Hillary Supporters unite part 2; no bashing please

[Dolce27]

Sorry I'm just arriving to this party. I usually avoid the CB like the plague for obvious reasons but I would like to hear what Hillary supporters have to say. I wasn't a HS at first, but after watching the debates I was sold on her platform. By the time the primary came to Ky, she was pretty much out of the running but I took my 5 year old DD into the booth with me to cast my historic vote with tears in my eyes. I have been at a loss ever since about who I will vote for in the general election. All my friends are diehard Obama supporters and all of my family is die-hard McCain supporters so I have all of them trying to win my vote over. I like Obama but don't trust or respect him. I respect McCain and all of his years of service but feel he is way too far in the opposite direction of how I believe. I was really put off by a woman working the Obama booth at the Ky. State Fair last week. First off, we stopped to talk and she stuck an Obama sticker on my 5 year old. I'm sorry but I did not feel that was appropriate. Secondly, I told her that I was still trying to decide and her response was "Don't you want someone who knows what it's like to be poor? McCain has never wanted for anything in his whole life." I COULD NOT BELIEVE that an official booth would have someone telling people things like that. I'm sure my mouth was hanging open before I managed to blurt something out along the lines of "Yep. I'm pretty sure those POW's had it cushy in Vietnam." If that's the kind of people who are supporting Obama, I definately do not want to be a part of it.

Welcome! There still some of us around on this thread. We’re all at different places. Some plan to go ahead and vote for Obama. Some don’t know what they want to do but don’t want to vote for Obama. Some plan to vote for McCain.

We occasionally (aka: often) get drop-in’s from the OS that don’t like what some of us (me being one) have to say.

And honestly, I’ve been hearing worse come out of the mouths of people working for Obama’s campaign.

As to what that woman said: Obama’s never lived the poor life – despite what his campaign wants you to think. His mom moved to Indonesia when he was still pretty young and married a man who worked for a US oil company. He then moved to HI to be raised by his grandparents – his grandmother worked her way up to be a VP of a bank- and went to a privileged private school in HI. He attended Ivy League colleges and now lives in a mansion. He may not have grown up as wealthy as some of the Presidents and Presidential candidates we’ve had but the man hardly had a hard life growing up.

 

["Got Disney"]

Sorry I'm just arriving to this party. I usually avoid the CB like the plague for obvious reasons but I would like to hear what Hillary supporters have to say. I wasn't a HS at first, but after watching the debates I was sold on her platform. By the time the primary came to Ky, she was pretty much out of the running but I took my 5 year old DD into the booth with me to cast my historic vote with tears in my eyes. I have been at a loss ever since about who I will vote for in the general election. All my friends are diehard Obama supporters and all of my family is die-hard McCain supporters so I have all of them trying to win my vote over. I like Obama but don't trust or respect him. I respect McCain and all of his years of service but feel he is way too far in the opposite direction of how I believe. I was really put off by a woman working the Obama booth at the Ky. State Fair last week. First off, we stopped to talk and she stuck an Obama sticker on my 5 year old. I'm sorry but I did not feel that was appropriate. Secondly, I told her that I was still trying to decide and her response was "Don't you want someone who knows what it's like to be poor? McCain has never wanted for anything in his whole life." I COULD NOT BELIEVE that an official booth would have someone telling people things like that. I'm sure my mouth was hanging open before I managed to blurt something out along the lines of "Yep. I'm pretty sure those POW's had it cushy in Vietnam." If that's the kind of people who are supporting Obama, I definately do not want to be a part of it.

Welcome to our world...and welcome to our thread
That has been my experience with the OS that I have ran across. WE had some young OS come to our door last week and he was in shock how we were not OS....his mouth opened.

You have it tough getting it from both ends. Some on this thread will not vote Obama no matter what, some have moved to MCcain and some have decided to vote for Obama with hesitant and some are still undecided. We are still waiting for Obama to change our minds. WE need him to convince us to trust him, and his judgement and the lack of experiance is a heavy weight on many of us in this thread.

You are in good company here and we are all feeling the same way as you and have experienced the same OS mania that you have. You have found a home here...welcome

 

[Laura]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27189535]I cant get over how many OS are so mad that we are questioning a vote for Obama They cant figure out why we are not having the same feelings for him as they. Yet they all dispice Hillary and most would never think of voting for that witch.

