How NWA scr*wed up and how CBR worked it's magic

madenon

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Hi all!

I'm just back from a well-deserved 9 days at the world. It didn't start out quite as planned. On on of the flights in with NWA they managed to break both the battery-charger for my powerchair and break a vital part of the chair itself. Unfortunately I found that one out when I was in the chair and it suddenly dropped a couple of inches on me, leaving me with some dislocated bodyparts. That was the start of a big headache as NWA was a real, well, let's say they weren't very helpfull. They had me come back to the airport to fill out some forms (nice, if you are travelling alone without transportation), to then tell me "you didn't need to come, they should have dealt with it over the phone". Unfortunately the part the broke is a very specific device and the damage can only be fixed in my own country. This is where more trouble set in. I had to call in every day of those 9 days and get into their office last wednesday before flying home before finally getting the OK to get it fixed at home and payed for by NWA. :scared1:

You can imagine the stress I was under knowing the device being broken increases my risk of permanent damage including paralyses or worse. To make things even worse, I'm having major surgery in a week and without this device -> no operation -> again more healthproblems. Getting it fixed before then is very short notice, so I wasn't particularely relaxed about the whole thing. (which worked out later in the week. The company having to do the work heared the story and told me to not come home earlier, but stay and he would somehow make sure it got fixed after I got home before the op.) Meanwhile I was without a working battery-charger and more or less tied to the room, knowing I still had more than a week to go on that battery.

While Disney couldn't do anything to get the broken device fixed nor to reduce the pain and permanent health-deteriation because of this, they did everything the CM's at CBR did everything within their power to help me out. They called different places, just as long as needed to get me a charger to loan during the trip. They went to pick it up for me and are returning it as we speak. They even offered to arrange to get me another rental powerchair which unfortunately wasn't an option (need some stuff that isn't available as a rental in the US). They also arranged for me to use the ME to be able to go to the airport to fill out the needed paperwork. Because of all that happened, they sent some balloons and a card up to the room and stressed over and over again for me to just tell them if they could do anything and they'll do it. I couldn't get into the custom house or Old Port Royale without different CM's asking how it was going and if anything was needed. They've been calling and faxing allover the place for me in my battle with NWA.

If you ask me, this was great allready. But the staff at CBR didn't stop there. They payed all of the expenses made (rental charger etc.) and just put it down as a "good will gesture". Now if that aint magic, I don't know what is! One company trying to fix the ruins left by another, I don't see that everyday.

I lost 3 whole days of my trip because of this and too much park-time on the remaining days to my liking. I lost more of my health, but the CM's of CBR really saved this trip. Without their effort it would've been a 100% trip to hell without their help and they helped me to make the best of a not too good of a situation. Disney still does magic, big time! pixiedust:

NWA on the other hand, well let's just say they haven't heared the last of me yet. At MCO there was a long and hard talk about reducing risks of anything more happening to either of my chairs, but when I got to Detroit I found out now my manual is also damaged. It's like winning the wrong kind of jackpot.

But Disney and the CM's at the CBR? They made a lasting impression to say the least. They were so great and helpfull it didn't just make my trip, but it also made it possible for those back home to relax. They made sure I had 5 days of as relaxed as possible doing the different parks and enjoying a stay beyond the room and OPR.

CBR is a great resort. Not only did the look of it really appealled me, I was very pleasantly surprised with the peace and quite of the place. Sure, OPR wasn't a quite place around 9 pm, but I never run into any "crowds" at any of the beaches, pools, walkway etc. The busstops were another good experience. Downside is that it can take quite a while to get around the whole resort, but I only couldn't get on a bus once because of 2 other chairs/ecv's being in front of me yet and that was around 8 pm when the parade was cancelled due to heavy rain and thunder and everybody was trying to get back to their resorts. Besides that I never waited anywhere for a bus for more than 10 minutes, more times it being 5 or less.

