How rude!

[Tauwillow]

HUH?? When did the government take away any of the control I have over my children? What are you talking about?

I expect they're talking about corporal punishment.

 

[momofrrr]

I don't have any issues at all allowing a child to sit down in front of me at a parade but Mom, we that is just a bummer that you can't see. You should come a little earlier like the rest of us!

 

[noahdove]

Please don't flame me, but, when I find a place to sit for the parade or fireworks, illumination, I go and sit at least 45-60 minutes prior to the start. I paid for my ticket just as others have and I only take the amount of space that I need. I will not move for someone that has a stroller that decides 15 minutes before the parade etc start. And as for the ECV's the first trip my granddaughter went with me, she only talked at first about the rude ladies with the evc's. She was 11 at the time and she made the comment of the rudeness while I was thinking of it. Yes, we did get the majority of politeness etc. but sometimes, the rudeness makes a strong lasting statement.

 

[ms_missy66]

I have to say that it makes my blood boil when someone's rudeness ruins something for my children, but I make a conscious decision to not get too worked up about it. I can absolutely see how it's infuriating to be caught up in someone else's total lapse in judgement, but in most cases the hassle of dealing with them just isn't worth it to me.

On a sidenote about ECVs - it's true that a lot of people using them in the parks are first-timers. My dad was one of them last December. Had he not had the use of one, there is no way he could have enjoyed that vacation with us. He simply did not have the mobility to walk more than maybe an eighth of a mile. And we all know how much walking is involved in WDW! Had he not kind of bitten the bullet about using an ECV, we wouldn't have had that time with him. He passed away in March. He probably committed several unintentional ECV sins...God knows he drove me nuts with the horn! LOL...but he sincerely tried to do his best. I'm not trying to be a downer, but rather kind of share the other side of the story.

When we go in a few weeks, Mom is using an ECV because she's awaiting knee replacement surgery. It was the only time our whole family could get together for the trip, so she's kind of happily suffering through it. It'll be her first time too. I'm so absolutely thankful to God that WDW is so accessible. And I'll apologize, in advance, for the inconvenience it may cause others. We're all in this together, though, and Disney World is so worth it!!

 

[MarriedToAPrince]

I hate rude people and I am sorry that you were treated that way. I have learned to speak up when someone pulls something like that, especially when it comes to my child.

 

[honugirl]

I've noticed a lot of rude people in the parks. And while I see a lot of rude adults, I see a lot of rude children as well (usually with the parents egging them on). The last time I was there I was waiting to see Pooh, Eeyore, and Tigger. There was a family behind me who had young children, the children were out of control! They were spinning, rolling on the ground, running around. They kept smacking into me, no one apologized and then when we got up to meet the characters, they kept telling me to hurry up with my pictures so they could do theirs. I'm just as entitled to pics as they are and honestly, I don't take too long, I'm usually in and out.

At the parade at MNSSHP, I let a little girl sit stand in front of me, NEVER AGAIN!!!!!!! My whole view was a spinning gadget being waved around in front of my eyes. They apparently spoke no english, so when I asked her to put it down, they didn't do it. It ruined the whole parade for me.

As for the ECV's, I challenge everyone to go to Target or Walmart or the local grocery store and try one for the day. It'll give you a good idea how it works. How you have to let up on the accelerator to stop. Also how incredibly embarrassing it is when everyone stops and stares at you while you're using it. Be kind to people in ECV's and wheelchairs, you never know when it's going to be you that needs one.

 

[littlbugmom]

I remember rolling mental eyes at a lot of stuff people did during our last trip....some of it rude, some just stupid. (sorry, there are a lot of clueless people in the world) DH and I would later play a little "Can you believe that person did xzy?" and had fun with it.


During our first trip, an elderly woman driving an ECV ran me down near the monorail. The pain was pretty bad but I was more angry because my DD5 was walking right next to me and it could have been her. I gave the woman a dirty look as I said, "OW!!!" and then limped away. People around us were more vocal about it. I heard a lot of "OMG's!" and "Did you see that??" and "she just ran her over!".

A little while later, a woman who spoke little english ran up to me. We figured out she was trying to tell me the elderly woman was trying to catch up to us. (the 2 women were not together) The poor dear was crying her eyes out. She was mortified and so worried I was hurt. She was so upset, she could barely speak.

I regret that dirty look so much. I wish I hadn't thrown it at her. I wish I had just taken a minute to give her a sign that I was ok. If I had, she wouldn't have worked herself up into such a state. If I had reacted differently, the people around her probably wouldn't have made all of those loud comments that I'm sure embarrassed her. I just wish I had treated her like someone's grandmother, kwim?


