How rude!

[kaleighmariesmom]

Not out of fashion... dead.

Dead and buried, right between Common Decency and Common Sense.

I am doing my level best to raise my DS5 to be a gentleman, like my father raised me to be, because we are, sadly, a dying breed...

I am trying to raise DD right too.. sometimes I feel like the only one. I see other kids and want to cry they are so rude!! No one says "please" or "thank you" anymore...well at least around me they dont!

 

[AlternateEgo]

I once walked into a lady carrying a baby... not just ANY baby, but it appeared to be a newborn baby.

Oh I felt horrible and appologized over and over to the mom. Thank God she just nodded her head and didn't tear me one. (She didn't say anything, but I got that "stern" face)

I imagine that she told everyone how "rude" I was...

... and I can imagine all the gasps, and comments...

but you have to realize there are two sides to every story.

 

[cheap traveler]

Wow, amazing all the different views and opinions. I am pretty sheltered travel-wise. We stick to home most of the time, with our only real vacations at Disney.

When I encounter rude people in Disney, I do a few things. If they are really over the top, causing a safety issue, I speak up right away. If it is just an annoyance, I try to ignore it and tell my girls later "that is why we don't do XYZ. Did you notice how it bothered other people when that little boy did that?"

If it is a kid acting up, I can usually sympathize, and will try to give the parents a smile. I am a single mother of 2 energetic little girls, and when they start spinning or crawling on the floor, I really just try to make sure they aren't in other people's way. I only stop them if they are in the way, otherwise I just let them move.

I figure I have a lot of other things to focus on, and a big one for us is waiting our turn, saying please and thank you, and not touching other people's bodies - either by bumping or in any other way. It amazes me that I have to reinforce this so much
My DD3, in the past few weeks, has started just reaching out and touching people. I always have to remind her "we don't touch other people's bodies."

But overall, I do notice a lot of rude people at Disney, but I just try to mind my own business and not let it ruin my vacation

 

[siestakeys04]

Not out of fashion... dead.

Dead and buried, right between Common Decency and Common Sense.

I am doing my level best to raise my DS5 to be a gentleman, like my father raised me to be, because we are, sadly, a dying breed...

My dh is raising our ds 9 the same way. We have to wait sometime 3 minutes before ds catches up with the rest of us because he is holding the door for everyone.

 

[ScotsMinnie]

My DD3, in the past few weeks, has started just reaching out and touching people. I always have to remind her "we don't touch other people's bodies."

Thats hilarious! 3 year olds are funny aren't they?

I once walked into a lady carrying a baby... not just ANY baby, but it appeared to be a newborn baby.

Oh I felt horrible and appologized over and over to the mom. Thank God she just nodded her head and didn't tear me one. (She didn't say anything, but I got that "stern" face)

I imagine that she told everyone how "rude" I was...

... and I can imagine all the gasps, and comments...

but you have to realize there are two sides to every story.

The key to your story is that you apologised. I don't think she would have described you as rude. Accidents happen and as long as you apologise for any mistake then I think it is fine. I certainly would not have thought you were rude if I was in that position.



Interested though by the posters who state that they cant see why people let it ruin their holiday. Strange. Don't think anyone has said that it did spoil their time. I merely pointed out some observations I made during our recent trip. I could bore you to death about all the good things (I'll leave that for my TR!!!) and I had the most amazing time. Believe me it would take a serious event to wipe the smile off my face at Disney! I actually feel quite sorry for people who bash their way round the parks being rude. They can't really be having a good time can they?

 

[ScotsMinnie]

My dh is raising our ds 9 the same way. We have to wait sometime 3 minutes before ds catches up with the rest of us because he is holding the door for everyone.

What a star! There is nothing nicer than seeing a child display those sort of manners. Always brings a smile to my face when i see that sort of thing.

 

[duffy]

Every time I waited in a line, and everyone else waited in their place too, and the ride went off without incident, that's politeness.

I've eaten in restaurants and kids-and adults-did not cause scenes, talk loudly or disturb others. I've had hundreds of calm, peaceful meals, at WDW and in countless other restaurants.

