I got ran over by a scooter!

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I am sorry to hear about this....some people :crazy: .I think you should have to bring or posses some sort of documentation saying you require one of these electric carts. And being obese is not a reason.Just becuase people stuff there face with 36 jelly donuts for breakfast then eat 6 chickens for lunch and wrap the day up with a side of beef and a 55 gallon drum of ice cream does not deserve them. I see people all the time ride these things when the only thing that ales them is lazyness. If you have a bad knee, bad back anything of that sort, no questions. But when you are getting one because your belly is 3 inches above you ankles then you just need to walk, it's what you need anyway. :furious: :furious: :furious:
 
SplshMtnLvr28 said:
Ok, to all the people that are freaking out about the OP being offended that the ECV person then got up and walked, keep your pants on. Once I was getting on Splash Mountain, and a girl in an ECV and her family that were waiting in the exit side got in the same log as I was in. When we were done with the ride and getting out, she got out and then walked over to her ECV, with the rest of her party. After we were out of the attractions by the bathrooms, she got out, and her little brother started driving the ECV. They were going to Liberty Square, and so were we, and she walked the entire way. We lost them for a bit, but we came back to Splash Mountain, and this time her sister/mother/other female in their party was in the ECV waiting in the handicapped area. I understand that people in ECVs can't walk or whatever, but lots of people get them because they're too damn lazy to walk (yes, walking in WDW, what a freaking concept) and don't want to wait in lines. So yes, if you run over my foot, please apologize. If you get up and start walking, please have some sort of disability, don't be a lazy :crazy2: in perfect health that doesn't want to walk. :goodvibes

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Considering the cost of renting a scooter, I think this is a lot more rare than most people think. Considering the amount of time I've been in handicapped waiting areas at parks (Disney and non), I've never seen this happen once. I'd also be very curious to know the ages of the children driving this ECV supposedly, because WDW has a VERY strict age policy on driving and riding in one of the rented ones and the CM's have NO issue with stopping anyone underage from driving them.
 
Bliss22 said:
I am sorry to hear about this....some people :crazy: .I think you should have to bring or posses some sort of documentation saying you require one of these electric carts. And being obese is not a reason.Just becuase people stuff there face with 36 jelly donuts for breakfast then eat 6 chickens for lunch and wrap the day up with a side of beef and a 55 gallon drum of ice cream does not deserve them. I see people all the time ride these things when the only thing that ales them is lazyness. If you have a bad knee, bad back anything of that sort, no questions. But when you are getting one because your belly is 3 inches above you ankles then you just need to walk, it's what you need anyway. :furious: :furious: :furious:

Well, this looks like a deliberate attempt to stir things up. How do you know these overweight people don't have disabilities? I'm betting they do. Have you ever thought about the fact that some disabilities could contribute to the extra weight?
 
WaltD4Me said:
Yes, here we go........

You can explain all you want, but I don't understand why this part would upset you? Or, more accurately, why it is STILL upsetting you. I can understand at the time, when you are hurt and angry, but to still be bringing up the fact that she walked into the store without really knowing anything about her? (except that she is rude of course!) I have a feeling if she had ridden the scooter into the store you would have been complaining she was blocking the aisles. You were upset that the woman rolled on your foot and then was rude about, and that's perfectly justified...the rest is not.

OF COURSE this woman absolutely should have apologized, but being angry that she walked into the store is very judgemental and has NOTHING to do with the foot and rudeness.

I completely agree.
 

We're going in Dec, and due to an old knee injury that doesn't allow me to walk very far and stand a long time without a lot of pain, I will be using an ECV most, if not all, of the time. God forbid I hit anyone with it and if I do I would apologize (and probably cry because I would feel so awful.) I don't look disabled. I just look fat. Even though I am fat, I am not lazy. I work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, and I look forward to my vacation. If you look at me, you might think I didn't need the ECV, and I don't use one at home since I work on the computer and don't stand a lot when working, but to enjoy my time at the parks, I do need it.

I went to Disney World once and refused to use a scooter because of pride and spent 4 days sitting on benches while everyone else in the family had fun until the last day---when I decided enough was enough and I wanted to at least see one park. What a difference! It was the first day I had fun and actually was happy to be there because it was the first day I didn't hurt so bad I wanted to cry all day.

The second time we went I used an ECV the whole trip and had the time of my life! Yes, I stood in line if I could and only used the wheelchair entrance when I had too much pain to wait with the masses. I'll do the same thing this time. So you may see me on the ECV sometimes and you may see me stand and even walk around sometimes, and it may appear as if I do not need the ECV to you...but trust me, things are not always as they seem.