But we HS are so bad for not voting for him. I feel such a double standard when reading there posts.

They don't want to get it. WE are not goo goo over the man. They don't get that it is not the issues(when they say his are the same as Hillarys)....it is the man. I don't hate Obama....I just don't trust him and question his judgement . And why does it bother them so much that we don't care for him.

They don't care that we don't/didn't care for any of the other DEM candidates, just Obama even from the beginning. They did not vote in the primaries for Hillary....I don't care that they did not do that....do you [/QUOTE]

I would be voting for Hillary in November if she'd won, and I lambasted any Obama supporter who said they wouldn't during the primary. Please stop being so dramatic. Some Obama supporters are jerks, but not all. Same goes for Hillary's supporters.

 

[pr surfer]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27191020]No not all but most at least that is the senses from all the OS here.[/QUOTE]

If you mean consensus, then thank you for correcting your generalization. But if you don't mean consensus, then: what?!?!

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27191020]Many of the OS here on this board say they hate her using many different terms.[/QUOTE]

I don't hate her (or her husband), but I lost a lot of respect for her after the Puerto Rico primary. She claimed she was always with Puerto Rico, yet had never set foot on the island until her first Senatorial campaign, when trying to appease NY latino voters. Not to mention her debt, specifically the amount she owes my relatives who were the promoters for the concerts she threw in PR... THEY STILL HAVEN'T BEEN PAID HILLARY. If I wanted to hate a Clinton it would be Bill, after he ratified the removal of section 936 IRS credit which when combined with NAFTA, sent the Puerto Rican economy on a downward spiral.

But I do not hate her. I just do not respect her. However, I am big enough to recognize that she would be infinitely better than John McCain as president, and as such, would happily vote for her over John McCain any day of the week.


[QUOTE="Got Disney";27191020]And for the ones that say they hate her but would still vote for her are only following the party. That IMO is not there vote but the party votes.[/QUOTE]

However, those are their votes to do as they see fit with. If they want to write in Mickey Mouse, they may, and you are in no position to tell them that their vote isn't there. No one is in that position.

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27191020]My vote is about the person....not the party.[/QUOTE]

I agree, which is why my vote is for Obama. I've even bought a plane ticket stateside to vote in person instead of absentee.

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27191020]But I will never walk blindly to the polls because someone tells me I should.[/QUOTE]

Neither will I. My mind was made long before I saw any campaign ads or met any supporters.

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27191020]I am looking for the best person to run this country ...not the base.[/QUOTE]

As am I. And that person is Barack Obama, NOT John McCain.

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27191020]I have never voted down party lines just because I am a DEM and don't plan on starting now. [/QUOTE]

I am not a registered democrat, so voting down party lines isn't an issue for me

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27191020]That's how we get people in the White House like Bush![/QUOTE]

No, he got in the White House by selling out to every special interest imaginable, smearing their opponents, having his brother as governor and party line responsible in a contested state, while his opponent got less support than needed from the incumbent president due to the president more than necessary support for his wife's senatorial campaign.

 

["Got Disney"]

I would be voting for Hillary in November if she'd won, and I lambasted any Obama supporter who said they wouldn't during the primary. Please stop being so dramatic. Some Obama supporters are jerks, but not all. Same goes for Hillary's supporters.

It has to do with the OS not getting why we will or are hesitant to vote for Obama....we have said why over and over.....yet most keep hammering at us about how if we don't vote Obama than we are bitter or it's Hillarys fault or we are not true DEMS and so on.

It gets old and aggravating. IT HAS TO DO WITH THE MAN NOT THE ISSUES.......I am glad he has won your trust and all the other OS....but he has not done that for me or most here.

You OS want us to vote for him than try to convince us why we should and stop waisting your time trying to tell us why we were wrong to vote for Hillary, and stop telling us that we will not vote for Obama just because we are bitter that Obama won and Hillary did not because that is not how any of us here feel.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27191492]

It gets old and aggravating. IT HAS TO DO WITH THE MAN NOT THE ISSUES.......I am glad he has won your trust and all the other OS....but he has not done that for me or most here.
[/QUOTE]

Just a little advice, you might want to expound on that a little bit. You keep saying 'IT HAS TO DO WITH THE MAN NOT THE ISSUES" over and over, as if every one is automatically supposed to know what you're talking about. For what it's worth, it would definitely keep your frustration levels a bit lower.

