Husband turned in two week notice....

[Klismania]

Yes and I work at a place where the folks did indeed do this. Took everything they needed before they gave notice. Seems to me if you don't trust what your employees might do if they do find another job, perhaps you shouldn't trust them enough keep them on your payroll to begin with.

Agree, but I'll also add that if you didn't treat your employees badly, they not only wouldn't leave but they wouldn't seek retribution by damaging your property to begin with.

That's exactly what I would, and have, done. With any job I have ever left, I knew many weeks in advance that I would be leaving, so I started gathering my "departure information" as soon as I pretty much knew I'd be going.

In my case, since I am in healthcare, it wasn't things like client lists and such, but more things like chart forms I had designed, policies I had created, complimentary letters I had received etc. Stuff that gave examples of the type of work I was able to produce. And I certainly never had any desire to do any kind of damage...whether physical, computer-related or anything else....to a place of employment.

I totally understand. The way I feel about it is, "Sure. You get to keep the finished product. But you won't get any more creative solutions the way I create them."

And good luck reproducing what I did; the talent that went into creating that intellectual property was leaving with me.

 

[Minnesota!]

I never realized that this is normal. I work for a pretty large company and we don't do things this way. If someone gives their two weeks they work them and spend that time getting their boss up to speed on everything that they were working on. Making sure they give at least 2 weeks also ensures that they are eligable for rehire if they want to come back to the company. If they don't give 2 weeks they aren't eligable for rehire.

This is how my company is run. I love it...

 

[DisneyLover83]

DH works in an industry where this is extremely common, but every time he has given two weeks notice and been escorted out of the building, he was also paid his salary for the two weeks.

Same at my DH's work, you are paid for the two weeks but they do not want you to come into the office.

 

[Keli]

I can't really afford to go two weeks without pay and threads like this make me feel like I shouldn't consider giving a two week notice when/if I ever decide to move on unless I know my employer won't do this to me.
Employers really can't expect people to give notice when it's becoming common to send then packing the minute they do it.

 

[bettymae1121]

If that's the case I'm giving 6 months notice.

I'm sure it's capped at two weeks, but I like your thinking!

 

[Arielle22]

I have employees in Chicago and I have never heard of such a rule for payment. In fact I have employees in 7 states and none require payment if the notice is not worked.

However OP, your DH may be eligible for unemployment. Many states having a week waiting period so your DH may be eligible for a week's unemployment. Of course, if he calls the new company they may be happy to have him start early.

This policy is know as not requiring you to work your notice period or accepting your resignation immediately. It is very common.

 

[jodifla]

Wow...surprising. In my industry, unless the circumstances are unusual, you are asked to stay past the two weeks if you at all can.

In my last job, they knew I was leaving SIX MONTHS before I actually left. My husband moved ahead of me for a really good job; I stayed behind while he found a new house. I had also been there almost 20 years, and had a lot to wrap up.

My bosses' boss would come out during that time and tell me, "You aren't really going to leave. You're going to stay with us!"

 

[Janet Hill]

OK back from picking up the husband.

No we really didn't want to go for two weeks with no income, because we just recuperated from my being laid off and am now really underemployed (but part of this is me because I don' want my son to have to ride the bus. He's in middle school, very high functioning ASP, but also a bully magnet).

This was never a problem in the past everyone just worked out their notice and that was that. Lots of recent management changes and things just aren't as nice here as they once were. Anyway my husband is number three who has recently left for the competitor, so they are a bit bitter. No idea that it was at this level though.

Anyway, he will not receive pay for the two weeks, but he called his new employer and he starts Wednesday, so basically only unemployed for 1 day.

Biggest issue will be taking care of the health insurance issues to make sure no gap as my husband is a Type I diabetic and this could be a potential problem.

Things could definately be worse, and he gets a better car with his new job.

 

[nathalee81]

I can't really afford to go two weeks without pay and threads like this make me feel like I shouldn't consider giving a two week notice when/if I ever decide to move on unless I know my employer won't do this to me.
Employers really can't expect people to give notice when it's becoming common to send then packing the minute they do it.