I've ridden buses without incident. Gone to water parks and did not get trampled. Had total strangers hold doors for me. To say that politeness and common decency is dead is being just a bit dramatic.

People just tend to overlook good manners. And that's not surprising, good manners are really all about making others feel comfortable without being obvious about it. No wonder people only focus on rudeness.

 

[disszilagyi]

My family almost go run over 3 times in the same day hours apart by the same 2 people riding the electric carts. They go waaaay to fast.

 

[HardShell]

... To say that politeness and common decency is dead is being just a bit dramatic...

I would characterize it more as overstatement for effect/emphasis than high drama, since I'm the one who wrote it... but the missus accuses me of being a "drama queen" from time to time, so you may be right.

I live in a part of the country where good manners and hospitality are supposed to be a given, and I will say that over the past several decades I have witnessed bad manners overtaking good manners with each successive generation, even here. No exaggeration or "drama" at all.

And, FWIW, it's not the children I blame for that...

 

[lawsonsontour]

you do get rude people in the parks i know but you get rude people everywhere.the best way to fight them is to show just how polite they shouls be. manner make the man as my grandad used to say and i have passed this on to my kids till they have grown in to fine young adults.
these people that bash about and cut in line and always look like they are having such a stressfull time dont get the same as us from there holiday to the magic.to some people WDW is just a theme park...but who out of all of us would call it that...and thats because we have caught the magic and with it comes somthing special. let them be rude as much as they like...i know how i would sooner be.

 

[Doc CW]

My 3 year old baby sister has incredible manners while at WDW. She always says please and thank you, waits her turn in line for rides or characters, and is just very well behaved. Its bad to think that an adult could not do the same.

 

[Doc CW]

I will say that over the past several decades I have witnessed bad manners overtaking good manners with each sucessive generation, even here. No exaggeration or "drama" at all.

And, FWIW, it's not the children I blame for that...

Yeah I completely agree.

 

[ireland_nicole]

I did say that it would obviously be hard for some people without them. I know that everyone cant use wheelchairs but I would imagine that many who rent these probably can.

And rudeness did not ruin our holiday at all. As I said nothing could spoil my disney trips!!!! Just an observation thats all.

People rent ECV's at or around disney for a number of reasons, including, but not limited to, 1. leaving their personal mobility device at home so it is not damaged in a flight. 2. temporary disability 3. disability which is exacerbated by the amount of walking required at Disney and the increased heat and humidity i.e. heart conditions, asthma, severe arthritis, RA, etc.
This does not mean that a wheelchair is the most appropriate conveyance.

 

[Leajess99]

We agree with you it has gotten worse over the last few trips we've taken. Not sure if people in general are living under more stress and forgetting basic manners or what but we meet more nice people than rude and try not to let it dig under our skin too much. It's hard to look past it when you're in your happy place and people pee all over your cereal.

The incident that accused us of being rude at MNSSHP parade was more than I can handle. We get there early. Way early, we allow kids (at every parade, fireworks, etc) to sit infront of us (adults) even tho we come well before their parents gave it a thought. DS#1 has low tone sits in a stroller most parades to see and rest, one parent who actually shoved her kid infront of mine got mad b/c I didn't let her in too. She 'needed' to be with the kid. I didn't say it but wanted to shout THEN GET HERE EARLY OR KEEP HIM IN BACK WITH YOU! What I said was I'm sorry that won't work for our family, jr sits or stands with you in back. To which she said I was selfish by robbing her child of the experience when WDW is for children not adults. I had no desire to go into all the things wrong with that statement and just left it at the fact that if jr. needed to be with her for viewing he'd be in the back with her. My son's issues aren't hers and I didn't make them so but she sure tried to make her issues ours! Grabbed some cocktails at the resort and my blood pressure returned to normal.

We've seen this happen to more than just us, Illuminations multiple times, tho not to us directly there yet.