I don't excuse everyone on an ECV but I do try to keep that elderly woman in mind.

 

[dyna]

OH GEEZ you all have done it again...... Gotten me worked up about rude ppl an those without common curtsey an common sense.

Yes part of it is due to lack of spankings these days or parents being afraid to punish children in public.

Most of the rudeness an lack of courtsey comes from instant everything we only wait for 3 things these days traffic lights, drs visits an lines at disney the rest is pretty much instant most expects it all the time everywhere.

Common sense is a dying breed if not already dead if a person not born with it it can't be taught to them.

 

[rotlex]

Am I the only one who can go to WDW, rude people and all, and not mind it one bit? It's amazing how a thread like this brings out the really bad side of people.

Yes, there are rude people everywhere, but every time it starts to bother you, ask yourself if the person you are getting annoyed with, is being annoyed by you in any way. They are most likely not even thinking about it, yet you are becoming aggravated, angry, and unhappy, in the happiest place on earth, because of what someone else is doing.

Let it go. Don't worry, be happy, and all will be well.

 

[luvsJack]

OH GEEZ you all have done it again...... Gotten me worked up about rude ppl an those without common curtsey an common sense.

Yes part of it is due to lack of spankings these days or parents being afraid to punish children in public.


Most of the rudeness an lack of courtsey comes from instant everything we only wait for 3 things these days traffic lights, drs visits an lines at disney the rest is pretty much instant most expects it all the time everywhere.

Common sense is a dying breed if not already dead if a person not born with it it can't be taught to them.

To the bolded part: Oh, bull! Some of the rudest, most obnoxious kids I know get spanked all the time. And some of the nicest, sweetest, most polite kids I know never even have a voice raised to them. They learn from what they see not what they are told. The parents are rude and obnoxious so are the kids. (I do agree with the rest of your post, though)

I do not wish to get into a spanking/non-spanking debate here but that is not even a small part of the problem. The problem is that all of us are all about "me and mine". We only care if "I" and "my family" are enjoying ourselves, are too hot, have to wait in line, want to ride first, etc. etc.

No one gives a hoot about anyone else, their feelings or what they are trying to do. The man puts his kid on his shoulders and blocks everyone else's view because he only cares if his kid gets to see. The woman pushes in front to get the stickers because she only cares if her kids get stickers (and after all she paid a bundle for this trip and they deserve them ). A large percent of the people in WDW or on the street in your hometown are only thinking of what they want and what they need. They no longer see the little old lady that needs help with her packages, or the little child that keeps getting pushed out of line, or the child in the stroller that wants to see the parade too. They only see what they want/need and how they need to get to it.

You teach your kids by example. If you show consideration for others around you, so will your child; simple as that.

 

[nerdyone]

This is only my opinion and may be worth exactly what you pay for it, but I have noticed that as the government seems to take more control away from the parents the children seem to behave worse. And it only stands to reason that as children without boundaries grow into adults and have children of their own, society as a whole will suffer the consequences.

what are you talking about? The government does not raise your kids, you do. Knock it off with your conspiracy theories.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

To the bolded part: Oh, bull! Some of the rudest, most obnoxious kids I know get spanked all the time. And some of the nicest, sweetest, most polite kids I know never even have a voice raised to them. They learn from what they see not what they are told. The parents are rude and obnoxious so are the kids. (I do agree with the rest of your post, though)

I do not wish to get into a spanking/non-spanking debate here but that is not even a small part of the problem. The problem is that all of us are all about "me and mine". We only care if "I" and "my family" are enjoying ourselves, are too hot, have to wait in line, want to ride first, etc. etc.

No one gives a hoot about anyone else, their feelings or what they are trying to do. The man puts his kid on his shoulders and blocks everyone else's view because he only cares if his kid gets to see. The woman pushes in front to get the stickers because she only cares if her kids get stickers (and after all she paid a bundle for this trip and they deserve them ). A large percent of the people in WDW or on the street in your hometown are only thinking of what they want and what they need. They no longer see the little old lady that needs help with her packages, or the little child that keeps getting pushed out of line, or the child in the stroller that wants to see the parade too. They only see what they want/need and how they need to get to it.

You teach your kids by example. If you show consideration for others around you, so will your child; simple as that.

WORD...Unfortunately with everyone's personality, values and patience levels varying even THIS wouldn't work out.