To the OP, I am sorry this happened-it really does suck. I'm glad it appears your husband can start his new job sooner, though.

I agree with above poster. How can we, as employees, be expected to give two weeks notice when we risk our income (and, perhaps, our health benefits) if they decide to just tell us to leave?

 

[NotUrsula]

I see what you are saying OP, from your point of view it does sound a bit like they are being mean spirited. But these days, unless you work for a Mom & Pop place where you can't be easily replaced, people are no longer allowed to linger at a job after the relationship is severed for safety reasons like other PPs have said. It's not about your DH, it's the protocol to prevent theft, sabotage, violence & vandalism.

Not true at all in the case of good-faith resignations -- layoffs, yes, but not resignations. It depends entirely on the field and on the employment sector. In most cases, if you work for a government or a non-profit and resign on good terms, it is the norm to work out the notice period. In academe, a long notice period is expected (30-40 days, IME), and failing to give notice at all is a career-killer -- people will remember it AND talk about it. and if you do it, the job you jump ship for is likely to turn out to be your last in the field.

Law firms, otoh, have usually told people to go ahead and leave since at least the 1950's; it's the norm there.

Most states do require that accumulated vacation time be paid regardless of the circumstances of departure, because that is taxable earned compensation. I've encountered a few situations where failure to give notice constitutes a valid exception to that rule.

 

[jlewisinsyr]

In my case, since I am in healthcare, it wasn't things like client lists and such, but more things like chart forms I had designed, policies I had created, complimentary letters I had received etc. Stuff that gave examples of the type of work I was able to produce. And I certainly never had any desire to do any kind of damage...whether physical, computer-related or anything else....to a place of employment.

If these things you took were created on company time, you actually are stealing from the company, and if the company has an interest and can prove you took the items you can be sued for theft of intellectual property. Unless you get a release from your employer, that stuff is not yours, regardless of how "underpaid" you may feel or that you need the documents to prove you are a high performer.

 

[goofy!]

DH works in an industry where this is extremely common, but every time he has given two weeks notice and been escorted out of the building, he was also paid his salary for the two weeks.

Common for the industry DH works with and the industry I used to work in. But the 2 weeks has always been paid.

Protection of the company's intellectual property. While it is true that a really nasty employee might have gathered data before giving notice, regular employees sometimes have a drop in work ethic and company loyalty after serving notice, so the temptation to do some damage rises.

 

[shortbun]

I think it's totally unprofessional to resign without two weeks notice to one's employer. I also think any non-national security firm is unprofessional and paranoid for terminating an employee who professionally turns in two weeks notice. If your employer treats you like this because you've bothered to tell them you are leaving, you've made a good choice in leaving. Have people really lowered their standards so much that they are willing to be treated like this and call it 'normal?" I resigned my last job with an official letter, submitted to human resources and copies to my immediate supervisors. They were gracious, expected me to work the two weeks and gave me an excellent exit interview. This is the way a good company should handle a resignation.

 

[jodifla]

i think it's totally unprofessional to resign without two weeks notice to one's employer. I also think any non-national security firm is unprofessional and paranoid for terminating an employee who professionally turns in two weeks notice. If your employer treats you like this because you've bothered to tell them you are leaving, you've made a good choice in leaving. Have people really lowered their standards so much that they are willing to be treated like this and call it 'normal?" i resigned my last job with an official letter, submitted to human resources and copies to my immediate supervisors. They were gracious, expected me to work the two weeks and gave me an excellent exit interview. This is the way a good company should handle a resignation.

ita!

 

[Aristomommy]

I think the two week notice works both ways. If a company expects an employee to give a notice they should either pay for the time without working it or pay for the time working it as they are the ones asking for this option. In DHs industry it has gone both ways but he has always received payment for the two weeks. I have always worked my two weeks which has worked out. Any employee could gather their information prior to giving notice. Professionals learn not to burn bridges also, so the sentiment of sending someone out the door is unprofessional IMHO.

