How do you NOT tip a bad server on free dining???

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faindrops27 said:
Chobie, why should we sleep any different because we are on the free dining plan. Please explain the logic. To that statement??

It was sarcasm directed at the OP for trying to figure out how they can stiff a server when they are not paying for the tip in the first place. I have nothing against the free dining, if I was not a Florida resident with a annual pass I would be signing up the free dining myself. I just cannot understand how someone could get free dining and worry about how to stiff the server should they get bad service.

I'm not saying that someone should have to put up with willfully bad service because they are getting free dining, but why would you plan on what to do if that happens and just not cross that bridge when/of you get there?

It jsut seems like they resent the fact that the tip is already included and they can't hold it over the servers' head to get what they want. As you can see from this thread what one person considers good service another person considers bad service.
 
I don't think OP was trying to figure out a way to stiff a server for the sake of stiffing a server. I too have read some pretty bad reviews of service here as of late and can see where the thought would come to mind while reading those reviews. Most people, if a server truly ruins a meal (like some reviews recently where entire meals aren't even brought out - not talking about too quick with a check, too slow with a check, checking in too many times, not checking in enough - the relatively minor pet peeves we all have), aside from speaking to a manager, make their feelings known to the server financially. With the dining plan, you can't do that. That server will make the same 18% that the server who did everything perfectly will make.

Why would the OP be asking about it now? Why does anyone ask about anything on here before the trip? So they're prepared when they get there. And hopefully OP won't have to use any of the advice that was sought.
 
Sandi12404 said:
If I leave your check on the table because you say you don't need anything it's not because I want you out, I just feel that if you want to leave you don't have to wait any longer. of couse I usually say something along the lines of "I'm just going to leave this here, there's no rush and if you need anything else just let me know".

See that's what I'm talking about. . or. . what I'm not talking about, LOL. I'm guessing this was directed at my posts. But I was talking about the waitresses that I occassionally run across that drop the check off within minutes of the entree and then I never see them again to the point of having to flag down another waitress to get a refill (which I hate doing since I know they're busy with their own tables so I'm sucking on ice cubes hoping to catch a glimpse of my waitress, LOL) It's not a matter of checking in too much or too little. . . it's the not checking in at all.
 
I agree that tipping a server that clearly does not earn that tip is hard to swallow. And I agree with the other post, you need to write a letter to Disney regarding that particular CM. But to make you feel a little better, although the the gratituity (18%) I believe is added in the waiter only received 10% of that. The others are split between other staff at the restaurant. So knowing that when I did receive exceptional service I did tip extra which did go directly in their pockets.
 

chobie said:
I am working AND going to school so I will not have to wait tables again. It's people like the OP that keep me up at night studying so I will never have to wait tables again. Both my DH and I have done our share of working 2 and 3 jobs at at time to keep our heads above water, and one of those jobs was always waiting tables. People who thought about how they were going to stiff the server before they went out to eat were always miserable to wait on from the moment they sat down. Why would someone be planning on how they react if they get bad service is beyond me.

I just hope you are not one of those people...

chobie said:
It was sarcasm directed at the OP for trying to figure out how they can stiff a server when they are not paying for the tip in the first place. I have nothing against the free dining, if I was not a Florida resident with a annual pass I would be signing up the free dining myself. I just cannot understand how someone could get free dining and worry about how to stiff the server should they get bad service.


You are really hurting my feelings. I know you probably do not care, and that is fine, but just like you I am a very very hard working mom raising a couple of kids, not to mention caring for sick kids AND there parents in a hospital. I'm very much in the service industry and never have i said anywhere that i am TRYING to come up with a way to stiff a server. I usually tip 20% or better, and I've waited my share of tables in the past. Do you mind not disparaging my integrity any longer. I would really appreciate it.

I do however thank those who realize my question was hypothetical in nature, not any sort of planning phase for my trip. how stupid does this sound??...***DAY ONE: Going to Epcot, eating at Le Cellier, complaining to the manager of the restaurant 10 minutes after arrival to try and get out of giving a free tip to the waiter, Riding Soaring after lunch, ***.

Good grief, i, like the rest of you are paying a pretty penny (or 400,000 of them) to go on this trip and like the rest of you, i hope, pray and PLAN on having a good time. It really does take a lot to rile me up while dining, especially if I'm already so excited about my first trip to Disney. (infact i think this thread has me more riled up than i will probably get on my worst day at a restaurant...atleast i've never been on the verge of tears in a restaurant!)

I just want you to know that being a pediatric nurse, If i can handle a stressed out, ready to explode, scared Mother of a very sick child, and keep it cool, I can handle a rude server in a restaurant with class.

This is the last time I will post on this thread. If you feel the need to continue to berate me for asking a simple question or opinion then go for it, but at the same time instead of dissing me for being antagonistic, maybe you should look in a mirror.

Have a nice day, and for those about to go to Disney (lol, or those like me who are still over 100 days out or more) have a fab trip!!! I cant wait! :wizard:

Peace :hippie:
 
I apologize to the OP for impuning her intergity. I see a lot of anti-server attitude on these boards and having waited table for many years in the past I had a lot of customers reduce me to tears by treating me like pond scum for being a server. The last waiting job I had, I carried around a picture of my kids so I could look at it everytime a customer was treating me like **** so I could remember who I was working for. There is a very prevalent attitude out there wherein people think that they can be abusive to servers because they are tipping them.

I'm sorry I thought you were one of those. Maybe we should all treat each other with respect and give each other the benefit of the doubt. I should have done that for you and I also feel you should give the benefit of the doubt to the servers that they would not purposely ruin your evening. If you do get bad service it could just as well be the fault of WDW for not adding extra staff to deal with the increase of sit-down customers that come from offering the dining plan.
 
I think that the OP has received many answers to her original question and before anyone else is hurt on this thread...server or patron, I am locking it.
 
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