We have had this happen as well. We got to the curb in plenty of time for one of the parades and they had the guy with the boombox dancing and had hulahoops and that for the kids. Well, us adults were sitting on the curb holding the kids' spots and resting our feet (I have horrible foot pain and really should;ve used an ECV but refused to do so) while the kids were dancing and playing. This family comes up and tries to push us out of the way and got all mad when we told them the kids were sitting there and they would need to move. The one chose to stick her child in the stroller in my back since she was mad so I got kicked the whole time and rammed with the stroller. I would have moved had she been respectful but after being rammed with the stroller I sat right there. I would not expect someone to move for me if I waited til just before the parade was going to start and I am so tired of people who expect the world to be handed to them. I work so hard to teach my kids good manners but they do unfortunately see the actions of others and try to get the same results. Here it does not work and slowly they are learning that. We don't get what we want by being rude or ugly.

 

[Leajess99]

OH GEEZ you all have done it again...... Gotten me worked up about rude ppl an those without common curtsey an common sense.

Yes part of it is due to lack of spankings these days or parents being afraid to punish children in public.

Most of the rudeness an lack of courtsey comes from instant everything we only wait for 3 things these days traffic lights, drs visits an lines at disney the rest is pretty much instant most expects it all the time everywhere.

Common sense is a dying breed if not already dead if a person not born with it it can't be taught to them.

Umm, around here there are people who do not wait for traffic lights or stop signs and just run them without ever even stopping (have almost been hit and a motorcyclist was recently killed by one moronic driver). Also at my kids' doctor's office many parents whine if they have to wait 5 minutes. I always get ugly looks because my kids get called back fairly quick when we go in because they are only there for allergy shots. They are in and out in less than 5 minutes and go back by themsleves. I overheard one lady making rude comments about my kids going back by themselves so I nicely responded that they did not need me to hold their hands for allergy shots. I'm sorry she had to wait but allergy shots are taken back and done because we have to wait 30 minutes after they get them.

The rudeness is unreal anymore. But Karma does happen and I have seen it happen at WDW with a family that cut in line get escorted out of the ride area with never getting to ride.

 

[Leajess99]

To the bolded part: Oh, bull! Some of the rudest, most obnoxious kids I know get spanked all the time. And some of the nicest, sweetest, most polite kids I know never even have a voice raised to them. They learn from what they see not what they are told. The parents are rude and obnoxious so are the kids. (I do agree with the rest of your post, though)

I was spanked as a child with a belt and I am not rude or obnoxious. I may disagree with things posted on here or with people in general but you are so trying to start a debate IMO.

I do not wish to get into a spanking/non-spanking debate here but that is not even a small part of the problem. The problem is that all of us are all about "me and mine". We only care if "I" and "my family" are enjoying ourselves, are too hot, have to wait in line, want to ride first, etc. etc.

Again, so NOT true. You are trying to stereotype EVERYONE and there are many people who are not all about "ME".

No one gives a hoot about anyone else, their feelings or what they are trying to do. The man puts his kid on his shoulders and blocks everyone else's view because he only cares if his kid gets to see. The woman pushes in front to get the stickers because she only cares if her kids get stickers (and after all she paid a bundle for this trip and they deserve them ). A large percent of the people in WDW or on the street in your hometown are only thinking of what they want and what they need. They no longer see the little old lady that needs help with her packages, or the little child that keeps getting pushed out of line, or the child in the stroller that wants to see the parade too. They only see what they want/need and how they need to get to it.

You might not want to keep saying everyone and all and no one because you are likely to get some responses you don't want to hear. So I guess in your eyes the soldiers who are serving and going off to war are just doing it for the benefit they get out of it right?? I mean after all they get such wonderful pay and benefits and medical care right?? Who cares that many are coming home wounded both physically and mentally because they are just in it for themselves.@@ Sorry but there are so many people in the world that do still care and lumping everyone into the careless and heartless category is quite rude IMHO.

You teach your kids by example. If you show consideration for others around you, so will your child; simple as that.

A child can be spanked and learn consideration for others. A child does not need to be allowed to run wild to learn consideration. My kids are very considerate because they are taught to be. Sometimes I get upset at something but there is not any human that is perfect and never gets upset or frustrated at a situation. I guess since I am so heartless and uncaring and only care about myself I should go tell the kids I am taking school shopping that I can't take them now. Nah, that would never be me. I care too much about others.