I feel just as strongly as anyone else about people using ECV's that don't need them, because then there aren't any for people that do need one. But I am not going to judge someone just because I see them walk around. Now if they start turning cartwheels, then they're gonna get a look. But I will not say anything to them.

Shame on that woman for not even apologizing! That was inexcusable! Some people have no manners, but that's not just people on ECVs...goes for people who hit you with strollers, crowd you in line, run over you with heelies, or just plain bump into you and don't apologize. Anytime you even slightly bump someone you owe them an apology. And her son was equally rude, but then she raised him presumably, so that's probably where he got rudeness from.

Please don't judge me too harshly because I can walk...believe me, I would much rather be skipping through the parks that be saddled with the ECV.

Sara
 
Bliss22 said:
I am sorry to hear about this....some people :crazy: .I think you should have to bring or posses some sort of documentation saying you require one of these electric carts. And being obese is not a reason.Just becuase people stuff there face with 36 jelly donuts for breakfast then eat 6 chickens for lunch and wrap the day up with a side of beef and a 55 gallon drum of ice cream does not deserve them. I see people all the time ride these things when the only thing that ales them is lazyness. If you have a bad knee, bad back anything of that sort, no questions. But when you are getting one because your belly is 3 inches above you ankles then you just need to walk, it's what you need anyway. :furious: :furious: :furious:


:sad2: shameful
 
Bliss22 said:
I am sorry to hear about this....some people :crazy: .I think you should have to bring or posses some sort of documentation saying you require one of these electric carts. And being obese is not a reason.Just becuase people stuff there face with 36 jelly donuts for breakfast then eat 6 chickens for lunch and wrap the day up with a side of beef and a 55 gallon drum of ice cream does not deserve them. I see people all the time ride these things when the only thing that ales them is lazyness. If you have a bad knee, bad back anything of that sort, no questions. But when you are getting one because your belly is 3 inches above you ankles then you just need to walk, it's what you need anyway. :furious: :furious: :furious:

If they're like that then they're probably not physically able to walk. :guilty:
 
Bliss22 said:
I am sorry to hear about this....some people :crazy: .I think you should have to bring or posses some sort of documentation saying you require one of these electric carts. And being obese is not a reason.Just becuase people stuff there face with 36 jelly donuts for breakfast then eat 6 chickens for lunch and wrap the day up with a side of beef and a 55 gallon drum of ice cream does not deserve them. I see people all the time ride these things when the only thing that ales them is lazyness. If you have a bad knee, bad back anything of that sort, no questions. But when you are getting one because your belly is 3 inches above you ankles then you just need to walk, it's what you need anyway. :furious: :furious: :furious:

Shame on you! Did you ever think that some people take medications that can cause rapid weight gain???? I suppose when someone gains weight because they are on high doses of steroids it is their fault that they gained the weight. These same people have issues with their appearances when they are out and about. They do not need someone as judgemental as you to remind them how they look.
What an awful thing to say.
 
Bliss22 said:
I am sorry to hear about this....some people :crazy: .I think you should have to bring or posses some sort of documentation saying you require one of these electric carts. And being obese is not a reason.Just becuase people stuff there face with 36 jelly donuts for breakfast then eat 6 chickens for lunch and wrap the day up with a side of beef and a 55 gallon drum of ice cream does not deserve them. I see people all the time ride these things when the only thing that ales them is lazyness. If you have a bad knee, bad back anything of that sort, no questions. But when you are getting one because your belly is 3 inches above you ankles then you just need to walk, it's what you need anyway. :furious: :furious: :furious:

Who do you know that eats like this??? I'm sure you're just trying to get a point across but, if some one is as obese as you've described then they'd probably need an ECV! They surely wouldn't be abusing the policy by renting one! I've seen plenty of overweight people, myself included, who can traverse the parks without a problem. However, there are others where the weight is just too much for their knees, hips and ankles. Do you mean to tell me that they shouldn't come and enjoy DW?

Why is it assumed that overweight people eat 55 gallon drums of ice cream and whole sides of beef? Ever heard of thyroid? Ever heard of medication that slows the metabolism? Or heck, just a slow metabolism without the meds!
I eat 3 squares a day and not large portions. I work 5 days a week at a job that requires me to stand and walk my whole shift and yet here I am. I know others who eat and eat and eat, sit on their butts and they're thin as rails. :confused3
To quote my other posts, I know you are being human by saying such rude things and maybe you're a bit misinformed :teacher: . But, I'm here to give you an education.
 
Why is it assumed that overweight people eat 55 gallon drums of ice cream and whole sides of beef? Ever heard of thyroid? Ever heard of medication that slows the metabolism? Or heck, just a slow metabolism without the meds!

