I dont like on line reservation system...to easy to cheat

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I personally know someone going in June, who has 17 table service reservations, over the span of 6 days.

Simply because of the free dining, and his ability to make the reservations unchecked. He claims he will cancel them as needed when the time gets closer.

But that is still tying up a large number of tables for almost 70 days.

I vent because it is 84 days out for me, and almost everything is full for "normal" eating times.
 
there will always be folks like that and there will always be a way to do it.I'd love to see a deposit fee for ADRs.If it caused Disney a lot of money it would be addressed so it must not cause too many problems.
 
This is one of the reasons I would like Free Dining to go away. Anyone else notice how many empty tables you can find in a lot of restaurants? They have to keep them open for those with ADRs even when they are no shows.
 

Remember that WDW has a pretty good handle on their no-show rate, and that *is* considered when they put the spots into the system for reservations.

The truth is that if everyone with a reservation showed up at a given restaurant one night, the place would be over-run and even those with reservations would have very annoying waits.
 
I have yet to see restaurants with tons of empty tables. Disney would most definitely nip that in the bud quickly! I also don't like the deposit idea as I do dxdp and that money would be astinomical even if it was just a deposit. Plus I have young kids and sometimes I need to cancel and we do room service instead. Believe me when I tell you, you would rather have some no shows that families with young children showing up when their kids can definately not handle sitting through a meal. It would not be nice for anybody dining in that restaurant. People already complain about the few kids that have parents not parenting...
 
WDW will eventually notice that he is over booked and will cancel them all, its happened many times and even been reported on this board..
 
Our waitress at Le Cellier said that was the main reason they were going to signature dining for the evening meal, because of no shows. We ate there at lunch in December and half of the tables were empty and remained so.
 
I personally know someone going in June, who has 17 table service reservations, over the span of 6 days.

Simply because of the free dining, and his ability to make the reservations unchecked. He claims he will cancel them as needed when the time gets closer.

But that is still tying up a large number of tables for almost 70 days.

I vent because it is 84 days out for me, and almost everything is full for "normal" eating times.

I really hate when people do that! I've done it for maybe 2 or 3 hours, but only once or twice, and then only while I got a confirmation from one of our party about preferences.
 
He might want to check to see if his reservations are still there. I noticed with the new latest system when I booked a reservation within an hr of another one, the system would ask me which reservation I wanted. Then cancel the other one.
 
Would it be that hard to toggle something in the system that just doesn't allow people to book more than one ADR within a certain period of time? (Let's say within 2 hrs.)
 
He might want to check to see if his reservations are still there. I noticed with the new latest system when I booked a reservation within an hr of another one, the system would ask me which reservation I wanted. Then cancel the other one.

No. The system no longer cancels the other one. It asks you whether you WANT to cancel the other one, and gives you the choice not to. And then lets you know that you have two ADRs at the same time and to cancel whichever one you don't need ASAP. But - so far, anyway - it doesn't cancel any for you.

I only know this because I've made so many changes that - to be sure I get my time slots when making those changes - I've had to double-book some places until all of my new ADRs are made, and then go in and cancel each duplicate individually a few minutes later.
 
Would it be that hard to toggle something in the system that just doesn't allow people to book more than one ADR within a certain period of time? (Let's say within 2 hrs.)

The problem with that is when you have larger parties. There are 7 of us. If 3 of us go one direction and four another direction...or 2/2/3...then we wouldn't be able to make more than one ADR for the same time period. We actually have this situation more than once on our trip.
 
The system does point out if you have something within an hour already. I don't think it will let you do that. But there is nothing preventing you from booking a breakfast lunch and dinner everyday because some people do actually have that many sit downs (not us!). I was doing ADR's and we are splitting up one day for dinner since DD 5 is afraid of characters. The system would not let me make and ADR for 3 and a separate ADR for 2 for around the same time so I just made the ADR for my DH and 2 kids under his name. Woudl have been tough though if our ADR window wasn't open because I would have been working under the reservation number if it was + 10.
 
If the system did not allow the type people who would do that to do it,they would just have another party make ADRs too.I agree Disney will make policy changes to combat misuse of the ADR system when they see a drop in $$$.


I like the idea of those folks showing up at one of the 2 places they have ressies for and being told they were canceled:rotfl:
 
This gets brought up every now and then around these parts, and sometimes gets a bit heated (ok, it was once... :p). Unfortunately, some people will always take advantage of a system for their own benefit.

Another unfortunately, there is no better solution that handles the abusers while not tripping up the "proper" users.

Requiring CC holds on all ADRs (something tossed around quite a bit) would hugely limit potential reservations from those who do not want all their information out there (or simply do not trust online security to protect said information). Since only very few locations required CC holds now, they can easily skirt that issue by simply not choosing the 6 or so places.

Limiting based on resort reservation wouldn't work either, since there are many people who make reservations at restaurants that aren't staying on-site. Also, it would limit the ability for people to meet up for a meal with others that aren't staying with them.

Lastly, limiting based on email sign-in just wouldn't work either, since often times groups split up for a meal or two, and with one person doing all the reservations, they're going to appear to be double-booked, but in reality they wouldn't be (and this is the core of my hatred.. yes, hatred of the "auto-cancelling" CMs, cutting off the nose to spite the face never works out well).

However, there could be a solution utilizing "sub-parties" where the user could specify the name of the primary person showing up at each. This may help a ton with the last point... hm. Essentially, it would require a second name (which gets added to a dropdown list to make it easier for future ones) that will be "responsible" for that reservation. If your group of Bob, Sally, John, and Mary were splitting up, you could put Bob in "charge" of one reservation, and Mary in "charge" of the other. Allowing a single Disney site login to make valid reservations for different group compositions. It could still be exploited (but any system can be), but it would protect those that split their groups "legally" pretty well. It wouldn't be that difficult either, since the majority of the core systems are already in place (the notify if conflict primarily, and the ability to add a different name to the dining reservation wouldn't be that hard to modify.) They would have to make it so you can't change that name once it's in place though, to prevent trading and possible selling of the reservations (which is how the system works now, you can't change the name of an exisiting reservation).
 
Absolutely agree with the above. The other scenario is large groups who need to split down. We are going with 8 and I'm prepared to split 4 and 4 if we need to but would still like the ressies at the same or as close to the same time as possible at the same restaurant.

So I guess from what is being said that won't be possible to do? I guess I need to go play around with the dining reservation system more. We do have two reservation numbers so is it possible to get around it that way? I need to get this figured out before Monday!
 
Absolutely agree with the above. The other scenario is large groups who need to split down. We are going with 8 and I'm prepared to split 4 and 4 if we need to but would still like the ressies at the same or as close to the same time as possible at the same restaurant.

So I guess from what is being said that won't be possible to do? I guess I need to go play around with the dining reservation system more. We do have two reservation numbers so is it possible to get around it that way? I need to get this figured out before Monday!
For now, you're going to have to use two different logins to make the split reservations. The resort confirmation won't matter, but the login's primary name will. (And a different phone number is also ideal). Technically, they shouldn't be touching any reservations made and confirmed, but there are many reports of CMs doing just that even if it's a "valid" or "legal" double-booking (which splitting a party certainly would be).
 
Oh thanks! Good to know. I'll have to register my DH with his cell and then I should be good to go in case I need to split.
 
As long as Disney permits guests to hold multiple restaurant reservations, this is going to happen.

The online system does point out when you make a conflicting reservation (within an hour), but it does not REQUIRE you to cancel one. You can choose to cancel the older reservation or keep both reservations.

As noted above, there are legitimate reasons for someone having to make two reservations at or near the same time.
 















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