 

["Got Disney"]

But I do not hate her. I just do not respect her. However, I am big enough to recognize that she would be infinitely better than John McCain as president, and as such, would happily vote for her over John McCain any day of the week.

WEll many of us have not reached that far with Obama yet.




However, those are their votes to do as they see fit with. If they want to write in Mickey Mouse, they may, and you are in no position to tell them that their vote isn't there. No one is in that position.

Agreed and that is my point....so many OS are on our case for not voting for Obama evn in the primaries. The same with the Election. It is our vote and we can vote for who we feel is the right candidate for us and not for the party.



I agree, which is why my vote is for Obama. I've even bought a plane ticket stateside to vote in person instead of absentee.

And I have no problem with your decision to vote for Obama even though I dont trust him or his judgement and other reasons...but I never have and never will begrudge anyone that did vote for him. But to many OS begrudge me and many other HS for not.



Neither will I. My mind was made long before I saw any campaign ads or met any supporters.

Just as I did for Hillary



As am I. And that person is Barack Obama, NOT John McCain.

And I am happy that you have come to that decisison with Obama and not just because he is the DEM that got the nomination....I have not gotten that far yet.



I am not a registered democrat, so voting down party lines isn't an issue for me
I am but I am looking at the man also and sorry to say that I do trust McCain in a time of war and terrorism more than I do Obama.

I am looking forward to the debates and even though Obama does not do great in Debates...he is a better orator with his speeches I will not hold that against him. I am not looking at how well he talks but how well he answers the questions.

The same goes for McCain.

 

[Laura]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";27191492]It has to do with the OS not getting why we will or are hesitant to vote for Obama....we have said why over and over.....yet most keep hammering at us about how if we don't vote Obama than we are bitter or it's Hillarys fault or we are not true DEMS and so on.

It gets old and aggravating. IT HAS TO DO WITH THE MAN NOT THE ISSUES.......I am glad he has won your trust and all the other OS....but he has not done that for me or most here.

You OS want us to vote for him than try to convince us why we should and stop waisting your time trying to tell us why we were wrong to vote for Hillary, and stop telling us that we will not vote for Obama just because we are bitter that Obama won and Hillary did not because that is not how any of us here feel.[/QUOTE]

The man, not the issues? I'm an issues voter. I'm not voting for Obama because I "trust" him or think he's humble or anything silly like that. I don't trust Hillary, I think she lies like any politician, I think she's arrogant, but I'd still vote for her if she were the Dem candidate. Why? Because she's on my side politically.

If you have reasons for voting for Hillary other than her stand on the issues, on policy, etc., then I suppose I could understand why Hillary's supporters aren't for Obama. But I tend to think most people who voted for her in the primary did so in part because they liked what she believed in.

 

[Sanchez]

Fear not, this rather ardent OS has figured out why many may not vote for Obama:


From LuvDuke:
"I believe there's only reason why McCain is seemingly doing so well in the polls is the "600 lb gorilla in the room. That reason is race. Obama hasn't closed the deal because he is a black man running for president.
We don't like to talk about and we like to pretend race isn't an issue. Of course it is. There are people who will not vote for a black man and I've got them in my own family. Of course, that's what they're saying publicly. With a secret ballot, who knows what they will actually do and all of the bluster is only for effect."

 

[TeresaNJ]

Wow, I just heard on the news that NJ's esteemed (NOT) governor, Corzine, has said that all NJ's delegates and Super Delegates will give all their votes to Obama tonight, per an agreement that they all came to at a meeting today. Talk about voices not being heard. I honestly don't know how you all can belong to such a party. I give Hillary and Bill ALOT of credit for the way they've kept their cool, considering how their party stole the election from Hillary.

 

[DISUNC]

I was beginning to think that I had imagined the sour look on Michelle's face. I am glad someone else noticed too.

I didnt notice this, but all the various channels covering the speech had cameras going in different places at different times. I was at work and watching it with about 25 other people...and dont know what channel was on.

I won't back Obama regardless but it is his job to pull this party together now - not Hillary’s. She's publically backed him and she's asked her supporters to back him. All Obama has done was tell the HS to get over it. Donna Brazil said that they didn't need any of the HS - they're forming a new Democratic Party and then everything has fallen on Hillary's shoulders to take care of.