Lord knows if I turned out like MY parents we'd ALL be in trouble!

But I guess in the long run I DID learn from their example...just in the opposite way!

Rude people are everywhere...I grew up in Florida though and there are a TON of rude people there. Not too sure about tourists, but a lot of the natives. I never noticed it before, but since I've moved to Texas I DEFINATELY see a difference...Maybe people here are just raised differently or maybe it's the fact that I live in a MAJOR military town...

 

[luvsJack]

WORD...Unfortunately with everyone's personality, values and patience levels varying even THIS wouldn't work out.

Lord knows if I turned out like MY parents we'd ALL be in trouble!

But I guess in the long run I DID learn from their example...just in the opposite way!

Rude people are everywhere...I grew up in Florida though and there are a TON of rude people there. Not too sure about tourists, but a lot of the natives. I never noticed it before, but since I've moved to Texas I DEFINATELY see a difference...Maybe people here are just raised differently or maybe it's the fact that I live in a MAJOR military town...

I bet the military part has a lot to do with it. We have a lot of military here too and most (not all) are the greatest when they come in my office, I am always so impressed with their politeness (especially when its some young man that my boys knew in hs!) and I am sure that their kids learn from that.

In places that are more fast paced, people seem less polite. I don't think they mean to be rude, it just comes off that way especially to someone not used to that way of living. DH drives a truck across country and I have to remind him sometimes that thing we were raised to do (like saying m'am and sir) people in other areas weren't, its not rude its just different.

One thing about the deep south is that sometimes our girls are still raised to be oh, so polite. I have to remind dd sometimes that she doesn't have to be polite to the point of getting pushed around. Even "southern belles" can stand their ground. **I am not saying that people from other parts of the country are rude, just that sometimes we do still get that "southern belle" mentality going around here.**

I have heard that a lot about Florida though, and I can't help but wonder why. Maybe because there are so many tourist from everywhere, that the locals have learned they have to be somewhat rude to keep from getting pushed around?

 

[nmmom95]

To the bolded part: Oh, bull! Some of the rudest, most obnoxious kids I know get spanked all the time. And some of the nicest, sweetest, most polite kids I know never even have a voice raised to them. They learn from what they see not what they are told. The parents are rude and obnoxious so are the kids. (I do agree with the rest of your post, though)

I do not wish to get into a spanking/non-spanking debate here but that is not even a small part of the problem. The problem is that all of us are all about "me and mine". We only care if "I" and "my family" are enjoying ourselves, are too hot, have to wait in line, want to ride first, etc. etc.

No one gives a hoot about anyone else, their feelings or what they are trying to do. The man puts his kid on his shoulders and blocks everyone else's view because he only cares if his kid gets to see. The woman pushes in front to get the stickers because she only cares if her kids get stickers (and after all she paid a bundle for this trip and they deserve them ). A large percent of the people in WDW or on the street in your hometown are only thinking of what they want and what they need. They no longer see the little old lady that needs help with her packages, or the little child that keeps getting pushed out of line, or the child in the stroller that wants to see the parade too. They only see what they want/need and how they need to get to it.

You teach your kids by example. If you show consideration for others around you, so will your child; simple as that.

 

[JUJU814]

You teach your kids by example. If you show consideration for others around you, so will your child; simple as that.

How true! Thank you for your post. I really appreciate it.

I can easily get worked up inside about the "rudeness" or others, and have to constantly remind myself "is it worth getting all upset over??" What is more important to me? Another person's behavior? or my own and that of my children and the potential lessons we can learn by unfortunate circumstances?

 

[JUJU814]

I bet the military part has a lot to do with it. We have a lot of military here too and most (not all) are the greatest when they come in my office, I am always so impressed with their politeness (especially when its some young man that my boys knew in hs!) and I am sure that their kids learn from that.

In places that are more fast paced, people seem less polite. I don't think they mean to be rude, it just comes off that way especially to someone not used to that way of living. DH drives a truck across country and I have to remind him sometimes that thing we were raised to do (like saying m'am and sir) people in other areas weren't, its not rude its just different.

One thing about the deep south is that sometimes our girls are still raised to be oh, so polite. I have to remind dd sometimes that she doesn't have to be polite to the point of getting pushed around. Even "southern belles" can stand their ground. **I am not saying that people from other parts of the country are rude, just that sometimes we do still get that "southern belle" mentality going around here.**

I have heard that a lot about Florida though, and I can't help but wonder why. Maybe because there are so many tourist from everywhere, that the locals have learned they have to be somewhat rude to keep from getting pushed around?

