How many homes do you own?

[freckles and boo]

(I think the more important question is: Did John McCain get any help from crooks when buying any of those houses? )



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Considering the bulk of the "family" wealth was inherited by Cindy from her father who was reputed to have major mob connections, I would say there is a chance that, yes, there were crooks involved. This is especially true if you go back to his early political races.

 

[Handbag Lady]

I think maybe I am an idealist, but I really don't want someone that rich (be it from whatever party) who is so out of touch with the regular person to be president.

Do they know how much a gallon of gas or milk costs? Or daycare? Or how much the average American makes in relation to how much it costs to fill a gas tank? You can still be rich and know these things, I suppose. But if you don't know how many homes you own, would you?

 

[connorlevismom]

I think maybe I am an idealist, but I really don't want someone that rich (be it from whatever party) who is so out of touch with the regular person to be president.

Do they know how much a gallon of gas or milk costs? Or daycare? Or how much the average American makes in relation to how much it costs to fill a gas tank? You can still be rich and know these things, I suppose. But if you don't know how many homes you own, would you?

You might as well not vote because this pretty much covers all politicians. They are all out of touch with the "common man".

Kristine

 

[pr surfer]

What did Sen Obama do with the windfall profits he made from his book sales?

Paid off his and his wife's student loan debt.

Sounds like good fiscal judgement as well.

 

[legalsea]

Exactly! The Queen of England is also out of touch.

Queen Elizabeth not only does not carry any actual money in her purse, but I bet a quid versus a guinea that she is not sure how many homes she owns.

Back in my day Queens carried their own money, and knew exactly what they owned!

 

[Geoff_M]

That can's been opened. Old story, nobody cared--next?

There's an old expression that applies to politics too... "It's best to let sleeping dogs lie."

 

[loco4dis]

A better question, relative to the '08 campaign, would be:

How many homes have you had a convicted felon illegally help you pay for as a bribery down payment for future political favors?

The answer? McCain-0; Obama-1

 

[Laura]

An elitist is called by the way they act, not how much money they have. Plain and simple, McCain does not come off as a snob and Obama does. That is what I consider to be an elitist.

Nope, just a socialist. So it doesn't surprise me that Obama would depict this as a fault of McCain's.

Riiiiight.

How do I count the ways...Let's see, first John Kerry was totally smeared by the RNC and its supporters because he happened to be married to a wealthy wife and that was completely unacceptable - but now it is completely okay that Cindy is so wealthy, because well just because we've completely changed our minds and standards. Then conservatives are constantly trying to show what an "elitist" Obama is, when the true elite is McCain, but once again, different standards changed and adjusted to fit your scenario. The list just goes on and on. You can't see the total hypocrisy in some of these ridiculous Obama bashing threads that will discuss anything except real issues?

Exactly. Very well said.

 

[freckles and boo]

A better question, relative to the '08 campaign, would be:

How many homes have you had a convicted felon illegally help you pay for as a bribery down payment for future political favors?

The answer? McCain-0; Obama-1

Yeah, because if your wealth came from classy old-school mob dealings it is much more legitimate.

 

[loco4dis]

Yeah, because if your wealth came from classy old-school mob dealings it is much more legitimate.

Well, I'm glad we both agree that Obama has some unseemly "classy old-school mob dealings" a la Tony Rezko. I think this is a real live bipartisan moment!

You might enjoy this article: BARACK'S FAVORS FOR CORRUPT CRONY

http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/08212008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/baracks_favors_for_corrupt_crony_125390.htm

 

[freckles and boo]

Well, I'm glad we both agree that Obama has some unseemly "classy old-school mob dealings" a la Tony Rezko. I think this is a real live bipartisan moment!

You might enjoy this article: BARACK'S FAVORS FOR CORRUPT CRONY

http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/08212008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/baracks_favors_for_corrupt_crony_125390.htm

Dude, I live in Chicago. Actually I live in a pimple of suburbia surrounded by Chicago on three sides. I have heard about Rezko ad nauseum. Obama hasn't been indicted and unless he is I am reserving judgment, although I am sure it won't be long for Blago.

I love that nobody has addressed the issue of McCain's connections though. I guess they don't matter if he is your man. Same here. I think that is our true "bi-partisan" moment.

 

[corndog]

Paid off his and his wife's student loan debt.

Sounds like good fiscal judgement[sic] as well.