Uhhh.. no. If Obama wants HS votes - he better get out there and start courting them.

I will listen to him on Thursday night, but I cant WAIT to see this Greece Stage they are talking about on the news!!!!! The media is making it sound like a DOOZEY!

Let us remember that the main reason that their platforms are similar is because he basically copied her platform like he copied most of her answers in the debates. He's already publically proven to flip-flop on many issues because of this. This is one of the main reasons many people are jumping on board: they honestly don't know where he stands.

How many times were his answer in the debates...(after HC answered first) "What she said"?????

I'm looking forward to the debates. Obama will have to stand on his own and say what he thinks. It should be interesting.

ALOT of people are waiting for the Debates. I hope the media dont screw it up!

Actually, I don't really read the DailyKos. I don't read "PajamasMedia.com" either.

I gotta go to this pajamamedia site!

Exactly. And considering the flip flopping he's done we haven't got a clue what he truly believes. His support of FISA, combined with his vote to renew the patriot act don't really match up with the notion of a great constitutional scholar in my book.

For his support of the FISA alone...every Democrat should be They say McCain sides with Bush....um and how has rebel Obama done any different on the REAL issues!
Yup he does cross the party line....for all the WRONG reasons.

You're right: they don't get it and they never will. They don't understand that by insulting or bulling us they won't get our vote if we don't give it. They don't understand that just because Hillary said to give Obama our vote he won't get it unless we give it.

We own our votes. Not the OS. Not Obama. Not the DNC. Not even Hillary Clinton.

Some of us may vote for Obama come Nov. I've been bluntly honest for weeks now: I won't be one of them. I haven't waited for 7 years (as soon as I realized my mistake by voting for Bush in 2000) to get Bush out of office only to replace him with the Democrat's version of Bush. It's not Bush's right wing policies that have done this country the most harm - it's the corruption in the administration. Obama is just as corrupt - if not worse - than Bush is.

No matter how many times any of the OS come on this thread and give me crap about what I write or about my decision to vote McCain - I own my vote. Not them. They don't matter to me.

Oh, and Obama’s issues aren’t the same as Hillary’s. Hillary didn’t vote for Chaney’s Energy Bill. Hillary didn’t vote in favor of FISA. But Obama did.

Dolce you are on FIRE today!!!

Being the product of a very strict Parochial School system...I can SMELL Catholic guilt from 100 miles away. This has the same stink to me. YOU MUST BELIEVE!!!!!!! We will MAKE YOU VOTE FOR OBAMA.

(No offense to my fellow catholics...but if you had Nuns as teachers in 60/70 ya know what I mean)

Besides the DNC reminds me of my Family Dinner every Thanksgiving!!!!!

This may be a bit of a YAGE, but I think it's time for me to stop reading the political threads for a while-for my own piece of mind. Otherwise, I may just have to distance myself from the entire Democratic party, which I am not ready to do yet.

Just a last thought: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2008/08/has_he_lost_his_mind.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Sorry I'm just arriving to this party. I usually avoid the CB like the plague for obvious reasons but I would like to hear what Hillary supporters have to say. I wasn't a HS at first, but after watching the debates I was sold on her platform. By the time the primary came to Ky, she was pretty much out of the running but I took my 5 year old DD into the booth with me to cast my historic vote with tears in my eyes. I have been at a loss ever since about who I will vote for in the general election. All my friends are diehard Obama supporters and all of my family is die-hard McCain supporters so I have all of them trying to win my vote over. I like Obama but don't trust or respect him. I respect McCain and all of his years of service but feel he is way too far in the opposite direction of how I believe. I was really put off by a woman working the Obama booth at the Ky. State Fair last week. First off, we stopped to talk and she stuck an Obama sticker on my 5 year old. I'm sorry but I did not feel that was appropriate. Secondly, I told her that I was still trying to decide and her response was "Don't you want someone who knows what it's like to be poor? McCain has never wanted for anything in his whole life." I COULD NOT BELIEVE that an official booth would have someone telling people things like that. I'm sure my mouth was hanging open before I managed to blurt something out along the lines of "Yep. I'm pretty sure those POW's had it cushy in Vietnam." If that's the kind of people who are supporting Obama, I definately do not want to be a part of it.