Honey, no offense taken here! I'm originally a Bostonian, now in southern nh, and southerners should be proud of their politeness because there is a HUGE difference! Oh, I know there are exceptions, but I just had to chuckle at your post. I LOVE going to see my friend in North Carolina. I just don't know what to do with myself when someone calls me "maam" and smiles at me, holds the door for me, or I see a bible verse written on the back of a french fries package. LOL

Example: going through security at Boston logan airport:
"Take. off. your. belts people!!!!!!!!! get that change out of your pockets. do this, do that...NOW!!!!!!!!!!!" What jerks! LOL

Charlotte airport security, return trip:
"good morning maam and how are you today? Please remove your belt and kindly place it in this container. Now step on through maam. You have a wonderful day..what nice weather today!"

LOL seriously..actual experience..pretty much every trip.

As far as the tourist comment in Florida, I can see that. My parents live on Cape Cod right by the beach so there are a lot of vacationers every summer and when I am down there, which is a lot in the summer, I get sooooo irritated. Just last week I thought I was going to have a stroke just trying to drive down the street. For some reason, the vacationers forget that you're supposed to walk on the side of the street as there is still such thing as cars. People are just so much ruder trying to get places.

One thing that helps is one of the 7 habits of highly effective people "consider a paradigm shift" ie: someone cuts you off, shoves you, someone's kids are misbehaving horribly. Do we know them? Do we know their life? What they're going through? How do we know someone's not rushing to get to the hospital? How do we know that obnoxious family at Disney didn't just go through some trauma? Not that it's an excuse for people to misbehave, but it helps the person that is irritated to take a step back and just consider. Otherwise we'll let it ruin our day!

Remember Katrina? I had heard of more than one displaced family couldn't get back to their house so they up'd and went to Disney for a week...we were at Disney that week and met one such family. I'm sure mom and dad were pretty stressed out and perhaps weren't minding the kids behavior as closely as they maybe would have in other circumstances?

The point is, we just never know the other side of the coin. I get very cranky enough in the heat and the humidity that I'm not going to let someone else ruin my day. If someone shoves me at rope drop trying to get into the park, I may just pick my battles and let them be one step in front of me. Not like they're going to get anywhere faster than me! LOL

Sorry to write a book..I think this is therapy for me as I prepare for this on our trip in August!!!

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

In places that are more fast paced, people seem less polite. I don't think they mean to be rude, it just comes off that way especially to someone not used to that way of living.

See...Like I said...I never even NOTICED the difference until I came here...So it IS very different!

 

[Dani C]

what are you talking about? The government does not raise your kids, you do. Knock it off with your conspiracy theories.

Not a conspiracy theory, an observation. As I said in my original post, it is my opinion and one that you obviously do not share.

Wait - the government has limited my control as a parent? Do tell...

I have spent time working as a volunteer in the social services/child protective services area and have been amazed and horrified and what I have seen in doing so. If a parent disciplines a child by spanking them, they can be turned in for child abuse. If a parent uses physical force of any kind, they can be turned in for child abuse. Allegations require investigation which can turn lives upside down for no real justified cause.

Real abuse does occur, though many of the reports are not real abuse but rather a parent trying to teach their child proper behavior (and while I agree that reasoning with a child can be better, sometimes it doesn't work).

I have watched children be removed from their homes for their protection, sometimes justified and sometimes just rediculous. I have seen parents who were being abused by their own children while they were afraid to fight back because of what might happen to them and to their child. I have seen parents arrested for fighting back and then charged with child abuse.

I agree that protection of children is extremely important but yes, in some ways I feel the government has gone too far.

 

[kevschickee]

what are you talking about? The government does not raise your kids, you do. Knock it off with your conspiracy theories.

Wow rude much? It is a fact that the government has more of a hand in raising your child. You can't spank like you used to, strict rules in most public schools and more. I am not saying its a bad thing but it is true. To tell someone (another adult) to knock it off is awful.

 

[4HppyCamprs]

I respectfully disagree. I see examples of politeness, common sense and common decency every single day. It is all around.

Respectfully disagree...I live in a area populated by people who seem to come from the same school of thought. I am specially, I am entitled. It is a shame but the truth when I say that I am more surprised when people excersize common decency and politeness than when I encounter somebody exhibiting rudeness.

I try not to let others rudeness get me down but seriously where did this sense of entitlement come from?? Where did the I am special so i dont have to obey rules come from??