HOw to find a reputable breeder?

hugabearjo

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My mom is thinking about getting a cockapoo puppy. I think this would be a great thing as she lives alone. However, I have been researching them and now I am afraid because they talk about "PUPPY MILLS" I had never heard of them before. I have always gotten my dogs from a local breeder that I know, (Aussie's) she has one or two litters a year and they are raised in the house etc. I can't find a local breeder for cockapoo's. I looked online and so many have so many puppies at so many different ages that it makes you wonder. Their claims look great on paper, about socializing them etc. but how do you know? I also know that my breeder will hold back a puppy that maybe isn't quite what she would want to paper and sell it for little to no cost for a family pet only with a promise to fix the dog.

Does anyone have any suggestions. I don't think she can spend an arm and a leg but, is willing to pay.

Thanks in advance. I really think this would be good for her.
 
The thing is that a cockapoo is a mixed breed (nothing against mutts - we have one of our own that we rescued earlier this year and love dearly), which isn't consistent with the concept of a reputable breeder. You're going to find puppy mills and backyard breeders who produce cockapoos, but not a reputable breeder like your Aussie breeder.

How about a nice shelter puppy? The shelters are full of purebred and mixed breed puppies.
 
I think she has her heart set on a cockapoo because she wants the no shed quality, small an portable, and sweet personality. I think she would go back to an aussie except that she wants no shed and small. She looked into the mini aussie's and found that they tend to have the hyper qualities breed in them :( .

A backyard breeder would be okay as long as the puppies are loved and in the house etc. not in cages all their lives. I have just learned about the puppy mills and it really saddens me. I cried all the way through an article with pictures that I was reading. My aussie by my side not knowing what was wrong. I don't want to support an industry like that one for anything.
 
If she wants a small dog that doesn´t shed, a bichon frise might be another good option for her.

We got a bichon frise puppy about 6 months ago and been really happy with her. We considered the cockapoo too, but I think there are some good and bad traits that might come in one generation and skip another, so we decided to stick with a pure breed to get what we were supposed too.
 

Are bichon puppies all white? I mentioned them to her as I have a friend who has a very sweet one. However, she doesn't really like white dogs... go figure.... she wants buff, or red.

I didn't know about the bad traits can you please share?

Keep the suggestions coming....I really feel like this would be a great thing for her. Something to focus on now that she is retired. My dad has alzhiemer's (is no longer in the home) and since then she doesn't seem to have a purpose. I was thrilled to hear that she was thinking about getting a new family member.
 
My father has a small poodle. His is a dusty brown, and is the sweetest dog. My dad thought he wanted a puppy, but he wound up with a five year old dog, and it turns out that was much better for him. The dog is already house trained, Dad knew for sure how his temperment would be, and the dog is past the hyper puppy stage. Would your Mom consider a slightly older dog?
I would not get a puppy without visiting the breeder myself. You really need to see the dog's parents and litter mates to get a good idea of what you are getting.
 
We have 2 cockapoos. We love them! Ours are from farms in Reading, PA. They are the best dogs in the whole world. They are truly non-shed, but they do need to be groomed about every two months. You can't go wrong with a cockapoo. We have males who have the sweetest personalities ever.
 
I think she has her heart set on a cockapoo because she wants the no shed quality, small an portable, and sweet personality. I think she would go back to an aussie except that she wants no shed and small. She looked into the mini aussie's and found that they tend to have the hyper qualities breed in them :( .

A backyard breeder would be okay as long as the puppies are loved and in the house etc. not in cages all their lives. I have just learned about the puppy mills and it really saddens me. I cried all the way through an article with pictures that I was reading. My aussie by my side not knowing what was wrong. I don't want to support an industry like that one for anything.

I think perhaps you misunderstand what the term "backyard breeder" means. It's someone who raises dogs for all the wrong reasons and in ignorance. Certainly the dogs are usually family pets, but not always, and in general are taken care of medically, well fed and exercised. But a BYB is still not someone you'd look for to get a pup. The BYB usually has no idea of necessary health tests, sound structure, proper temperament, etc..... You may get a nice pet from a backyard breeder or you may get a dog that is just a nightmare. There are lots of people who home raise dogs and do it the proper way. They are called hobby breeders. They show and/or participate in obedience, agility or other dog sports. They know and understand their breed inside and out. They health test, they screen homes and only produce puppies when they have the time to rear them properly. They usually only do so to continue the breed for themselves and to sink whatever they make back into showing, training, health testing, education, etc.....