 

[Leajess99]

My dh is raising our ds 9 the same way. We have to wait sometime 3 minutes before ds catches up with the rest of us because he is holding the door for everyone.

This is so my children as well. They will wait and wait and wait until everyone gets through. Funny thing is many times no one will say Thank you or even attempt to hold the door so they can catch up.

 

[Scubabride]

Hi, I am new here but have been a frequent visitor to WDW until I moved to Mexico a couple years ago. My adult daughter is there several times a year also. My kids always insist that I use a wheelchair not the scooter and then one of the Gr Kids push. I am going on my own with GS 7 and GD 10 in Oct and will have to use my scooter and it worries me. Even in the WC people often cut right in front and then get angry when they get run into.

 

[RACHELSMOM1]

As for the ECV's, I challenge everyone to go to Target or Walmart or the local grocery store and try one for the day. It'll give you a good idea how it works. How you have to let up on the accelerator to stop. Also how incredibly embarrassing it is when everyone stops and stares at you while you're using it. Be kind to people in ECV's and wheelchairs, you never know when it's going to be you that needs one.

That is an excellent suggestion!! I am one who will need an ECV soon when I visit WDW. There is no cartilage left in my knees and walking long distances is not an option, Oh the pain!! Surgery is somewhere in the future, but not now.

I had an incident with an ECV and an obviously inexperienced driver last fall when we were at the world. We were in the guest services sitting on a bench waiting our turn (City Hall on Main Street). My Rachel was in front of me in her Convaid wheelchair/stroller. I looked up and coming right toward me as fast as he could go was a man and his ECV. He apparently panicked when he could not stop and turned the wheel toward me and my DD. My leg stopped the scooter, boy was it painful. The man looked at me with anger and disgust, as if I had made him do this!! I was so angry, no apology from him, nothing!! He could have hurt a small child really bad!! I know he hurt me, and I was sitting down!!

 

[luvsJack]

A child can be spanked and learn consideration for others. A child does not need to be allowed to run wild to learn consideration. My kids are very considerate because they are taught to be. Sometimes I get upset at something but there is not any human that is perfect and never gets upset or frustrated at a situation. I guess since I am so heartless and uncaring and only care about myself I should go tell the kids I am taking school shopping that I can't take them now. Nah, that would never be me. I care too much about others.

I don't know what you are reading in my posts, but no I am not trying to start a debate. I said very clearly that I don't want to debate the spanking/non-spanking issue; so you do not have a clue what my views on that are. I never said that ALL kids who are spanked are rude and obnoxious, I said SOME of the most rude and obnoxious kids I know are spanked all the time. And that is simply because they have rude and obnoxious parents that do not teach their kids any better.

When I say "we", I mean we as a society, as a whole. No, I do not know you so I cannot speak for you or for each individual person that goes to WDW. I, myself, make every effort not to only think of me and mine and to teach my kids to always think of others. That doesn't mean that its still not true, that we (again the total we as society not you as an individual) are a very "me and mine" society and very "entitled". AGAIN--THAT DOES NOT MEAN EVERY INDIVIDUAL PERSON.

Would you mind telling me where I said anything about why soldiers go off to war?? My father was retired US Air Force, served in the tail end of WWII, Korea and Vietnam. My beloved BIL is retired military. He served in Iraq, came home and was immediately called to the gulf coast to help during Katrina (while his home was here and damaged and his father dying in the hospital). My niece's husband, who I adore, served a year in Iraq and is preparing to go to Afghanistan. I have two nephews in the Army who are in Iraq and Afghanistan. My sons have several young men that they grew up with serving at this very moment. So, please, do NOT pretend to know what I feel or do not feel is the reason a solider serves his country--which by the way does not have anything to do with this thread.

I never once said that a child cannot be taught consideration and spanked. But, just so you know, they can be taught the same thing and not spanked. Just because a child does not get spankings does not mean they are allowed to "run wild". Like I said, you have no clue how I believe a child should be disciplined. Please, do not put words in my posts that are not there.

Incidentally, not telling your kids that you are not going school shopping has no bearing on what I said. I said "me and mine" are your kids not a part of what is "you and yours"?