Hillary Supporters unite part 2; no bashing please

[moon]

Let’s see… I’m trying to understand this whole “kitchen sink” thing..

We have the Texas debate: after Obama plagiarized whole passages of a speech from Massachussetts Gov. Deval Patrick; Hillary called him on it.
Now, we all know that Obama can’t think on his feet and does need things written for him in order to sound credulous but he really shouldn’t be plagiarizing… I mean, I learned that back in 7th grade.

Then there’s the famous “Shame on you, Barack Obama” speech in which she accused Obama of running a hypocritical campaign (which as far as I can tell, he is) because he swore that he would not do any negative campaigning and that he is a different type of politician, ect… and then he mails out false campaign mailers misleading the people of Ohio about her stance on her healthcare plan and NAFTA- two huge issues for that state.

Luckily for Obama, the media took that stance that she was being overly dramatic instead of questioning why Obama sent out false mailers when he was promising America that he didn’t do that type of thing. Oh, and then kudos to Obama – the Republicans (Drudge Report) drug up a published photo off of a website showing Obama in cultural garb, made a big to-do about it and the Obama campaign staff started crying ‘foul’ … but instead of crying foul to who it needed to be directed to – they cried foul to Hillary who wasn’t the one that drug up the photo but got the blame for it nonetheless. So, all focus was taken off Hillary tying to point out that Obama is being a hypocrite and sending false negative mailers out in Ohio..... and instead the focus is on how Hillary is now an evil fear mongering monster.

Oh! And let’s not forget that he sent an aide to Canada to tell the Canadian Prime Minister to disregard everything he was saying was his stance on NAFTA – it’s just all political rhetoric and that Canada has nothing to worry about.

I think that’s when the whole ‘kitchen sink’ came into usage for this primary election. But seriously, why the HS is getting so upset is because while she has given the media ammunition to dislike her negative campaigning – so has he. The difference is – she’s called on it by the media and he’s usually not. If he is, it’s not that big of a deal. The Rev Wright thing was the biggest deal but that’s already been let go by the mainstream media. (And like most people, I agree that if a “Rev Wright” person was in Hillary’s past this would not have been let go)

I mean, geeze, Obama is already past the Rev Wright debacle.. one of his latest campaign mailers for Kentucky shows him behind a church pulpit with a cross in the background and speaking about his religion. If I were him, I’d keep religion out of the rest of my campaign… but that’s just me…


You know, it’s funny. I read a post (not on this message board) by one Obama supporter asking why Obama had to defend himself for trying to enlighten the people. (Meaning: why he had to defend himself on his negative attacks against Hillary as he was only “enlightening” the people as to what her stance/opinion on subject/issue really is.) Well, I guess that same could be said about Hillary – she's not being "negative"; she's only "enlightening" people about Obama.

She points out that he’s really just another politician running for office complete with him telling the people what they want to hear vs what he’s actually done before (ie: the gun issue – what was it? He was supporting the use of firearms in his speeches to states that are pro-gun but he voted against something in the senate… or do I have that backwards?) and he does negative ad campaigning – which he promised he wouldn’t.

You know, all politicians lie – all three of them still in this election: McCain, Clinton, and Obama. But of the three there is only one of them standing up there pretending to be above all of that and at the exact same time he’s pulling the exact same crap as the other two.
(That person would be Obama.)

Obama’s given back just as good as he cries Hillary has given it to him but over and over the media and the Obama supporters just point out her negativity in this campaign and gloss over anything negative he says and does against her. After all, he’s just trying to “enlighten” people.

I think it’s time to drop the “kitchen sink” crap. Obama’s halo is long gone from the top of his head. He’d be a hypocrite if he keeps accusing Hillary of throwing the kitchen sink at him while he runs a clean campaign – oh wait. He already does that. If he didn’t want Hillary “throwing the kitchen sink” at him, then he should have been running a true clean campaign. She can only point out and go forward with what he gives her – as he is able to do with her.

I’m still not voting for him… just in case anyone wondered.

Wonderful post!!! Thank you!

nk you!!!!

