How to avoid the freshman 15 according to Brooke Shields

[bicker]

Your original statement states a cause, alludes to an effect, but doesn't really explain why you believe the statement to be true. I was curious to hear your explanation of why you think your statement is valid.

Excuse me, but your prior post explained nothing. You took two concepts/facts and stated that there was a correlation between the two. But you provided no evidence of such correlation, and yes, I know what a correlation is. I also know what causation is. The existence of two separate circumstances or lifestyle indicators does NOT prove a correlation. Or that one causes another. You've simply spouted your theory, which you are entitled to do, but absent more than your opinion, it is ONLY your end thought.

You are both mistaken about your guesses about what the word "correlation" means.

Again, I refer you to the difference between correlation and causation.

One of the most common errors we find in the press is the confusion between correlation and causation in scientific and health-related studies. In theory, these are easy to distinguish — an action or occurrence can cause another (such as smoking causes lung cancer), or it can correlate with another (such as smoking is correlated with alcoholism). If one action causes another, then they are most certainly correlated. But just because two things occur together does not mean that one caused the other, even if it seems to make sense.

http://stats.org/in_depth/faq/causation_correlation.htm

The info regarding the trend in teenage sexual behavior was provided earlier. The info regarding the trend in obesity is widely available.

 

[Sandy V.]

You are both mistaken about your guesses about what the word "correlation" means.

I'll quote Wikipedia, since they also pointed out what I mentioned earlier.

Again, I refer you to the difference between correlation and causation.

Whatever . . . no use to wrestle with a pig. You only get dirty, and the pig likes it.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

You are both mistaken about your guesses about what the word "correlation" means.

Again, I refer you to the difference between correlation and causation.


http://stats.org/in_depth/faq/causation_correlation.htm

The info regarding the trend in teenage sexual behavior was provided earlier. The info regarding the trend in obesity is widely available.

It appears as if you were leading people to presume that you were implying causation within the context of the discussion in regards to the remarks made by Ms. Shields. Otherwise, what was your motivation??

 

[redlight]

Her concerns appeared to be more about her emotional state than the side-effect of her weight. Instead of being manipulated by People's inflammatory headline, you should read what she actually said, between the quotation marks:A lot of people recognize the interrelation between body and emotion. It sounds like Shields recognizes, now, that her fixation on remaining a virgin adversely impacted her emotional well-being. I think that's what people should be taking away from what she's said.

I think you are right.

 

[bicker]

It appears as if you were leading people to presume that you were implying causation within the context of the discussion in regards to the remarks made by Ms. Shields. Otherwise, what was your motivation??

Actually, the exact opposite is what I said.

Actually, over the last decade, the percentage of all high school students (9-12th grade) who report ever having had sexual intercourse has declined. [Source: Kaiser Family Foundation.] This is at the same time that obesity among teens has been increasing. While I don't think anyone has proved causation, there is a correlation.

I'm sorry some people thought they knew what the words they read meant and ended up embarrassing themselves.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Actually, the exact opposite is what I said.

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I'm sorry some people thought they knew what the words they read meant and ended up embarrassing themselves.

Now, now, don't make me whip out a dictionary and define "leading", "presume", "implying", and "context" for you. Try not to get so defensive with such a condescending attitude when people ask for clarification. Stop being shy and just address why you brought the "study" you referenced into the conversation.

 

[Sandy V.]

I'm sorry some people thought they knew what the words they read meant and ended up embarrassing themselves.

Kettle meet pot. But then, this is your modus operandi, isn't it? Have a pleasant evening. You are almost always amusing, although you rarely INTEND to be.

 

[bicker]

I brought up the research study in direct response to rie'smom's implication:

Most teens are heavier than ever and they're having sex, so her theory doesn't hold water.

 

[disykat]

As is often pointed out, apples and oranges are both fruit but have little else in common.

While Brooke Shields may feel for some strange reason that not having sex kept her from being in touch with herself and gave her an excuse to carry some extra weight, I fail to see how that has any relevance to anyone else. It's her opinion about herself, period.

My opinion is, however, that that's just about the silliest thing I've ever heard.

I'm guessing there are a lot more girls out there who've gained weight over upset about having sex with the wrong guy than there are women who would agree with Shields.

 

[redlight]

I'm guessing there are a lot more girls out there who've gained weight over upset about having sex with the wrong guy than there are women who would agree with Shields.

You're probably right. Brooke Shields is an exception because she was in the public eye and had made a point about retaining her virginity.

On the other hand, most women I know (including myself) have turned to food after almost any problem with a guy.