Welcome! I dont get the DNC's & Obama stance on his Rags too riches story either. HE WAS NOT A POOR CHILD. He went to one of the countries most elusive HS. He went to school with some of the children from the richiest families in the world.
His family had its share of problems, but $$$$ was not one of them.

 

[Dolce27]

Fear not, this rather ardent OS has figured out why many may not vote for Obama:


From LuvDuke:
"I believe there's only reason why McCain is seemingly doing so well in the polls is the "600 lb gorilla in the room. That reason is race. Obama hasn't closed the deal because he is a black man running for president.
We don't like to talk about and we like to pretend race isn't an issue. Of course it is. There are people who will not vote for a black man and I've got them in my own family. Of course, that's what they're saying publicly. With a secret ballot, who knows what they will actually do and all of the bluster is only for effect."

I was wondering how long this thread could go again before someone brought up "race" again - and note ...it's never been an HS on this thread.

If you want to know the real reason that some of us refuse to vote for Obama - go and read all of this thread and the one before it. I'm sorry if you want to ignore Obama's relationship with Ayers. I'm sorry if you want to ignore the fact that a 2 yr old is dead b/c Obama keeps giving money to people like Rezko who pocket it and then leave people in horrid living conditions. I'm sorry if you want to vote for a man that has lied more times than what you guys accuse Hillary of doing during this primary. I'm sorry if you want to vote for a man that copies what his opponents state (debates and platforms) and then flip-flop whenever he thinks it'll get him ahead and no one know what his true position is on anything.

But hey.. that's on your conscious.

If you and LuvDuke want to say that we have problems with Obama's skin color - if that makes you feel better so you don't have to face the reality of what a slime ball Obama really is... then go for it! I'm waaaaay over being called a racist. The DIS has even taught me something: most people don't even know what the true definition of racism is. So - people like that? I could care less if they call me a racist. I know I'm not. I know that Obama's skin color has nothing at all to do with my hate for the man. So, I'm cool with your false accusations.

And so this isn’t all about me: I’ve gotten to know all of the other regulars pretty well on this thread and I’ll vouch for them also for not being a racist.

 

[Dolce27]

Wow, I just heard on the news that NJ's esteemed (NOT) governor, Corzine, has said that all NJ's delegates and Super Delegates will give all their votes to Obama tonight, per an agreement that they all came to at a meeting today. Talk about voices not being heard. I honestly don't know how you all can belong to such a party. I give Hillary and Bill ALOT of credit for the way they've kept their cool, considering how their party stole the election from Hillary.

Hey, thanks Teresa. That's another reason why some of the HS refuse to jump on board for Obama... why do we want to get behind such blatant corruption?

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

I was wondering how long this thread could go again before someone brought up "race" again - and note ...it's never been an HS on this thread.

If you want to know the real reason that some of us refuse to vote for Obama - go and read all of this thread and the one before it. I'm sorry if you want to ignore Obama's relationship with Ayers. I'm sorry if you want to ignore the fact that a 2 yr old is dead b/c Obama keeps giving money to people like Rezko who pocket it and then leave people in horrid living conditions. I'm sorry if you want to vote for a man that has lied more times than what you guys accuse Hillary of doing during this primary. I'm sorry if you want to vote for a man that copies what his opponents state (debates and platforms) and then flip-flop whenever he thinks it'll get him ahead and no one know what his true position is on anything.

But hey.. that's on your conscious.

If you and LuvDuke want to say that we have problems with Obama's skin color - if that makes you feel better so you don't have to face the reality of what a slime ball Obama really is... then go for it! I'm waaaaay over being called a racist. The DIS has even taught me something: most people don't even know what the true definition of racism is. So - people like that? I could care less if they call me a racist. I know I'm not. I know that Obama's skin color has nothing at all to do with my hate for the man. So, I'm cool with your false accusations.

And so this isn’t all about me: I’ve gotten to know all of the other regulars pretty well on this thread and I’ll vouch for them also for not being a racist.

Whoa...nobody's calling you a racist! You've got to admit though that some voters may not vote for Obama because he's a black man, just as some voters didn't vote for Hillary because she's a woman. Sexism and racism is alive and well in America...but it doesn mean that just because you don't support Obama, it automatically makes you a racist.