With a purebred you can look to your local all-breed club for referals. They generally have members with most breeds who in turn can recommend even more breeders. You can visit a dog show and meet local breeders. With a mixed breed this is more difficult. Though mixed, cockapoos have been around for decades as a popular mix. To be honest "mix breeding" and "reputable breeder" don't really go together, as no "reputable breeder" is producing soley pet puppies. But since this mix has been around a long time there are certain to be people producing healthy good natured dogs. You are sort of on your own to find out someone who's trying to breed good dogs. Another problem is you cannot predict exactly which traits will be inheritied by which pups. Poodles are non-shedding but cockers are not. Which coat will the pups get? Research diseases carried by both breeds and know that the pups can inherit any or all of them. Look for someone who has at least tested both parents for these diseases and found to be clear of them. Look for someone who doesn't have too many dogs to care for. Look for someone who will guarantee the dog for genetic problems. The latest "fad mix" we have been seeing is the labradoodle, obviously mix of Labrador and Standard Poodle. Overall I have to say they have been a rather skittish and shy lot of dogs. I'd venture to say that the founding purebreds were not of the best of their respective breeds or they wouldn't have ended up in a crossbreeding program. The last few we had come in were adopted from rescues which means people are getting tired of them already. Wonder how much longer that fad breed will last?

As mentioned before another good place to look is a rescue. There are thousands of dogs looking for a new home. Purebred and mixed bred alike. www.petfinder.com is a good place to begin. There are even rescues devoted only to small breeds and I'm sure that there is no shortage of cockapoos. If she wants something smaller and non-shedding but not white consider the Havanese. Cousin of the Bichon breed, but comes in a variety of colors.

But whatever she decides just be certain not to fall for a cute face in a pet store window. It's hard not to feel bad for those pups, but buying one even to "rescue" it keeps the supply of them coming in.
 
Thanks order66- I did confuse the two. The aussie breeder I have used is a hobby breeder. I just didn't know the difference. I ready about the pet store puppies and I will never buy one from a pet store.

As for petfinder.com I have been looking just no luck yet, I am leary because the last cat I got from them was ill. They got well and I am glad for that, but it scares me because the new puppy would be spending time with my aussie who is 9 years old and I would feel terrible if I brought something home to her.

I will check out the cousin of the bichon... thanks for the help.

Please keep the ideas coming I really appreciate it.
 
is this a new breed, or are they registered with the AKC? If they are registered with the AKC, they are the best place to find a reputable breeder through. I had a hard time finding a Golden Retriever breeder, because they are terribly overbred, and tons of backyard breeders that don't care about health clearances. I contacted my local chapter of the AKC and they gave me tons of names for reputable breeders!

Just keep looking. Also keep in mind that a good breeder only has one or two (at the most) litters a year. Stay away from breeders that have several litters on the premises! Also ask how often they breed their females. There should be at least a whole year, if not more, between breedings, and good breeders spay their females after 2 or 3 litters!
 
We have a poodle. She is great! She'll be 11 in December. We have had her since she was 12 weeks. She is really a fun dog. I was careful who I bought her from, but she has some problems with her legs and the vet says it is overbreeding. You just never know. I got a poodle because of allergies and the fact that she doesn't shed. She has to be groomed often.
 
we have a pekapoo and - like your mom's choice of a cockapoo- we wanted her for a combination of characteristics. We did have to travel (4 hrs to find a breeder that was reputable.) Sure, there were closer pekapoos- but we did the research and did'nt settle on a BY breeder or a pet store. It was worth it - she is a fabulous dog pluto:
 
My beloved Cockapoo, is 17,and has the sweetest personality ever. However, I got her from rescue, and that's what I would encourage. Our friends brought a cockapoo for a "reputable" breeder that turned out to have a temperament problem. Was aggressive and would try to lunge and bite, etc. So, no breed is foolproof. I don't know how to find a breeder, but I would encourage looking for a little older dog from a rescue, where you can already tell what their personality is. With a puppy you just never know.
 
