I am about to cry!

Liltx

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I am so sad. Looks like no Disney for me this year. My husband and I have gone every year since we first met. But this year the house needs to be painted and new garage doors and new carpet. We are also going to Charleston to visit my brother at the naval base this summer. But I was still planning to go in October. Now I am trying to convince my husband that we can just charge the flight, room, and tickets. He not buying it, we have never kept a balance before and he doesn't want to start now. How can I convince him it is worth it? Or is it really worth it? Any ideas?

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Mickey I miss you!!!!!!
 
I do not know how expensive of trips you generally take but be very, very flexible and offer your husband cheaper options on a trip...cut the number of days you go, cut the hotel price and stay at an All Stars or off site with excellent internet deals you can get some good places for not very much....cut the big meal budgets and eat fast food in the parks..offer him an alternative plan of HOW YOU CAN GO TO DISNEY CHEAPER AND STILL DO ALL THE THINGS YOU NEED TO DO AT HOME AND VISIT YOUR BROTHER....lots of good money saving trip tips on these boards..hope this helps some....:D :D :D
 
I agree with Mouser

Any Disney is better than no disney at all!!


Go for a few days!

We always stay at ALMo or even off site

But if you want to go, go cheaper - convince your DH that it is better to go cheap (does he love Disney as much as you? if he does it will be much easier to convince him).. We went last year - I convinced my DH that we could afford to go again this year - we thought that we would have no money to come with but with a bit of planning in economics you would be surprised how much money you can save (even by saving change from your purse).

Sorry to go on but if we can do it with 2 DChildren then anyone can.


We love ASMo and I think you can get really good rates on the Budget board...

Good Luck :D :D :D
 
Liltx, I think it's wonderful that you've managed to avoid getting into the credit trap! Bravo!!! It took us a looooong time to get back to that and I wouldn't give it up for anything now! So my vote is to see what you can afford and if you can't manage a cheap trip this year, then just wait and look forward to a future trip. Perhaps May? It's not as far off as another October away, low crowds and the Epcot Flower and Garden Festival! I know it's hard now... very hard to wait. But you will be glad that you waited in the long run, if you really can't swing it right now.

We went to Disney a couple of times before kids, then not for 10 years, largely due to financial strains, from overspending beyond our means earlier. Once we were able to start taking vacations again, we were really able to enjoy much mroe frequent vacations... no debt! :) If you stick with it, it's very likely that you'll be able to say the same soon. So join your husband as a team and plan together within your budget and goals. Wish you well! :cool:
 

Thanks guys for making me feel better. I hope I didn't sound like a brat in my post. It just has always been a very speciatime for my husband and I. We don't have any kids yet so we are pretty free financially. Disney is the only vacation we both enjoy equally as well. My husband is a scuba fanatic and I am completely terified. I will take your suggestions and tell my husband, he is a very generous man and I am very lucky to have him. I did see in the paper today 5 nights at the allstars with airfare and tickets for $576 per person. Is this a good deal? Sounds like it to me. We haven't stayed at the allstars yet. Maybe we should wait until Jan. and go on his christmas bonus. Thanks for all of your help.
 
Any chance you could attach a visit to WDW to your trip to Charleston? It's worth a try :).
 
$1100+ seems extremely high to me for 5 days at the All Stars and airfare for 2. As with most Disney package deals, it's a lot cheaper to buy the various parts separately.

With advance planning, depending on where you are flying from, airline tickets should be $150-$300 per person, so even if you had to pay $300 per person for airline tickets, that would be over $100/night at the All Stars, which is more than during peak season.

Oh, I just saw that this included "tickets." Do you mean Hopper passes, or what? Maybe if you let us know as well as where you are flying from, someone can tell you the value of the parts purchased separately. Please include your travel dates too, because that will determine the All Stars rate.
 
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I just moved the question to the resort board about the package deal. The tickets were the ultimate hoppers which we usually don't buy. Thanks for your help. I am from San Antonio, TX. Loving my hot weather already just not my water bill. Thanks for the idea about combining trips but we are going to Charleston for 11 days and my husband already thinks his company will crumble without him for that long. Poor baby doesn't know he is only that important to me, bless his heart.
 
Walt's 100th Birthday celebration starts in October. There will be new parades & special events. You can't miss that, right?;)
 
Check out the fares that USAir and some of the others are offering for one full fare and the companion flies for $30 round trip. Also, think Priceline. Although I don't know how things are in Texam, you sometimes can find sales/auctions for construction items and you might want to check those out to buy at least your materials at a discount. Be sure to check BBB when contracting and bid lower. If somebody wants to work badly enough you might get a better price. And, I don't know where it is right now, but I have an e-mail address for somebody who buys furniture/carpeting in the Carolinas at a discount. I'll look later and try and post it.
 
Have you considered going in Jan. It's only a few months later than October, so your summer brother visit and this trip would be six months apart. They usually have pretty good airfare specials at this time of year, it's off-season, crowds are low, and it's a nice thing to look forward to after the christmas rushing around before spring.

