child can do this every day according to them so it kind of takes away from the "special"

GRL
So you read the thread 4 times and Doodles is on the money? even though he/she talks about having a bday party not on your kids bday which I addressed multiple times has nothing to do with what I am referring to

Perhaps 5th time will be the charm

BBGIRL
I liked your analogy of the taking of the free stuff.
Be careful though they will start calling you the free stuff police

bunch

a) because the family next us was quite loud about it when we were there once the waitress left

b) then people I know told me that they did it multiple times on their trip to WDW

c) then I read it on mulitple forums on this site

d) then I read it multiple times on this thread

We don't expect or want anything special....we are going on our October trip ONLY because of DD's birthday so we are celebrating ourselves....

and your original point was that you were miffed that people were celebrating a birthday not on the actual day and that you felt it took away from DD's celebration. Which you stated in your original post. Then you are saying you understand it can't be on the actual day but you had a problem with it being not close to the actual day, which you never defined the not close but considering you said your other children's birthday's were within two weeks and you wouldn't let them celebrate there (poor kids) I would imagine it to be within days....


I guess Disney is in the wrong too because they are celebrating the land's 50th for how many days??? And according to you they should have only celebrated it on the actual anniversary of the 50th!!

gator

yeah "poor kids" they are only going to be in Disney for a week, what fun is that?

I think that sums my point up nicely ,thanks

I don't mean it like that - I mean, since you only go over one DD's birthday, it's a shame they never get to celebrate theirs in a Disney atmosphere...

You still never seem to clear the questions up do you?

it seems as though your point has varied....

anaheimgirl
Thank you very much for your post
I know you both agree and disagreed on some points
But I am more appreciative that you understood what I was getting at

so what are you "getting at"?

read anaheimgirls post

see that is just it - your op said one thing, then you seem to deviate a little from that. In fact, you seem to avoid answering the questions you don't like but are quick to respond to all those that agree with you.

ex - you never cleared up what you thought was a reasonable time frame...
and your original stand was day of....now you seem to be changing that.


IMO - I wouldn't be celebrating months off, that's not our style (now in the case of the overseas/Iraq situation I feel a little differently) so I agree about the months away issue....

Well, for your sake I hope you aren't there in October or December 'cuz we'll be celebrating fools and I wouldn't want to take away from your dinner in any way.

you haven't even answered them let alone to my satisfaction...

like I said - you don't even try because I have repeatedly asked the same thing over and over...
you won't even clear up your stand on the issue.....

You sure are quick to respond to those that agree with you though....

gator
you have asked alot of questions, I believe I have answered most of them, but you don't seem to understand me or when you get an answer that you don't like you gloss over it and just ask another question
I figured maybe reading another person's perspective that sums up most of what I am saying would help

Sorry if it didn't

 

[lillygator]

you just seemed to avoid or else defer to someone's response who agreed with you rather than finish what you started.

 

[JMCDAD]

Your right that was quite long

 

[DisneyMomx7]

Sorry I can't answer every question in every post to your satisfaction

Knock yourself out and celebrate

If you happen to be there in July we will be the ones celebrating my daughters bday once, on her bday.

The rest of the time we will just be enjoying everything WDW has to offer.
It will be tough but I am sure we can do it.

Well two of our kids will be celebrating their birthday when we are down there. One's actual birthday will be during our time frame and the other ones is within 3 days of when we are leaving - we'll celebrate both. We're also going to be there for other dds birthday in January - that one was just pure luck as DH decided to run the marathon this year - we normally never go at that time. So how will you know that its only your child's birthday. When my ds is actually celebrating his birthday will you think he is faking it? Also despite what some have said last year we were there on dd's birthday (exact) and she did receive some free fast passes. We ordered our own dessert to have delivered to our room - doing same thing for ds and dd this year, but the restaurants always went out of their way with a free dessert or phone call from Goofy. We never asked nor expected it but it really was nice. Sorry if this takes away from your childs celebration.

 

[lillygator]

Your right that was quite long

see what I mean!

 

[JMCDAD]

gator
That was a little joke

Count how many times people asked how do you know this is happening
or
Don't you have birhtday parties at home, not on their day

After I addressed both of these numerous times, I guess they think I didn't answer them either even though I answered it over and over.

Like it was mentioned its hard to say what time frame, obviously if there are circumstances (Iraq) thats different. I personally wouldn't do it unless it fell during my vacation. I can see the week before or after I guess........
We are going to WDW as a family and celebrating my daugthers bday because it happens to fall during that time.

 

[lillygator]

gator
That was a little joke

.

I realize that - my point was you avoided answering anything.....

 

[lillygator]

why don't we all just celebrate that fact that we will be at WDW and have a great time and not worry about what the next table is doing....

now of course, if there is pyhsical harm, food fighting or something along those lines I respectfully reserve my right to change my mind....

 

[DawnaJean]

Originally posted by Lillygator

I guess Disney is in the wrong too because they are celebrating the land's 50th for how many days??? And according to you they should have only celebrated it on the actual anniversary of the 50th!!


Too funny...