Holiday portraits?

ElizK

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I'm considering advertising to do Christmas portraits. I love photography, have done my own kids' Christmas pics for many years, but have never been paid for anything I've ever done. I did pay someone several years ago, and they were pretty awful. I know I could do better!

So, I need advice!! What do I need to do? Where can I find ideas for posing? Is $50.00 for a cd with all the pictures taken reasonable? (They can then print however many of whatever they want.)

Is this even something an amatuer can undertake? Photography is truly a passion, and the pictures all over my house are the proof! Thank you for any advice you can offer.
 
The most important question is what equipment do you have including the backdrops, lighting, etc? I would also make sure that you have a good contract that limits your liability. If it is soemthing that you think you will do again, you should consider incorporating to protect youself. It would be hard to tell if the price is right without knowing what your local market is like. It sounds a little low though. You would also need to provide a printing release with the CD that proves to print shops that the customer is allowed to have them printed. WDW provides one of these with your Photopass CD. Never give away the ownership of the images though. That way the customer could never sell the images, enter them in a contest, etc.

Kevin
 
What I was hoping to do is shots in the family's home, using whatever part of the house they want in the picture (fireplace, in front of the house, on the stairs, etc). I don't have any of the equipment you mentioned. I would have to rely on my camera's flash or lamps or sun for lighting. Liability? Yikes! Like what? (can you tell I've never done this before...)

Thanks for the info re the photo release. I wouldn't have thought of those things.
 
With the way people sue for almost nothing these days, they could sue you if you took to long to get the CD to them, they were unhappy with the results, you accidentally damage their property, etc. I am not saying that is likely, but it is still possible.

What camera are you using?

Kevin
 

I don't have a fantastic camera, but I've had good results with my Fuji Finepix S5100. It's a couple years old. It's a 4mp, I think, which should do fine for up to an 8x10 or 11x14.

Is there a standard agreement I could find, or am I going to have to write the thing myself?

Am I starting to sound too amatuer-ish?
 
Doing portraits for your friends or family is one thing but doing portraits to make money is a totally different ballgame. Taxes, business licenses, etc are all things that have to be considered if your doing this for the money.

And usually, on camera flash and lamps wouldn't be enough light to properly take portraits. Or well you would have a complete nightmare with the white balance issues.
 
You know, if people want to pay you for some pictures...go ahead and let them. I have done some, friends of mine, $50 for everything. It was good practice for me, they supplied me with the cash to print some photos for them, and everyone was happy. I say go for it, you will learn a lot in a few short sessions.

BTW, I did mine with a D50, pop up flash, and a 50mm f/1.8. They loved them, and that is all that matters.
 
Also, remember that you will need to do proofs for them to review and then make prints, etc. all of which takes time. Starting now for Christmas is pretty late. And, to be honest, your little 4mp camera isn't going to get the best results. Doing portraits is hard work; doing them right is even harder. See if a couple friends want to do it and charge them a reasonable price. Maybe even let them have a CD of the photos and do their own printing.
 
And, to be honest, your little 4mp camera isn't going to get the best results. Doing portraits is hard work; doing them right is even harder. See if a couple friends want to do it and charge them a reasonable price. Maybe even let them have a CD of the photos and do their own printing.

These look pretty good too me.
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/fuji_s5100_samples.html

But I do agree with Sharon, if you want to do some for friends to get some practice and see if it is something you want to do, then go for it. I have only done a few, and I will prob not do anymore. I just don't like directing people, I would much rather tell a tree to stay put :) People get to wrapped up in new stuff, myself included, they they forget to realize it isn't our equipment that makes great photos, it is us. If you shoot in natural light all the time and get great results, why do you need lighting setups? Just try it and see what happens, and good luck with it too.
 
Another thing you need to consider - if you are charging someone for something that is considered a business. In the state of texas if you are selling a tangible item - which the CD would be - you also are required by law to charge state and local sales tax - and then send that tax in.

A sitting fee is not considered a tangible item - but prints, frames, cd's (things they can hold in their hands) are.
 
I really appreciate everyone's advice. You've given me a lot to think about, stuff I hadn't considered. I still may try it, even if it's just for practice with the neighbor kids or family members.
 
Another thing you need to consider - if you are charging someone for something that is considered a business. In the state of texas if you are selling a tangible item - which the CD would be - you also are required by law to charge state and local sales tax - and then send that tax in.

A sitting fee is not considered a tangible item - but prints, frames, cd's (things they can hold in their hands) are.


In Texas, photographers have to collect sales tax, even for things like sitting fees. From the June 2006 Sales Tax Update:

Photographers - Sitting Fees

Sales of photographs are taxable. Photographs can be made from film or from digital or electronic files, and can be sold as prints or on a DVD or CD. Photographs or files delivered digitally, electronically, or by any other medium are taxable.

The entire charge, including sitting fees, is taxable when at least one photograph is sold, even if the buyer is not the person who originally hired the photographer.

Once an agreement is reached to produce and transfer photographs, all expenses, services, and other costs connected with their production must be included with the cost of raw materials to arrive at the sales price. Such expenses include travel, meals, and lodging while shooting on location, costs of acquiring props and models, and "professional services" in shooting the photograph. All of these expenses are directly related to the production and sale of the tangible photograph whether the photographer bills lump sum, at an hourly rate, or by itemizing each and every expense.

When billing a client for sitting fees, a photographer must collect sales tax on the entire amount charged for all services performed at the time the pictures are taken (including the sitting fees).

If the customer does not buy finished photographs when prints are available, the photographer can refund sales tax collected on all charges attributed directly to the sitting fee.
Photographers - Internet Sales

Orders for photographs placed over the Internet are taxable in the same manner as orders received at a physical location. Texas sales and use tax is due on sales made by Internet or catalog order if the seller is engaged in business in Texas as defined in Rule 3.286, and if the prints will be received by a customer in Texas.

Some companies host websites that allow photographers to submit pictures that are posted on the Internet for customer viewing. The website allows customers to order photographs, with payment being sent either to the hosting company or the photographer. In many cases, the company will process the Internet orders and print and ship the photographs directly to the customer.

As payment for its services, the website hosting company may receive a fee from the photographer for each picture ordered or retain a portion of the amount paid by the customers.

In this situation, the photographer, not the hosting company, is responsible for collecting Texas sales tax for photographs sold to Texas residents. Tax is due on the entire charge to a customer in Texas for finished photographs, including any charges for shipping and handling.

A charge by the web hosting company to place, store, and operate a website is subject to Texas sales and use tax as a data processing service. Twenty percent of the charge for data processing services is exempt from Texas tax. See Rule 3.330 for further information regarding data processing services.
 
Thanks for clarifying that for me Mark. :)
 













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