I am definately an anti-breeder person. One reason is that our lovely dog (who has sadly just died aged just 6 1/2) we rescued from a "reputable breeder" endorsed and recommended by the Canine Kennel Club ..... which ONLY means that the "breeder" pays them a registration fee - no checks are even made!

anyway - I was going to get a resue, heard about ths "breeder" posed as a buyer, went to her puppy farm and was so horrified I took our pup there and then - he was only 5 weeks old. Seperated from his mother, alone in a cage outside in the grounds, as all the others were, had fox mange, etcetc

also had CSS and jaw deformity as a result of over breeding. Armed with my "KC breeder certificate, and lineage of parentage (show dogs) I took him home.

I would always encourage others to think of taking in rescue dogs rather than going down the breeders route.

This isnt a flaming post its just an emotive subject for me and I totally appreciate the OP's dilema especially when you want a specific breed rather than a Heinz 57 or cross as more common in rescue dogs. I'm sure you will make the right decision based on what you find - breeder or not.

I'm sure there are reputable breeders out there of course - but I'd rather give a poor dog needing a home my home rather than keeping the puppy industry going.
 
is this a new breed, or are they registered with the AKC? If they are registered with the AKC, they are the best place to find a reputable breeder through. I had a hard time finding a Golden Retriever breeder, because they are terribly overbred, and tons of backyard breeders that don't care about health clearances. I contacted my local chapter of the AKC and they gave me tons of names for reputable breeders!

Just keep looking. Also keep in mind that a good breeder only has one or two (at the most) litters a year. Stay away from breeders that have several litters on the premises! Also ask how often they breed their females. There should be at least a whole year, if not more, between breedings, and good breeders spay their females after 2 or 3 litters!


just beware of what AKC registered actually means - breeders just have to pay their subscriptions and a few forms .... no checks are made at how their business actually operates and when I vehementally complained about my breeder experience from a KC registered breeder they said they would not do anything as they are a "CLUB" not a "society" therefore anyone can join and do what they want under the KC umbrella
 
You might try to google "cockapoo rescue", "cocker spaniel rescue" or "poodle rescue" and contact any organizations in your area.

We adopted our dog (a labrador retriever puppy) from a Labrador Retriever rescue, but they also took in lab-mixes -- they had several Labradoodles.

For the person who said they got a sick animal from petfinder.com, realize that petfinder.com is not a pet-placing organization itself. It's a network of pet-placing organization. Some of the organizations that advertise there are probably more above-board than others.
 
There is a big difference between the AKC and the Canine Kennel Club. The AKC is "the" national registration in the United States. Canine Kennel Club, Continential Kennel Club, World Wide Kennel Club and a multitude of other legitimate sounding names are nothing more than paper registries. They do nothing but provide papers to dogs based on the word of the owner. Many of these "clubs" don't require previous registration or even known purebred status to register a dog as anything you'd like. They don't hold shows, OB or agility trials, don't sponsor health studies and certainly don't record DNA. Just send a check. The OP should add that to the list......beware of advertisements of "registered mix breds". A lot of "breeders" turn to these registries after they have been suspended by AKC. There is also UKC (United Kennel Club) but I have misgivings about them sometimes as well. JMHO, but they are the minor league of the dog world. They do however recognize many breeds that the AKC doesn't yet.

The AKC isn't perfect, but yes they do have some degree of power to keep breeders in check. They certainly don't (can't) police everyone but they do have certain restrictions in order to register dogs with them. They do require DNA for frequently used studs. They do have requirements for record keeping. They will investigate breeders who have several complaints lodged against them. They do suspend for convictions of animal cruelty. You can access the Gazette on their website (www.akc.org) and look at just how many breeders they suspend each month. However, yes it is still up to you to research and not just believe AKC can solve any problems.