I also got a great room, 3107 at Trinidad North. Yeps; a preffered room and therefor an upgrade. :dance3: Building 31 is the closest to OPR, which really really came in handy in the early morning or late evening. Also it's very close to both the Trinidad North and the OPR busstop. Downside of this room is that it's overlooking the carpark and close to the road so you can hear the busses at some moments, so if somebody doesn't want that they probably won't like this room.

All I can say is that I'm in love with the CBR and WDW. If I had the money and didn't worry about flying with any wheelchair ever again (which hopefully will wear of over time), I would have booked the bounce-back right then and there. Hack, I'm allready sorry I'm back home. I want to hear more stealdrums, I want more palmtrees, more seeing beaches first thing in the morning and feeling nice and warm. Getting back to our cloudy and rainy 50 degrees doesn't really fit me. ;)

Also I'm wondering if it's possible that I could have run into you, DCLfun? I didn't realise untill later, but I think I've seen you at Mousegear at Epcot during the weekend.
 
boy you went through :scared1:

so sorry this happened to you - especially on a WDW vacation.

hope you are better now. and your operation goes according to plan.
 
Please PM me. I recently had a problem with NWA as well. Their customer service doesn't really have the word "service" remotely related to it. I can let you know my situation and what I did to resolve it.
 

From your countdown timer, it appears that that was your first trip to WDW? Oh, goodness, how dreadful that NWA messed up things for you. But I'm so glad that CBR pulled through for you. Yay!
 
Sorry for the problems you had, seems like the Disney Majic came thru for you.
 
Yep, it was my first WDW-trip Lisa. Actually, it was my first ever trip with the powerchair also. So those first days I felt like hitting my head against a wall and asking myself how the hell I got this stupid idea of going on a solo trip with that chair? Luckily disney saved me from the headache of that. ;)

Disnut, PM is on it's way.
 
Please PM me. I recently had a problem with NWA as well. Their customer service doesn't really have the word "service" remotely related to it. I can let you know my situation and what I did to resolve it.


This brings back memories of me trying to ask one simple question to Customer Service on the phone. It took me days to get a poor answer because the internet agents are not the same as the regular agents therefore they can't help. Ahhhh
 
I'm sorry to hear of the problems you had with NWA but glad that Disney took care of you making your trip a success.

In 2001 I was staying at the Poly and when I checked in my rental ECV was not at the Poly. They showed on my reservation that it was delivered but they couldn't find it. Because of this we were ended up not getting out to the parks that night while we waited for them to find it. Because of us losing a day at the parks they credited my account one nights room cost and sent us a nice fruit basket. Since they never found the scooter and they showed they had accepted it they not only arranged for another scooter from Walker but they paid for my original scooter rental and the 2nd rental. This is one of many reasons Disney is our only vacation spot. They take care of their customers. I don't care what anyone says. There is no way you can convince me otherwise.

It turns out that the scooter was stolen from the Poly. It seems a man that was fired by one of the rental companies would go to the Disney resorts acting like he was still employed by the rental companies. He would then "pick up" ECV's from different companies and go and sell them.
 
Oh I am so sorry for all the trouble you had but kudos to the staff at CBR for doing all they could to help save your trip!

NWA is a curse on us here. It's the only airline that offers more than 1 nonstop flight out of detroit to Orlando but that isn't stopping me from thinking about flying someone else next time. We have had more trouble with this airline on more trips than I can tell you, we just loathe them. Unfortunately because we're a major hub they kind of have us in a stranglehold.

But you're right, their customer service does not service ANYONE.

One time, I kid you not. We had two parents in ICU in different states at the same time (my dad here and DH's mom in another state) we booked tickets over the phone to fly literally, from one hospital to another, and NWA said when we got to the airport they would credit us vouchers we had from another trip they'd messed up on us. Well, we get there, they refuse to take them. When I ask to speak to a manager, the guy at the desk hands me a customer comment card. . .and walks away. True story.

I could go on all day about this airline. I would just advise anyone with any other choice NOT to fly them if at all possible.