 

[DISUNC]

Soooooooooooo if Obama looses AGAIN....its NOT BECAUSE OF HIM, its because the voters are duped by emails & Fox news!!!!

Whadda load!

He will not go to kentucky, cause I guess he is too good for them. Does this guy want to be President of the United Sates, or just "The States that voted for Him"????



He isnt even trying to hide his elitstism anymore.


Obama blames Fox News, e-mail for likely loss in Kentucky

LEXINGTON, Ky. — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, facing a likely defeat in next Tuesday's primary election, won't travel to Kentucky before the voting, but said he hopes to have much more time to win over Kentucky voters before the November general election.

He also blamed Fox News for disseminating "rumors" about him and said that that and e-mails filled with misinformation that have been "systematically" dispersed have hurt him in Kentucky.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/37388.html

 

[Planogirl]

So do you guys really want McCain instead of Obama?

 

["Got Disney"]

So do you guys really want McCain instead of Obama?

ummmm no but dont want Obama either...the problem is we have 2 private parties...the Dem and the Rep(the IND also but they are still growing so wont count them yet) and they can make up there own rules no matter what we decide. There is no real democracy because when it comes down to it the Delegates and the SD can vote as they choose if it comes down to Convention time. They dont have to vote there states.

So the Delegates votes come down to what is about 16,000 times more worth than our votes. So I say Why bother with Delegates if they dont vote the will of the people. Why not just have Delegates and say the hell with the rest of us. When ya have idiots running the DNC making stupid rules like disenfranchising Fl and MI it's enough to make ya wanna leave the party.

I probably wont know what I will do till I walk into the voting booth in NOV....I may walk out and do nothing, a lot will also depend on who both pick as there VP....that will also play a role in my decision. I can say that I am upset with the media and the DNC for reasons here I dont need to explain. Maybe I just need to watch some comedy for awhile and I'll feel better.

 

[KikiFan]

never mind.

 

[punkin]

So do you guys really want McCain instead of Obama?

The answer right now is yes. Unfortunately. With McCain in the White house and a majority Democratic Congress, I think no drastic legislation could be passed and no really right wing judges could be appointed to the Supreme Court. The country will stay moderate. With Obama in the White House and a complacent democratic majority in Congress, I am seriously uncertain what would happen and I do not like uncertainty.

 

[wvrevy]

So, this is the guy you want to put into the white house?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

Curious...is he lying from moment to moment, or can he just not remember what it was he said?

 

[robinb]

So do you guys really want McCain instead of Obama?

Absolutely NOT!

 

[WildernessBride]

Absolutely NOT!

Yay!! .....We need a democrat now, not a republican!!!

 

[Planogirl]

The answer right now is yes. Unfortunately. With McCain in the White house and a majority Democratic Congress, I think no drastic legislation could be passed and no really right wing judges could be appointed to the Supreme Court. The country will stay moderate. With Obama in the White House and a complacent democratic majority in Congress, I am seriously uncertain what would happen and I do not like uncertainty.

There is room for thought there. I feel really uneasy about the judges though and the war dragging on and on bothers me too.

 

[DISUNC]

So do you guys really want McCain instead of Obama?

Nope! I want the ONLY qualified person who will work for the American People....HILLARY!

 

[Planogirl]

Nope! I want the ONLY qualified person who will work for the American People....HILLARY!

You and me both.

 

[punkin]

You and me both.

I third that.

McCain did say that he is considering bringing the troops back and I do have hope that a more active Democratic Congress will be able to force the removal of the troops.

 

[kinntj]

Back from my vacation and ready to get political again. It was nice not to have to think about news and the political arena while putting my kids on the teacups or Dumbo.

Would I want McCain over Obama? I don't think so. I get confused sometimes and go back and forth. I like more moderate candidates that work with both sides of the aisle. I think Hillary fits that mold the best and then I think McCain would. I'm not so sure about Obama's ability to reach across the aisle. Then again, I can't see wanting another Republican in the seat. Blech! It's like being between a rock and a hard place as a Hillary supporter.