Sorry to hear you had a sick dog and thank you for opening up your home to a dog in need. But at the risk of flaming....... you didn't do the pup a favor of the "pity adoption". "Rescue" or not, what you did was line that persons pockets and give them a reason to keep breeding. As long as they have customers, who love them or hate them, they have a reason to keep breeding. The only way to put them out of business is to stop buying their product. Adopt from rescues or shelters....which is where these dogs end up anyway, but at least not at a profit to the breeder.

As to rescues, just like breeders there are good ones and bad ones. You need to check them out just like you would a breeder. Of course they can't offer you a guarantee of the dog's health as they generally pull from shelters where history is unknown. The dogs will get a basic health exam for obvious problems and have it's vaccinations and heartworm testing. Some rescues provide even more such as spay/neuter prior to placement or a certificate to have it done at a lower cost. Most smaller private rescues have available dogs in foster homes. Pretty low risk of spreading illnesses considering these dogs usually live with the foster family's pets too. Cat's are more difficult. Kittens born with upper respiratory are usually of a herpes virus. And just like the virus in humans, it cannot be cured, only managed. Cats with herpes URI's will flare up from time to time all their lives and can pass it to other cats. Dogs do not have this issue.

Any new puppy, breeder or rescue, should have limited access to public areas and other dogs until it's had it's full series of immunizations. Puppies, like babies, have weaker immune systems. But a healthy adult dog, vaccinated all it's life, has little to no chance to catch anything from a sick pup. So unless your dog has some medical issues I wouldn't worry much about anything happening to her with exposure to a new puppy.

I currently have the best of both worlds. Two I bred myself and two I rescued. You can get great dogs either way. Just take your time and find the right match. Another resource I forgot to mention before was inquire at your vet. He/she may have clients that breed and/or rescue and could point you in a direction to start looking.

Good luck.
 
The thing is that a cockapoo is a mixed breed (nothing against mutts - we have one of our own that we rescued earlier this year and love dearly), which isn't consistent with the concept of a reputable breeder. You're going to find puppy mills and backyard breeders who produce cockapoos, but not a reputable breeder like your Aussie breeder.

How about a nice shelter puppy? The shelters are full of purebred and mixed breed puppies.

I totally agree with the above. Deliberately mixing breeds to supply the pet market is entirely in conflict with the concept of being a reputable and responsible dog breeder. ::yes::

If your Mother wants a small dog, reddish brown, with a low shed coat... why not consider an apricot colored toy or miniature poodle from a responsible breeder? Or, perhaps she would consider a terrier breed (Wheaten colored Scotty, Welsh, Irish etc.), or one of the smallish spaniels (Water Spaniels are nice dogs, liver colored with curly coats)? When they are selectively bred by a responsible breeder, these purebreds have very pleasant temperaments and good hereditary health. Try attending a dog show, and take a look at all of the different breeds that are available. Chances are good that you can find a purebred that meets her expectations. With several hundred to choose from, there really isn't much excuse for 'mixing' breeds. And, when mixing breeds... one does not get pups with all the best qualities of each parent--you are just as likely to get all of the worst traits (but in reality, will likely get a random mix of both good and bad)!

The issue with a random bred or deliberate mixed breed is that the people who are producing those are doing so with the primary goal of turing a profit--as quickly and easily as possible. They are not making informed breeding decisions based on a thorough knowledge of the animals' hereditary background... nor are long term health, stable temperaments and other highly desirable breed-specific characteristics kept as high priorities. That is not to say that there are not some irresponsible people breeding purebreds also--just that people who deliberately mix breeds usually have one goal in mind. They produce pups in order to sell them on the pet market for a nice profit. Reputable breeders of purebreds thoughtfully and selectively produce a litter in hopes of keeping one or more of the resulting pups for themselves (to continue & improve upon the line), then will responsibly place/sell those pups that they can not keep (often at a financial loss--it is rare that we actually 'break even' on a litter, let alone profit in any way).


OK. Off my soap box. Just wanted to share that info, as I feel it is important to be informed when deciding who is going to be the best source from which to obtain a canine companion... a dog that (hopefully) will be sharing your home & heart for the next 10 to 15 years. I always recommend either a responsible, reputable breeder (of purebreds), or an equally reputable rescue (for either purebreds or random/mixed breeds).
 


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