home resort advantages

[dis2cruise]

since everything is based on points what is the advantage
of having the beach club as your home resort vs okw
since we can buy okw points cheaper than the beach club.

 

[DVCLiz]

since everything is based on points what is the advantage
of having the beach club as your home resort vs okw
since we can buy okw points cheaper than the beach club.

You are able to make a reservation at your home resort up to 11 months before your vacation. You can only use your points at a non-home resort at the 7 month mark. So, if you want to stay at a DVC resort that is popular at a certain time of year, it's best to have that resort as your "home" - you get a head start on everyone else who wants that resort, bercause you get 4 extra months to make your reservation. It's a question of competing with "just" the other owners of that resort, vs. everyone who is a DVC owner at the 7 month mark.

 

[Deb & Bill]

As more DVC villas are constructed and sold, there will be more members fighting to get the "hot" times. If you could only stay at your home resort, which resort would that be? Many members make a reservation at their home resort at 11 months out and see if they can switch at 7 months. If switching to that dream hotel didn't work out, would you be happy at your home resort?

If you want a GV, you need to have a resort that has GV. If you want AKV Concierge, you need to have AKV points. If you want the BW view, you need BWV points. If Christmas isn't Christmas without a stay at the VWL, you need VWL points.

Thus, the reason why many members own at more than one resort.

 

[debbiepump]

I own at the BCV and have been trying to stay at the BWV and have yet been able to (just for a change of pace)! I go the mid week, for about 4 to 5 days, on one of the first two weeks of December. I called Friday right at the 7month mark, was told BWV was booked! I'll call Monday and get waitlisted, but that has yet to even work out for me. I think my karma for staying at the BWV just isn't there, sure am glad I at least can book at 11 months at the BCV. Best advice I could give anyone, buy where you want to stay!

 

[dis2cruise]

I own at the BCV and have been trying to stay at the BWV and have yet been able to (just for a change of pace)! I go the mid week, for about 4 to 5 days, on one of the first two weeks of December. I called Friday right at the 7month mark, was told BWV was booked! I'll call Monday and get waitlisted, but that has yet to even work out for me. I think my karma for staying at the BWV just isn't there, sure am glad I at least can book at 11 months at the BCV. Best advice I could give anyone, buy where you want to stay!

i did notice that resale for bcv is more expensive than bwv why is there a difference in price??

 

[Deb & Bill]

i did notice that resale for bcv is more expensive than bwv why is there a difference in price??

BCV is smaller and newer than BWV. Lots of people want to swim at Stormalong Bay and the only way to do that is to stay at BCV. Plus if you want one of the 25 dedicated two bedroom villas with two queen beds in the second bedroom at BCV, you'd better have BCV points.

 

[hakepb]

There's also length of contract. Some resorts points expire several years before others. (Is that now a range of 2042 - 2057?)

 

[CarolMN]

There's also length of contract. Some resorts points expire several years before others. (Is that now a range of 2042 - 2057?)

Yes, that's true.

Interestingly enough, the smaller resorts that offer contracts that expire in 2042 are more expensive via resale than are those with the longer contracts. In general, the BCV, VWL & BWV resorts book up more quickly than do the other WDW DVC resorts. That's why members who want to stay at one of those resorts during popular times of the year buy points at those resorts. (VB & HHI and members who want to stay at one of the beach resorts during popular times or for popular units also buy points at the beach resorts).

Bottom line: It's supply and demand. Currently, VWL, BCV & BWV have less supply and more demand than do the other DVC resorts.

 

[crisi]

There are four, two have been itemized.

Home resort booking advantage. For some people this isn't a big deal - if they get a room at Disney they will be happy. Some DISers have sold the resort they originally purchased because they discovered it was difficult to get what they wanted when they wanted it unless they owned there. How difficult? Depends on what you want when and how you define difficult.

Contract length - some resorts have longer contracts (AKL, SSR and SOME OKW).

Dues - you pay dues on your home resort, regardless of where you stay. If you fall in love with OKW and always want to stay there, it would probably be a little silly to buy BWV and pay an extra $100+ per year in dues.

The forth you figured out yourself, buy in price. Again, if your heart is at OKW, with its low resale costs, its silly to buy BCV for a lot more money.

The fact that people are willing to pay a lot more money for a shorter contract and higher dues at BCV should tell you something about how important some people believe the home resort advantage is. My own take is that any BCV contract being sold now resale for significantly more than other contracts is being sold to someone who will take their room during their advantage window, making that resort harder to book.

(And nearly everyone who comes on and is buying a BWV resale is doing it specifically for rooms during F&W).