Laren
 
Thank goodness for Disney magic! Just imagine what your trip would have been like if the staff at the CBR hadn't been so accommodating? Hope your health is better soon!
 
Ana, that sounds like NWA allright!

Strwlady, what a horrid story. Stealing ecv's of all things, geez. Good to read how they dealt with it at the Poly. I can understand your feeling 'bout disney. I'm in no way blind to the things that don't go right, for me or others, but the way they saved me this trip has earned the CM's at CBR so much credit they won't run out of it like that.

Laren, unbelievable how they dealt with the voucher-thing! It just keeps bazzling me how many of their staff at the airports have a "I don't care" additude. I understand the feeling of being in a stranglehold. KLM is the same for us for a number of destinations. KLM has a very bad reputation overhere and not just because of the taste of their peanuts. ;) I refuse to fly them, but sometimes it doesn't make the choices easier.

MST, I don't even want to think about what happened if not for the CBR CM's. They saved my day and I'll make sure they know about that. The damage done healthwise because of this manhandling is permanent which makes me livid if I think about it too much. It's one thing if I decide to trade in some of my health to go to wdw, but it's another things if I'm forced to trade in more due to a companies bad service and don't care additude. All I know is that they lost one customer. I'm very very loyal to an airline if I have a correct experience, but no way they'll ever get a dime from me again.

At this point it's a principle thing for me. I'll do anything I can to make sure this policy gets changed (it's caused by the way they load the aircrafts) and shape up the additude of those working the desks and phones. It happened to me but there is no need for it to ever ever happen again in the same way. There are simple things they could have done to prevent this. Their refusal to even hear me out about that uptill now only makes me more determined to fix this where possible and make them feel it where it hurts them; money. Ofcourse I'll make them pay for the fixing of the chair, but at this point I'm thinking about maybe taking it further. Money wont get me back my health or the days I lost because of this, but when they refuse to let their heart or normall standard speak, I'll just have to reach for the thing that hurts them. Obviously nothing gets to them but money, unfortunately. But again, hopefully they'll get hit in the head with some :wizard: soon and they decide to learn from this and change their customer care aroun 360 degrees. One can allways hope, can't they. ;)
 
Laren, unbelievable how they dealt with the voucher-thing! It just keeps bazzling me how many of their staff at the airports have a "I don't care" additude. I understand the feeling of being in a stranglehold. KLM is the same for us for a number of destinations. KLM has a very bad reputation overhere and not just because of the taste of their peanuts. I refuse to fly them, but sometimes it doesn't make the choices easier.

I think Northwest and KLM are related as far as company wise. . .I see planes at Metro with both logos on them all the time- I bet NWA is the reason that KLM is bad too!

I actually got the state attorney general involved with one thing we had with NWA honestly we've had so many bad experiences with them that I forget which case I did that in.

In addition to their lousy service record (we had plane malfunctions several trips in a row, causing lengthy delays and then finally, once, an 'aborted takeoff' which is an experience I hope NEVER to go through again! Our last 2 trips on them the planes were okay but one flight home from Hartford the wing literally looked rusted on the old DC9 they had us on (the planes are older than I am, they need to be retired! Who would drive a 35 year old car unless it was mint or something? These planes are NOT!) but the way they handled the weather delay in Orlando was all wrong a few days ago (long story)

Anyway, I hope that you can get all your money back and that the long term impact on your health won't be too bad. I hope your surgery goes well too!!!

:grouphug:

You definitely deserve a 'do over' on your Disney trip after you've gotten better and are ready to travel again!!!

Laren

p.s. you know, at several points on our trip I said to my husband who was pushing me in a wheelchair (I am not in one all the time but cannot manage Disney at all without one) "If I were disabled and travelling alone I'd be terrified here, there is so much more they could do to make the resorts and the parks disabled-access friendly." Hearing your story, it's exactly what I had feared could happen to someone. I think when I write Disney I'll mention some of the things that occurred to me as to how they can improve things to better serve their disabled guests!
 


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