I'm just waiting for this primary time to be over and see where we go from here. I'm so glad she's doing so well though throughout this race. Goes to show you that LOTS of people think like we do!!!

 

[punkin]

Did anyone notice the realclearpolitics poll numbers? It looks like Hillary is gaining on Obama in Oregon and he is WAY behind in Kentucky. While he has been doing his "victory lap" she's been out campaigning. I still have hope.

 

[DISUNC]

Did anyone notice the realclearpolitics poll numbers? It looks like Hillary is gaining on Obama in Oregon and he is WAY behind in Kentucky. While he has been doing his "victory lap" she's been out campaigning. I still have hope.

Suffolk Polls 5/17-18

Oregon
Clinton 41
Obama 45

Kentucky
Clinton 51
Obama 25




If he dont win Oregon by big numbers, i think his days are numbered.

This will mean that he only won 1 Primary since the Rev scandal, and his numbers dropped big time. The SD's HAVE TOO consider this.

I STILL think she is gonna pull this off & get the nom!

 

[punkin]

If he dont win Oregon by big numbers, i think his days are numbered.

This will mean that he only won 1 Primary since the Rev scandal, and his numbers dropped big time. The SD's HAVE TOO consider this.

I STILL think she is gonna pull this off & get the nom!

From your mouth....

 

[deelam]

Did anyone notice the realclearpolitics poll numbers? It looks like Hillary is gaining on Obama in Oregon and he is WAY behind in Kentucky. While he has been doing his "victory lap" she's been out campaigning. I still have hope.

Even if she doesn't get the nomination, she will make a clear statement that she is a very strong canidate. She may even finish by winning the popular vote. This also cast many doubts on if Obama can win the general election.

I think Obama has shifted focus to McCain. At least the media has shift to a McCain VS. Obama stand. Its a nice break from all the (media) calls for Hillary to drop out.

 

[DISUNC]

While he has been doing his "victory lap" she's been out campaigning. I still have hope.

The Tortoise and the Hare

One of Aesop's Fables​

Once upon a time there was a hare who, boasting how he could run faster than anyone else, was forever teasing tortoise for its slowness. Then one day, the irate tortoise answered back: "Who do you think you are? There's no denying you're swift, but even you can be beaten!" The hare squealed with laughter.

"Beaten in a race? By whom? Not you, surely! I bet there's nobody in the world that can win against me, I'm so speedy. Now, why don't you try?"

Annoyed by such bragging, the tortoise accepted the challenge. A course was planned, and the next day at dawn they stood at the starting line. The hare yawned sleepily as the meek tortoise trudged slowly off. When the hare saw how painfully slow his rival was, he decided, half asleep on his feet, to have a quick nap. "Take your time!" he said. "I'll have forty winks and catch up with you in a minute."

The hare woke with a start from a fitful sleep and gazed round, looking for the tortoise. But the creature was only a short distance away, having barely covered a third of the course. Breathing a sigh of relief, the hare decided he might as well have breakfast too, and off he went to munch some cabbages he had noticed in a nearby field. But the heavy meal and the hot sun made his eyelids droop. With a careless glance at the tortoise, now halfway along the course, he decided to have another snooze before flashing past the winning post. And smiling at the thought of the look on the tortoise's face when it saw the hare speed by, he fell fast asleep and was soon snoring happily. The sun started to sink, below the horizon, and the tortoise, who had been plodding towards the winning post since morning, was scarcely a yard from the finish. At that very point, the hare woke with a jolt. He could see the tortoise a speck in the distance and away he dashed. He leapt and bounded at a great rate, his tongue lolling, and gasping for breath. Just a little more and he'd be first at the finish. But the hare's last leap was just too late, for the tortoise had beaten him to the winning post. Poor hare! Tired and in disgrace, he slumped down beside the tortoise who was silently smiling at him.

"Slowly does it every time!" SHE said.

 

[punkin]

Love the tortoise and the hare story, but your analogy fails because in real life we have judges who can award the race to the hare because he started off better and his supporters would riot if he did not win in the end.