 

[Rumpus]

That's normal now. The company doesn't want to risk possible ruin to their computers and other systems. Yes, it's unlikely most employees will cause destruction but that's just the way it is.

My sister worked for a company that had a huge amount of layoffs and they treated the employees the same way which I thought was ridiculous. Nothing like giving people a pink slip and then having a security guard stand over them while they are about to break down.

I worked for a large company that dealt with insurance, equities, securities and investments. Departments were eliminated. Very trust worthy employees, including lawyers came into work, found that they could not log on to their computers and when everyone arrived, they were taken into a room and terminated en masse. Security guards stood by while they cleaned out their desks. Very sad. Not much time to say goodbye to co workers. They did offer re employment workshops so I guess that they got to 'terminate relationships" then.

 

[canadianjovigirl]

Wow, glad we are not faced with that in my part of Canada. Here you have to give notice and they have to give you notice. There are no reprecusions financially if you dont give notice, but they need to pay you if they dont give you enough notice. I once gave 2 weeks notice and the employer did not want me to work them out so they paid we for the 2 weeks. Our notices guides are as follows:

Minimum Employment Standards Notice Requirements
Neither the employer nor employee has a statutory obligation to give notice of termination during the first three months of employment. This is consistent with industry practice that generally treats the first three months of employment as a probationary period.

Employer Initiates Termination
The length of notice an employer is required to give depends on the duration of employment and must be in writing. The minimum notice requirements that employers must give are:

•one week - for employment of more than three months, but less than two years
•two weeks - for employment of two years, but less than four years,
•four weeks - for employment of four years, but less than six years,
•five weeks - for employment of six years, but less than eight years,
•six weeks - for employment of eight years, but less than 10 years, and
•eight weeks - for employment of 10 years or more.
An employer may choose to give pay for the required notice period instead of providing notice. A combination of written notice and pay in lieu of notice (termination pay) is also acceptable.

The employer must pay all wages, overtime, general holiday pay and vacation pay due the employee within three days following termination of employment.

The Employment Standards Code prohibits an employer from dismissing an employee because the employee's wages are garnisheed or when that employee is on maternity or parental leave (some exceptions apply - see Maternity & Parental Leave).

 

[cm8]

I think it's totally unprofessional to resign without two weeks notice to one's employer. I also think any non-national security firm is unprofessional and paranoid for terminating an employee who professionally turns in two weeks notice. If your employer treats you like this because you've bothered to tell them you are leaving, you've made a good choice in leaving. Have people really lowered their standards so much that they are willing to be treated like this and call it 'normal?" I resigned my last job with an official letter, submitted to human resources and copies to my immediate supervisors. They were gracious, expected me to work the two weeks and gave me an excellent exit interview. This is the way a good company should handle a resignation.

I totally agree

 

[onelilspark]

OP: that's great he's able to start the new job early! And for hopefully a company that will appreciate him

I quit my job in November and gave 2 1/2 weeks notice...I wish I would have been told not to bother! I was really crossing my fingers for some extra wedding planning time

My fiance works at a defense contractor. Because he could put a bug into the software, they would escort him out if he gives notice (or he'd be escorted out if fired.) Same at Bosch & Lomb here in Rochester. Especially if you're around the solution, you can put something in it and endanger the public. So sometimes it's for people's safety!

 

[Aristomommy]

I worked for a large company that dealt with insurance, equities, securities and investments. Departments were eliminated. Very trust worthy employees, including lawyers came into work, found that they could not log on to their computers and when everyone arrived, they were taken into a room and terminated en masse. Security guards stood by while they cleaned out their desks. Very sad. Not much time to say goodbye to co workers. They did offer re employment workshops so I guess that they got to 'terminate relationships" then.

I think it's different when a company goes through layoffs, because employees will be mad, disgruntled even and there is a chance of foul play. Very different from an employee who may be grateful for the employment experience but ready to move on with another organization (while wanting to leave a door open for the future).