It's true. My history teacher last year was naturally thin, but she she had to take medicene for her thyroid so she gained some weight.
 
"Please don't judge me too harshly because I can walk...believe me, I would much rather be skipping through the parks that be saddled with the ECV.

Sara"

Northie-I really agreed with this comment. 2 years ago, my sister and I went to WDW. We had been saving and planning for a year. A month before we left, I had a back injury that left me unable to walk further than a few feet at a time without doubling over. Rather than cancel our trip, I rented a wheelchair. I am a normally healthy, average weight, mid 30's woman who is now wondering what the heck people were saying about me when I parked the wheelchair and walked into a bathroom!!

OP-you are correct in being upset that the woman parked on your foot and did not apologize. I would have been horrified that I injured another person!!
 
I think you should have to bring or posses some sort of documentation saying you require one of these electric carts.

And who exactly would decide this? My mom uses an ECV at WDW because of bad knees, but she doesnt have a handicapped sticker that she uses at home. She simply cannot do ALL the walking that is required at WDW, but should pay for a doctor's appointment to get some sort of note? That's ridiculous.

And when did weight come into this? The OP said nothing about the woman being fat, thin or otherwise?
 
Karnak said:
In my not so humble opinion, anyone who drives an ECV where adults and CHILDREN are walking are at fault if they run into any person, walking or standing. If I drive my automobile into another automobile, IT'S MY FAULT! Period.

The driver of an ECV is at fault anytime there is contact with anyone. If the person really needs the ECV, that's still no excuse for running into anyone. I'd like to say to such a person, "If you are going to drive that thing, learn how to steer it! People should not have to watch out for you just because you are disabled in some way!"
Actually the driver is not at fault any time they hit a pedestrian. There are circumstances where they can't avoid it happening such as when a child runs out in front of them.
Truth is we all should be looking out for each other whether walking or using an ECV or power WC. Btw I can steer my PWC quite well but still have clipped people who have darted in front of me. I do apologize. The person was rude and should have apologized and made sure the OP was ok. The OP was rude as well in making a comment about the fact she walked into the store under her own power, but I can understand her rudeness more than that of the person on the ECV.
 
WaltD4Me said:
Yes, here we go........

You can explain all you want, but I don't understand why this part would upset you? Or, more accurately, why it is STILL upsetting you. I can understand at the time, when you are hurt and angry, but to still be bringing up the fact that she walked into the store without really knowing anything about her? (except that she is rude of course!) I have a feeling if she had ridden the scooter into the store you would have been complaining she was blocking the aisles. You were upset that the woman rolled on your foot and then was rude about, and that's perfectly justified...the rest is not.

OF COURSE this woman absolutely should have apologized, but being angry that she walked into the store is very judgemental and has NOTHING to do with the foot and rudeness.




Sure I was being judgemental. I admit it. If she were in the store "blocking the isles" as you said, I would not have even noticed. There are so many crowds, wheelchairs, strollers etc. at Disney. I guess I have learned to work around it all. I am with stroller myself! This woman acted like it was my fault for not looking out for her. Of course I was upset to see her walk perfectly in to the store after rudely running over me. She is just lucky she did not hurt my daughter who was (thankfully) on the other side of me. I would have really let her have it then!!!!!!! :furious: Judgemental.... sure....but at that moment , I was angry and seeing her walk in made me think she was not really disabled.

Here is a question what am I supposed to assume?? I have never really given it much thought but, if you see someone on a scooter would you like me to assume they are disabled or not? It seems you can not win either way.
 
CindyBella said:
Sure I was being judgemental. I admit it. If she were in the store "blocking the isles" as you said, I would not have even noticed. There are so many crowds, wheelchairs, strollers etc. at Disney. I guess I have learned to work around it all. I am with stroller myself! This woman acted like it was my fault for not looking out for her. Of course I was upset to see her walk perfectly in to the store after rudely running over me. She is just lucky she did not hurt my daughter who was (thankfully) on the other side of me. I would have really let her have it then!!!!!!! :furious: Judgemental.... sure....but at that moment , I was angry and seeing her walk in made me think she was not really disabled.

Here is a question what am I supposed to assume?? I have never really given it much thought but, if you see someone on a scooter would you like me to assume they are disabled or not? It seems you can not win either way.

I'm not getting what you're saying here . . . are you saying that people should only use ECV's if they are disabled enough not to be able to walk limited distances? Is there some CindyBella rule that "okay, you're disabled enough to use one, but you're not because you can walk a ways, sorry"?

