hot water heater recommendations

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we are in the market for a new hot water heater. ours hasn't failed yet, but it is 9 years old and a cheaper model, so we are probably running out of time.

i have read about serious problems with whirlpool flame locks, but was wondering if anyone knew of any other models that were good or that we should avoid. we are looking for a 40 gallon natural gas heater.

tia!
 
We had a Lochinvar 40 gal installed in August. It is really good, but expensive. We paid $950 for ours. The reason we spent so high is that our last water heater only lasted 2 years.
 
We bought a Maytag 40 gal about 2 months ago. Easy to install and I believe has a 15 year warranty.
 
Knock on wood.....but ours is the original when the house was built....1957!!! Every so often the pilot light blows out but otherwise it is just fine.....Our boiler (furnace) just went last year (it was the same age)....so I know it is just a matter of time....
 

Since you have NG, have you thought about a tankless hot water heater?

They're a little more expensive but you're supposed to save a bundle on costs and have pretty much endless hot water. Also, there's a $300 tax credit available.

Something like this?

http://www.foreverhotwater.com/
 
charade - thanks for the tip about tankless, but we looked into that and decided against it. among other reasons, we are already getting the maximum energy tax credit for other improvements we have done.

lisa, 1957 - i can't believe it! our water heater is working fine, but i am afraid that some day i will come home to 40 gallons of water in our basement. :rotfl: our inspector recommended we replace it sooner rather than later.

any other suggestions?
 
I'm curious as to why. I've been thinking about a tankless water when this one goes.
 
We got a 40 gallon one at Home Depot a few years back. We've had no problems with it (I think its a GE?).

We're thinking of replacing the furnace soon. Its original (house was built in 1962) so it will need to be done.
 
Charade said:
I'm curious as to why. I've been thinking about a tankless water when this one goes.

in order of most important to least important:

1) to get a tankless water heater that would meet our needs we would need to spend a large amount of money on the product, installation, and other add-ons. it would be slightly more than 3 times the cost of a standard water heater. we also would have to have some work done on the gas connections we currently have as we have been told they are not appropriate for the tankless heaters. at this point, we really do not have the $$$$ that this would cost. we were told that as best we would save ~$100/year. given the initial investment it would take us quite some time to recoup, let alone save. on top of that we are not likely to be in this house for more than 5 years. since we are already receiving the maximum energy credit from other improvements, we cannot include the $300 credit in our savings.

2) going hand in hand with #1, people we know who have gone tankless have long wait times for hot water when they first turn on the sink/shower. this is apparently a well-known problem with tankless heaters. to avoid this annoyance (and avoid wasting all that water while you are waiting for it to heat up) many installers recommend a special pump system or an additional heater at the source, which of course increases the cost.

3) we did not find the flow rates of many of the tankless units to be satisfactory for our water usage needs. for example, in the mornings, we are generally both taking showers one right after the other and using hot water in the kitchen. if you are interested in tankless, do some math on what your peak time flow rate usage might be. if anyone in your family takes long showers, this might not be the best way to go.

4) depending on where you live, in the winter you might actually use more gas with a tankless heater than with a standard heater due to the very cold temperature of incoming water and the additional energy needed to quickly heat this water as opposed to heating it up and then letting it sit until it needs to be heated again in a standard heater. if this is the case, you may not actually end up saving any money other than the initial $300 tax credit.

5) it is my understanding that the tankless units also need electricity to run part of the system. if you lose power you lose hot water. we have power outages pretty frequently where i live. i suppose you could hook it up to a ups, but this is just another headache.

6) this is not a concern for us as we have gas, but everything i have read has said that completely electric tankless heaters are even worse than traditional water heaters. the only tankless heater that people should consider is the ng variety. so, if you don't already have ng, this could be an issue for you.

i am sure that tankless is a good option for many people, we just decided it was not a good fit for us at this time. if you are interested in getting one, i would advise you to do your homework and be sure that your information is coming from unbiased sources. the frst sentence on the link you posted is, for example, somewhat misleading. you do not pay to heat your water 24 hours/day with a standard heater. it heats and then sits in the insulated tube until it needs to be heated again or is used. it's not like it is constantly being heated with the gas running 24/7.
 
We also looked into tankless heaters, and noticed all the issues above. But, there were are few more for us:

1) We have ng, so we were warned that our ng lines might not be big enough, and we would have to go have larger lines involved.

2) We have two heaters "chained" together due to the size of our house. We were warned that, even with two tankless systems, we would not find that we could run as many appliances (shower, dishwasher, washing machine) at the same time, since the water delivery system can only heat up so much water at a time, instead of having a "store" of water in the tanks.

3) Repair costs on these units are VERY high. And, unfortunately reliability seems to be less than traditional models.

We are all for installing more energy efficient models of all appliances, but I don't think tankless are a very good answer for us right now.

However, we are in the market for two new water heaters, so I would LOVE to hear any feedback...both good and bad.
 
Our plumber installs and recommends Bradford White water heaters. Ours is going strong, and we have "bad" well water which doesn't help--.
 
Beca said:
We also looked into tankless heaters, and noticed all the issues above. But, there were are few more for us:

1) We have ng, so we were warned that our ng lines might not be big enough, and we would have to go have larger lines involved.

2) We have two heaters "chained" together due to the size of our house. We were warned that, even with two tankless systems, we would not find that we could run as many appliances (shower, dishwasher, washing machine) at the same time, since the water delivery system can only heat up so much water at a time, instead of having a "store" of water in the tanks.

3) Repair costs on these units are VERY high. And, unfortunately reliability seems to be less than traditional models.

We are all for installing more energy efficient models of all appliances, but I don't think tankless are a very good answer for us right now.

However, we are in the market for two new water heaters, so I would LOVE to hear any feedback...both good and bad.


These are good to know. We thought about tankless when we need to replace our water heaters (we have 2 also) but haven't done any research on them at all. I think we will just skip those and stick with the traditional ones.
 
Wow, you guys did your homework. The only thing I can add is the point about a power outage. Our water heater is the direct vent ng type. Meaning it only uses regular PVC pipe for exhaust insteated of being tied into chimney. The water heater has an electric booster fan on the exhaust. It also has an electric ignition. Therefore if the power goes out, it doesn't run.
 
I've got a Kenmore. I like it. I can take a shower and run the washer at the same time. The water heats up really quickly and it was reasonably priced
 


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