This past Jan, my family of 4 flew for $426! It is possible...

Good Luck!
 
Hey, Liltx - I live in San Antonio too.

Could you cut costs with your home improvements? Here in SA there are people who will do things at less of a cost than the expensive chains. Check into cutting costs with your home improvements. Do you work outside the home? If not, could you take a job with temp agencies during this summer to save enough $$ for your trip?

We have done Priceline for air tickets and had to make only 1 stop at IAH for about an hour and a half layover before heading to Orlando. When we went in December of last year I found a great rate of $134 on airline tickets (that was cheaper than the previous year's Priceline!).

Do you have children?

Liltx, you can email me if you want too - us San Antonioans DISers have to stick together: cheryl@hotard.net.
 
Go with the All Stars, if you can swing it, go in Sept where they are having special deals for $49. Shorten your time there for maybe 4 days and just go to 2 parks instead of 4. Eat at the food court instead of the full sit down restaurants. Have some food with you for breakfast of snacks in your room.

To save more money, I would drive there instead of fly, unless you're getting a great deal that you can't pass. I would suggest to stay on sight that way, you don't have to rent a car if you have to fly.

Just buy one souvinier for you and for him.

I hope you and your hubby can still go. Good luck!
 
Lisa P, or anyone else?

I would love to hear some of your tips for how to get out of debt. I am just starting to try but not to good with the budgeting thing, any tips would help.


Thanks
 
First way to get out of debt..but definitely NOT the easiest is put the credit cards DOWN..cut them up so you do not use them if need be...This is a major life change..pay CASH or Checks for everything..If you cannot afford it right now..save for it, unless it is life threatening if you do not buy it..you do not need it that bad!!!! Do that for everything including vacations...pay cash for them, use a debit card on your checking account if you do not want to carry cash all the time...We now go to WDW on the cash only system, if we cannot afford to pay for it, we do not go....I do have credit cards but we have a no plastic vacation policy..use them to hold rooms and reserve airline seats on the internet only..We even went up to our local airprot and paid cash for tickets to get them off the credit card....It took us a looooong while to get used to this system, but that is how we live now..and we are much happier, no money fights or bill fights...We have one major credit card, for emergencies only, a gas credit card (balance is due for gas each month in total), and one dept store credit card for major appliances and stuff..that is it.....that is my advice, give it a try it worked well for us....:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:....DO NOT CARRY A LOT OF CASH ON VACATIONS USE TRAVELLERS CHEQUES CARRYING A BUNCH OF CASH IS NEVER A GOOD IDEA....
 
until I took those lemons and made lemonade. Hubby really can't leave his job for our 10 day Jan. 02' vacation. Two disgruntled brats totally, trashed accts.,acct. files, histories, you name it. AFTER he straightens all of this out he has to train 2 new people. So it was looking extremly blink. I mean just imagine HAVING THE MONEY to go but not being able to take the time off because of someone flipping out. :mad: We were going to do 1 free day,2 days at Seaworld while staying at the Wyndham . Then head over to the AS for the remaining Disney time . I had already paid Priceline the money for the Wyndham, so that meant no refund and we were all bummed to go all the way to Florida just for Seaworld.
That's when I came to these boards and started looking up info. on the Wyndham. I discovered it was located in Downtown Disney and was considered a Disney resort. That meant we could use Disney transportation, have access to early openings, all the Disney perks, they even have a Disney character breakfast! Well it hit me that no one would have a stroke if he took 2 days off especially considering all the work he'll be doing for the next year)And those two days could be Thursday and Friday giving us a 4 day 3 night vacation. Sometimes the early flights to Orlando and the late flights back cost more. But with the extra money they are paying him, I can use that to make sure we are on the first flight to Orlando and the last flight back home. Woohoo!!! It looks like we're going to Disney after all.
When I ran all this past him he was very pleased. So it looks like we will finally be staying someplace other than AS Sports, too bad it took something like this to get us there.
Don't give up just yet. Take a step back and look at the situation really hard. Going at a different time of the year could be an option. Has he ever seen the beautiful Xmas decorations at Disney? Maybe you could go after Thanksgiving or two weeks before Xmas when the crowds are very light. That way it gives you time to save, play with budget, get in on some deals, etc... Also something else to think about is going for just 3 days. If he can take off just one day, like a Friday you guys could get there as early as possible and leave as late as possible on Sunday. Giving you a 3 day 2 night vacation. The more you think about it the more options start to present themselves. And oh, btw that package sounds pretty good. Accommendations for 5 days, airfare and tickets for5 days under 600.00 pp is going to be hard to beat. Good luck!
 
that we don't get all the perks. Only the Groverner Hotel. Oh well, I'm still excited that we even get to go!
 
wdisneyaholic, there is a Christian based organization that helps people with their finances and encourages financial freedom through debt-free living. You can find it at www.crown.org and their advisor Larry Burkett, who has published several books on the subject. At the web site, you can find a lot of materials on budgeting and they can probably advise you about organizations that can counsel you about credit.