 

[salmoneous]

(And nearly everyone who comes on and is buying a BWV resale is doing it specifically for rooms during F&W).

I think there are also folks who realize that getting standard view rooms at BWV allows you to buy 20% fewer points and pay 20% less in maintenance fees. If you want to stay in a Standard View room, you really want to be an owner. Those rooms are tougher to get a the 7-month mark than BCV.

 

[mydogdrew]

Over the course of time, points tend to end up in the hands of folks who intend to use their booking advantage. A subset of the original purchasers buy whatever is for sale but resale puts points in the hands of owners interested in using their home booking advantage.

This contributes some to the increased difficulty of booking inside 7 months. I would guess that a higher % of BCV reservations are booked 7+ months on average than any other resort.

 

[Sabor]

Personally - I think the booking window as a whole is overrated and over emphasized on these boards with the exception of HHI and Vero in the summer and Xmas /Easter Week at WDW.

I have been an OKW member for over 10 years have take over 25 DVC vacations and have never not gotten what I wanted , granted all non OKW ressies were made at 7 months but we have done BCV 3x , BWV , Vwl ( this past April) and HHI 2x.

Personally I dont understand why anyone would buy anywhere other than OKW -- least points cost for vacations , Low annual dues , Lower buy in cost, largest rooms in WDW - nothing compares , nothing even comes close.

 

[crisi]

Personally - I think the booking window as a whole is overrated and over emphasized on these boards with the exception of HHI and Vero in the summer and Xmas /Easter Week at WDW.

I have been an OKW member for over 10 years have take over 25 DVC vacations and have never not gotten what I wanted , granted all non OKW ressies were made at 7 months but we have done BCV 3x , BWV , Vwl ( this past April) and HHI 2x.

Personally I dont understand why anyone would buy anywhere other than OKW -- least points cost for vacations , Low annual dues , Lower buy in cost, largest rooms in WDW - nothing compares , nothing even comes close.

I know I take a pessimistic view, because I'd rather set the bar at "sometimes you can, and sometimes you can't" rather than "you'll never have any problems." I'd rather have people be delighted that their expectations were exceeded and I was wrong than disappointed and think I misled them. There are so many people who post here who have been less lucky than you have - including people who have gone on the waitlist at seven months and never had their requests come through. (A few people have gone on the waitlist for rooms eleven months out, and never had it come through).

Also, I'm someone who firmly believes that as the system grows, the windows will get more difficult - and that people are in this for the long haul. There will never be MORE rooms at the BCVs - there will be MORE DVC members, some of whom will want those rooms. And mydogdrew's point is well taken as well - as contracts change hands via resale, no one is paying more per point for fewer years to get a BCVs contract so they can stay out at SSR.

If you are flexible in your dates, and know the system, or are just lucky enough to not be picking times where DVC is busy, you don't have to stay at your home resort. We've had plenty of posters over the years who are disappointed when a Boardwalk View room isn't open four months out for early December.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

There have been several reports posted that owners at 11 mos went on waitlists a week after teh 11 mos. booking time opened. Some posted here that April as a whole was easy to book....well Easter was in March this year, and the entire month of April was booked for BWV very early!! That said, if you don't care where you stay, yes you will find something. But that may mostly be OKW, SSR, AKV.

 

[DebbieB]

Personally I dont understand why anyone would buy anywhere other than OKW -- least points cost for vacations , Low annual dues , Lower buy in cost, largest rooms in WDW - nothing compares , nothing even comes close.

I own at Boardwalk and there are several reasons: I love the boardwalk view, walk to Epcot and DHS, several restaurants within walking distance, the nightlife. I almost always book at 11 months. Everyone has their own preferences.

 

[Kimmy]

I had the same dilema. What made my decision to buy BWV, I searched on these boards for the topic, "waiting list". I love the BWV & BCV and I read so many times here how people are on the waiting list for these two resorts. So I didn't want to take a chance to finally buying DVC and not getting the resort I wanted to stay at. BCV sells fast, I finally saw a BWV the fit my needs and went for it.

 

[Granny]

I know I take a pessimistic view, because I'd rather set the bar at "sometimes you can, and sometimes you can't" rather than "you'll never have any problems." I'd rather have people be delighted that their expectations were exceeded and I was wrong than disappointed and think I misled them.

crisi...that's pretty much the same angle I approach the home resort debate from. It's all about expectations and how important it is to someone to stay at a particular resort.

since everything is based on points what is the advantage
of having the beach club as your home resort vs okw
since we can buy okw points cheaper than the beach club.

I think there are a lot of good answers to your question on this thread about Home Resort choosing.

 

[pennst8r]

I think some of the issues with availability depends on what kind of room you're looking for, too.