 

["Got Disney"]

Just a little advice, you might want to expound on that a little bit. You keep saying 'IT HAS TO DO WITH THE MAN NOT THE ISSUES" over and over, as if every one is automatically supposed to know what you're talking about. For what it's worth, it would definitely keep your frustration levels a bit lower.

I have over and over in the last months....3 big one in my book...experience, Trust, judgement, ...his associations with Toni Rezco, Rev. Wright (his mentor), William Ayers, His church for 20 years. Michelle Obamas remarks and also Obamas remarks...do I need to name them.

I find him to be to cocky....not confident that is different. I dont like that he said "HS need to just get over it" or that he said that he could win without our votes.

I have nothing against what was done during the primaries as to win. I may not have liked it but that is politics. I find him no different than any other politician. Mostly since he used crooked Chicago politics to move his way up the later. He has even said he did that and is not proud of it.

What bothers me also is that he puts himself above all other politicians when I have seen nothing to show that he is.

I believe that he wants to bring HOPE and CHANGE but he has not yet convinced me that he can do it. I don"t think he is a bad man at all. I am just still questioning who he really is. With Hillary I knew who she was warts and all and the same with McCain warts and all. I don't know who Obama is warts and all and that makes me question voting for him.

Again he still has till NOV to change my mind. If he only had my vote to worry about than no big deal right...unfortunitley(sp) for him and allhis OS there are millions feeling like me.

 

[Sanchez]

Dolce27 - I was mocking LuvDuke's comments. For the record, I chastised her for this on the Obama board.

 

[Dolce27]

Whoa...nobody's calling you a racist! You've got to admit though that some voters may not vote for Obama because he's a black man, just as some voters didn't vote for Hillary because she's a woman. Sexism and racism is alive and well in America...but it doesn mean that just because you don't support Obama, it automatically makes you a racist.

Ummm... yeah.. Posting what that poster did on a Hillary Support thread where some of us vocally state that we're not getting on the Obama bandwagon is passive-aggressively calling us racist. Seriously, don't worry about it. At this stage of the game I'm used to it. All across the internet all you see is OS jumping on message boards and blogs calling the HS racist after they gave a valid reason for not backing Obama.

 

[Dolce27]

Dolce27 - I was mocking LuvDuke's comments. For the record, I chastised her for this on the Obama board.

Then I apologize. I don't know you as I've never seen you post before. Like I just responded to LOG... that accusation is pretty rampant across the internet right now. I don't doubt that there are those refusing to vote for a black man but the majority of us could care less about his skin color. If Obama was as white as snow, I'd still feel the same about him because it's his character and shady past that make me weary of him. Skin color has nothing to do with those attributes.

Is attribute the word I want or is there a antonym that I should be using?

 

[LuvDuke]

Fear not, this rather ardent OS has figured out why many may not vote for Obama:


From LuvDuke:
"I believe there's only reason why McCain is seemingly doing so well in the polls is the "600 lb gorilla in the room. That reason is race. Obama hasn't closed the deal because he is a black man running for president.
We don't like to talk about and we like to pretend race isn't an issue. Of course it is. There are people who will not vote for a black man and I've got them in my own family. Of course, that's what they're saying publicly. With a secret ballot, who knows what they will actually do and all of the bluster is only for effect."

FYI, I didn't post this here and I am going to report this. This was posted to another thread and you had no business bringing it here.

If I wanted to bring this point, I would've done so myself.

 

[DISUNC]

Whoa...nobody's calling you a racist! You've got to admit though that some voters may not vote for Obama because he's a black man, just as some voters didn't vote for Hillary because she's a woman. Sexism and racism is alive and well in America...but it doesn mean that just because you don't support Obama, it automatically makes you a racist.

Finally I agree with you on something. I said right from the getgo that these ill be 2 issues in this primary.

However (ya know there has too be that) !!!! I also believe Obama opened the door using the race card. He used his multi-ethnicity as some sort of psuedo qualification for president. And then numerous times he publically stated how "THEY" will say he is Black. So he fed people a fear, that wasn't true.

Not too mention his long time mentor! And his statement about his grandmother being a 'typical white woman'...speaks VOLUMES TOO ME. These words are not used by people who do not have "issues"!