It depends on what the rates were. Mine are at 1.875%. I'm on the 30 year payment plan and will never pay them off early, no matter how much money I have. The rate is lower than inflation. It would be poor fiscal judgment to pay them off early.

 

[pr surfer]

Well, I'm glad we both agree that Obama has some unseemly "classy old-school mob dealings" a la Tony Rezko. I think this is a real live bipartisan moment!

You might enjoy this article: BARACK'S FAVORS FOR CORRUPT CRONY

http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/08212008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/baracks_favors_for_corrupt_crony_125390.htm

wow... the New York Post. Couldn't find any smears in the National Enquirer?

 

[freckles and boo]

It depends on what the rates were. Mine are at 1.875%. I'm on the 30 year payment plan and will never pay them off early, no matter how much money I have. The rate is lower than inflation. It would be poor fiscal judgment to pay them off early.

Mine were 8-1/2%. He is a few years older than I am and rates sucked in the eighties. I didn't have the option of a 30 year plan.

 

[loco4dis]

wow... the New York Post. Couldn't find any smears in the National Enquirer?

That's what John Edwards said…

 

[loco4dis]

Oh, one more thing.

The Obamas made $4 million last year.

How many homes does Obama's brother own?

None! He lives in a shack in Kenya, existing on less than $1 a month!

What was that Obama said: "When you do it to the LEAST OF MY BROTHERS, you do it unto me ..." Unless, of course, the brother is, you know, my actual brother.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

(What's that old saying? This is like shooting fish in a barrel?)

 

[Laura]

Oh, one more thing.

The Obamas made $4 million last year.

How many homes does Obama's brother own?

None! He lives in a shack in Kenya, existing on less than $1 a month!

What was that Obama said: "When you do it to the LEAST OF MY BROTHERS, you do it unto me ..." Unless, of course, the brother is, you know, my actual brother.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

(What's that old saying? This is like shooting fish in a barrel?)

You're blaming Barack for his brother's problems?

"I live like a recluse, no-one knows I exist."

Embarrassed by his penury, he said that he does not does not mention his famous half-brother in conversation.

"If anyone says something about my surname, I say we are not related. I am ashamed," he said.

Sounds like he wasn't trying hard to be found, he's not even in contact with his own mother, and Barack is suddenly responsible?

 

[bimshire]

Do you know?

McCain doesn's seem to know how many homes he owns!

WASHINGTON — Days after he cracked that being rich in the U.S. meant earning at least $5 million a year, Republican presidential candidate John McCain acknowledged that he wasn’t sure how many houses he and his wealthy wife actually own.


http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/21/mccain-unsure-number-of-homes-he-and-wife-own/

Anyone that can't keep their home due to foreclosure and votes for McCain is more than nuts. Wonder what those folks in Appalachia think who are just keeping their heads above water?

 

[disneyfan67]

wow... the New York Post. Couldn't find any smears in the National Enquirer?

That's what John Edwards said…

I was about ready to say the same thing, but you beat me to it loco4dis. The N.E certainly did a better job than any of the MSM on the John Edwards affair story. The MSM couldn't even be bothered to report the story, yet they the audacity to claim there's no such thing as bias.

 

[Quiksilvr]

I think maybe I am an idealist, but I really don't want someone that rich (be it from whatever party) who is so out of touch with the regular person to be president.

Do they know how much a gallon of gas or milk costs? Or daycare? Or how much the average American makes in relation to how much it costs to fill a gas tank? You can still be rich and know these things, I suppose. But if you don't know how many homes you own, would you?

When was the last time that we had a president who wasn't (a) rich, (b) part of the establishment, (c) out of touch with the "regular folks", or (d) someone who became part of the established elite after growing up poor?

Obama - grew up poor, went to Columbia University and Harvard Law (and was, IIRC, EIC of the Harvard Law Review)
McCain - USNA graduate, son (and grandson) of four-star US Navy admirals

Bush II - son of a President, rich family, Yale and Harvard Biz grad, etc.
Clinton - grew up poor, went to Georgetown for college, Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar, and Yale Law School.
Bush I - another Yalie, same elitist issues as Bush II
Reagan - Grad of Eureka College, B-movie star (so far the least elitist of the crowd)
Carter - USNA graduate, peanut farmer and business owner in Georgia before politics.

So, of all the presidents since the late 1970s, only good old Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan are the presidents with connections to the "common folk" that aren't laughable, and even these guys weren't exactly middle-class folks.