How is MK with no Legacy FP?

[practicallyperfect77]

It's not quite as precise as that. The mickey head on the scanner is huge in comparison..but if you tap one of the "ears"...it doesn't read. You basically need to tap "your" mickey somewhere in the general vacinity of the "middle" of mickey's face (keep in mind, the scanner is sort of dome shaped)...and actually I had best results just below center.

You'd have to tap the center of your card in the same general area to get them to read.

The only difference is you don't need to contort your arm or wrist to make the contact...

I think the contorting of the arm is what had me all messed up. Especially when trying to pay for things. You can't really see what you're hitting either. Sometimes the CM would have me roll my wrist....that seemed to work a little better.

 

[Laketravis]

The MB's contain both LR and SR RFiD's. (How's that for a slew of acronyms?).

They probably chose to use SR for admission taps so as not to confuse the reader when there is more than one guest in close proximity.

The SR sensor only has a range of an inch or less.

 

[practicallyperfect77]

sorry. my post wasn't very clear. As offsite we could not change using the mobile app. But we split, and part of the time we were onsite, and we could then use the mobile app. It was super helpful to change things as we went based on our schedule and wait times. It's a big bummer for off site, as we usually are.

No problema! Just making sure I hadn't missed anything. I'm watching off site closely b/c next trip is with my sis and her fam so 3 adults and 3 kids. It will be a once in a lifetime for them. It'll cost about $750 more to stay onsite for a week vs off. that's a lot of money to me but if we don't get prebook, I'll save up more and go at a later time.

 

[pilferk]

I think the contorting of the arm is what had me all messed up. Especially when trying to pay for things. You can't really see what you're hitting either. Sometimes the CM would have me roll my wrist....that seemed to work a little better.

Yup, we had to do similar things at times. Even the room key was a little flaky...my kids had an easier time because their hands/wrists are smaller and they had an easier time getting their wrist wedged into the "key swipe" area. Which, of course, thrilled them to no end.

 

[joelkfla]

Am I reading these posts correctly - your magic band won't scan if it's on the the bottom of your wrist because it rolled around? What kind of range do these RFID scanners have that a couple of inches more distance causes them to fail?

The RFID easy tag in my car for the local toll roads is read by radios 15 feet above the car at 70mph!

When you're passing under a receiver on the highway, hopefully no other car is within 10 feet of you.

At WDW, the next kid in the family may have his band 6" behind his sibling's in his eagerness to get in.

 

[Angel Ariel]

It's not quite as precise as that. The mickey head on the scanner is huge in comparison..but if you tap one of the "ears"...it doesn't read. You basically need to tap "your" mickey somewhere in the general vacinity of the "middle" of mickey's face (keep in mind, the scanner is sort of dome shaped)...and actually I had best results just below center.

You'd have to tap the center of your card in the same general area to get them to read.

The only difference is you don't need to contort your arm or wrist to make the contact...

Like I said..we have RFID cards for the metro here, and yes I have to hit the card to the scanner, but it doesn't have to be so precise. Heck, DH has had his metro card in his wallet and still been able to scan it.

I'll definitely take cards over having to contort my arm/wrist

 

[xie]

Yeah, right? I zoom thru these all week long at 90mph and they've never missed a toll:

Texas Toll Road 85mph Speed Limit

I suspect that the "problem" is that they can't fine-tune the sensitivity correctly.

Clearly, the ride sensors can pick them up from a distance, since photos are showing up on peoples' Photopass accounts. But for any "admission" or "payment" system, you MUST touch.

What I mean by that is this: they could turn it up, and the scanner could pick up say, everything in a 5 or 10 foot radius. That wouldn't be good as it would pick up a great many guests - Disney is nothing if not packed in with people most of the time. Picture 20 guests within a 10 foot radius, easily common at WDW - 5 of them have legitimate FP+ for the current time, and 15 of them do not - should the thing turn blue, or green? If it turns blue how would the CM know who to bust?

So the solution might be to have it scan as many as 6-12 inches away, but perhaps they can't tune it to do that, if you know what I mean. Or there are other problems with reading multiple RFIDs when it allows even a 1 foot radius. That could cause a problem with entry, for example, where the scanners are only a couple feet apart. It might pick up the other guy's RFID tag behind you or beside you and spit out an error because your fingerprint then didn't match. Tiny radius, physical contact is probably what they had to settle on to keep themselves out of trouble.

 

[SmallWorld71]

Not sure if this was mentioned already, but no matter what side of this debate you are on, I highly recommend checking out Josh's blog that he posted today on easywdw.com.

It has lot of useful info. on FP+

 

[DebbieB]

Not sure if this was mentioned already, but no matter what side of this debate you are on, I highly recommend checking out Josh's blog that he posted today on easywdw.com.

It has lot of useful info. on FP+

Nice review

http://www.easywdw.com/uncategorize...t-day-1and-fastpass-kiosks-part-1/#more-12769

 

[annacali]

Did I understand Josh right? Offsite guests can only book FP+ at an actual kiosk due to the need to scan tickets? So all the extra CMs and extra stations with IPads are worthless to offsite guests?

 

[SmallWorld71]

Did I understand Josh right? Offsite guests can only book FP+ at an actual kiosk due to the need to scan tickets? So all the extra CMs and extra stations with IPads are worthless to offsite guests?

I believe so. I'm sure someone will correct me if it's not true.

 

[dayvewc]

Did I understand Josh right? Offsite guests can only book FP+ at an actual kiosk due to the need to scan tickets? So all the extra CMs and extra stations with IPads are worthless to offsite guests?

I believe so. I'm sure someone will correct me if it's not true.

I could be misreading it, but I think it was just the iPad location in town square theatre that couldn't scan tickets. I think the CM's with iPads can. :shrug:

Willing to admit I can be wrong.

 

[Rhiannona]

If the park does not have legacy fastpasses all guests can be helped by the fixed kiosks or the mobile kiosks. All the iPass have a scanning sled on them that works with RFID media. I.e your park tickets or your magic bands. The only real difference with fixed and mobile is the fixed can take a larger group and tends to run a bit faster. Hope this helps.