It's just so easy with all the credit applications (unsolicited) that come in the mail every day to become overwhelmed. Good luck.
 
Kudo s for you not to fall into debt.. Disney has been around since 1971 and will always be there...

We pay cash for everything, especially our Disney trips. I work part time, and bank all that money for fun stuff.

We drive down as well.

Getting out of debt, better now, than later.
 
About the debt thing, I agree with fkj2. Larry Burkett's advice is excellent and highly recommended.

First, write down all the things that you are currently spending your money on. Do this for a while so that you can really see where it's all going. You'll be amazed to see how much waste there is... you're probably nickel & diming yourself to death.

Then write down a list of your FIXED, ESSENTIAL budget expenses... housing & maintenance, utilities, insurances, food, transportation, clothing, taxes, emergency savings deposits (to accumulate 3-6 months basic budget needs), basic retirement investment. See if there are any ways that you can reduce them responsiibly. Add up your totals.

Look at your total debt load. See if there are ways to reduce the interest rates. (Pay highest rate debt first, whenever extra money is available.) Figure monthly payments to pay it all off in a reasonable period of time.

The essential & debt expenses above must be paid FIRST. That is key.

Then see what's really left at the end of your month's net income for other VARIABLE, NON-ESSENTIAL expenses... pocket money, entertainment, vacations, clubs, hobbies, holidays, birthdays, upgrades of the essentials (like restaurants or name brand groceries, cable TV, fancier car or clothes, jewelry, dry-cleaning, earlier retirement planning, etc.) and miscellaneous. Remember that these are non-essential. Involve the whole family in understanding and prioritizing these.

Are there spending goals, for which you also want or need to save. even if you can't right away? Early retirement, kid's college, a house, renovations, a nice car/truck, a real splurge vacation... pick what you'd really like to do and when you might reasonably attain those goals. What would it cost monthly? How could you put aside that money into a separate account, not to be touched outside of true emergency (medical, funeral, etc.)? These come after the debts are paid off. And they WILL come if you are true to your budget.

Looking at all your own non-essential stuff, where can you cut? What would be a REASONABLE amount of money to put aside for each category, each month? Some non-essential areas can be temporarily eliminated. Some are better to just scale back. We kept having recreational activities & vacations but they were much simpler and less costly: We dropped karate for the kids; picked up basketball & swimming - cheaper. We limited restaurants to $50 per month; enjoyed more picnics and state park visits; got an annual museum membership that allowed us reciprocal visits to other museums, zoos and aquariums. We put off air travel and resumed camping for more weekend getaways. I cooked much more often but simpler meals and DH brought a sack lunch to work at least 3x/wk, around his business lunch schedule. Your individual ways may vary.

How much would you budget for each expense monthly, in order to realistically & consistently meet your budget (including paying off your debt)? What is your realistic goal time period for paying off your debts? Remember that as you eliminate your debts, their debt payments will be "found money" in your budget. That's where you will get to decide if you want to add to variable, non-essential upgrades in your budget lifestyle or if you want to pay off the other, remaining debts faster.

Any time you are tempted to spend on something that isn't on the budget, delay it for at least a month. If you can do that, you will likely see that you didn't really need it that badly after all. And you were JUST FINE, surviving the sacrifice. If you had spent, you would have probably just moved on to the next "I want" item by a month later also. Contentment with what you've got will come easier. And you will start to appreciate all that you already have, a little bit more.

It really does get easier. And what a thrill when you can make that first big purchase (a splurge vacation or even, a car!) for cash! The rest of the budget isn't even affected - WOW!
It's very exciting! :bounce:

We only have one credit card, so we can order things, like airline tix or car rental, with insurance and the ability to dispute a charge. It gets paid off every month.

Remember a bargain is only a bargain if you would have needed to purchase it anyway and you've saved money on a good deal. A $250 paper maché Indian elephant for your outdoor mailbox at 75% off is still no bargain. ;) :p

Budgeting for your vacations means that if you can afford it, you will enjoy it that much more - before, during AND afterward. If you're spending beyond your means, you will find yourself regretting it at some point.
Great family memories CAN be made on a reasonable budget! :sunny:

Lastly, for other Christians here, our finances improved dramatically the year after we started to tithe our income.
Didn't know WHERE 10% of our gross income would come from! :earseek: But we did it in faith. And have we ever experienced the rewards! :) Other expenses seemed to decrease and finances increased (fewer car and home repairs needed, useful gifts, unsolicited raise at work, etc.), freeing up money, sufficient to meet our budget. And we've experienced such blessing in many other ways too. :cool: So for any Christians who have been considering doing this... I'd encourage you to take the plunge. :D

Anyway, hope this all helps someone. :wave:
Whew, I sure didn't intend this to be so long. Sorry so long-winded. :D
 














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