I know you were mad at the woman for being rude, but you're WAAAY off base about the "getting up and walking" thing. If you had chewed her out when she parked on your foot, that's COMPLETELY understandable. But to then later walk over and degrade someone who most likely does have a disability is inexcusable.
 
CindyBella said:
Here is a question what am I supposed to assume?? I have never really given it much thought but, if you see someone on a scooter would you like me to assume they are disabled or not? It seems you can not win either way.

I'm not understanding your statement or question. Of course, you should assume they are disabled. It still sounds like you are assuming this woman wasn't disabled because she could walk. As many others have posted, being able to walk does not mean someone isn't disabled.

What do you mean you can't win either way?
 
A little over a year ago we were in Epcot, near the entrance of WS. The place was empty. BAM! I young man was doing wheelies and racing his female companion while he was in a wheelchair. (She was running). The man lost control and hit my DH from behind with FULL FORCE.
DH is a runner, so has strong legs. And he went flying head first towards a railing and bushes. He somehow was able to keep from falling head first into the bushes.
DH had a bloody gash on his legs.
The young man fell forward and caught himself who both legs, straddling the wheelchair on his back, since he caught it as it was flipping over his head.
What did the couple do? The man muttered a soft, "Sorry" as they sped off, obviously figuring they were in trouble. The gal acted like nothing happened. They were both young and athletic. I doubt he needed a wheelchair. Esp when I saw him use his lower and upper body as he did to prevent himself from falling or flipping the wheelchair.

We immediately found a manager and they contacted security. We gave a description and we kept seeing security hunt for this couple as we walked to th eother side of WS. Luckily we had a PS and DH was able to sit down. But I thought with that brusing, bleeding, swelling gash he may need a wheelchair himself. Like most men he toughed it out, even though he was limping so bad. I did not think security would find the couple as they were really truckin' through WS.

I would guess they may have ditched the wheelchair or left through the exit/entrance past UK.

In a case like ours, I strongly suggest having a CM contact security right away. Had they hit a child or elderly person, they would have been seriously hurt.

And my mother has been legally blind for years. And I have friends with various health issues they suffer from, with or without wheelchairs. I fully understand what it is like to have a not so obvious handicap and others wonder why some "take advantage" when they really are not.
 
Here is a question what am I supposed to assume?? I have never really given it much thought but, if you see someone on a scooter would you like me to assume they are disabled or not? It seems you can not win either way.

I am not quite understanding what you mean either, but I guess I would say you can assume whatever you want....but know that your assumption based simply upon seeing someone in an ECV may or may not be correct, so without knowing the person or their situation you probably shouldn't be so quick to judge based upon one short encounter.

Again, my mother is I guess NOT technically disabled. She can walk, but her ability is limited. She can get up and walk around a store, but cannot walk an entire day...or entire hour for that matter, around Disney. It baffles me why people cannot understand this concept.....Just because you can get up and walk a little does not mean you can walk far or for very long. Sheesh!
 
BlindTyldak said:
I'm not getting what you're saying here . . . are you saying that people should only use ECV's if they are disabled enough not to be able to walk limited distances? Is there some CindyBella rule that "okay, you're disabled enough to use one, but you're not because you can walk a ways, sorry"?

I know you were mad at the woman for being rude, but you're WAAAY off base about the "getting up and walking" thing. If you had chewed her out when she parked on your foot, that's COMPLETELY understandable. But to then later walk over and degrade someone who most likely does have a disability is inexcusable.


There is not any "CindyBella Rule" Hahaha but maybe there should be some kind of regulations. I would never "degrade" anyone. But I will not get all run over by rude people.....pun intended.

She couldn't walk around the theme park...needed a ECV or ECV....ran over my foot. She however could walk into Tinkerbells Treasures. I guess I am only thinking of foot....(which is healing nicely ..thanks ;) ) If she had been walking during the collision, this would have not happened.



Incase it was not clear earlier, When she got off the scooter, she looked right at me and I again said you actually ran over my foot that was painful, and then couldn't get a single sorry out?? Then to see you WALK in...... Then I walked away...
 
Almost the same thing happened to my DBF on our May trip. We havd judt come back from one of the parks (it was the last bus of the night, coming back to ASMo so you KNOW it was crowded). This mob of people are walking through the lobby of the hotel in ONE direction, and this woman on a scooter comes plowing through the crowd in the opposite directions, runs over a little girl, her you ger brother, and my DBF's foot. All she did was honk her little horn and keep going. She never stopped to apologize, or excuse herself. Just left the kids crying and their parents, myself, DBF, and several others in shock. It's not like she didn't realize it - I mean she literally ran this girl over and knocked her brother to the floor. And running over DBF's foot caused her scooter to actually rise off the ground. But she just sped off into the food court.
 
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