Hillary Supporters unite part 2; no bashing please

[punkin]

The results show that despite the Obama camp and its supporters saying that he was making great progress with Hispanics -without anything to back that up- they still want Hillary by an overwhelming margin.

There's a lot of talk about a victory in PR meaning nothing. Well, BO sure tried in PR. Why did he made the effort? I think because if he did well in PR. the spin would be that he won over the Hispanic population. But it didn't happen. he lost BIG.

And that's a problem for him.

He's got several problems. He's losing with Hispanics, women, and white men. Exactly who is going to vote for him in November?

 

[moon]

He's got several problems. He's losing with Hispanics, women, and white men. Exactly who is going to vote for him in November?

Eh, didn't Donna Brazille said something to the effect that "the new Democratic Coalition" was young, and urban and so didn't need to rely Hispanics and blue-collar voters?

Good luck with that.

 

[LuvDuke]

I'm bringing this little gem over from the Conserative thread:

OBAMA UNSURE HILLARY CAN GET HIS VOTERS
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/01/629273.aspx

It includes tid-bit such as:





Really? Sure about that? You've divided this party Obama - those votes aren't going to come to you very easily just because you say that they will. I will be one HS that will not be voting for you.

Obama divided the party? Really, how? Is it because he had the cajones to take on the Clinton machine and beat them at their own game? Or is it because he had the cajones to go up against the queen on her way to the coronation?

The fact of the matter is, if it had been anyone but Hillary, this race would not have degenerated into what it has become. Edwards would NOThave done this. Richardson wouldn't have done this. Neither would Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, or Gravel.

Hillary did this because going negative was the only way she thought she could win. It didn't work. Tough.

As I've said in the past, Obama ought to write off those Hillary supporters who wouldn't vote for him no matter what he does. The smarter thing to do would be to have a massive voter registration drive to bring in new blood. It's about the Clintons got shown the door.

But what the heck, we need a new group who's going to show "us" on election day. Be proud to join the same group as the 2000 Nadar voters in FL. Then don't complain if the war goes on, you lose your health insurance, and this country continues to stagnate for another 4 years. But, wow, you'll sure show "us".

 

[punkin]

Eh, didn't Donna Brazille said something to the effect that "the new Democratic Coalition" was young, and urban and so didn't need to rely Hispanics and blue-collar voters?

Good luck with that.

How about women? Do they still need us or can we go back to the kitchen to bake cookies now?

 

["Got Disney"]

I am ashamed of the DNC as well.
Yes, this election has been racially motivated, in my opinion as well.
Who brought the issue of race into play?
One of the things I am noticing is that the fear that I immediately developed right after the Rev. Wright issue is the same fear that minorities have had to deal with for hundreds of years in this country. The bottom line is that it seems many are scared to trust Obama because he and his wife hate white people.

I do not believe they hate Whites. I do, however, know they feel the pain of what it is like to be discriminated against. I have a friend who is black. She has a degree from Columbia University. Grew up in an upper middle-class black family. Highly sophisticated. She lives in the south now. I was with her one day in a grocery store when I watched a lady grab on to her purse when she saw her walking down the isle. I could only imagine my friend's pain. what did she do to deserve to be judge because of the color of her skin? Unfortunately, however, this is the type of prejudice minorities have been feeling for years, and many do not want to vote for Obama because they are fearful this is going to happen to them? I wonder.......

I watched many use this type of ignorance to play on the minds of the voters. and it has worked.

I think it is very hard for many to understand.

I am not in fear that if Obama becomes out next POTUS he is going to become some Dr. Evil who is going to hand over the control to the minorities of the world? But this is what is going on in the minds of many people I talk to. This pains me to no end.

Like I said, I am going to vote for whomever wins the DNC. I am not going to vote for McCain because I fear Obama's church's defensive racial rants. I really doubt that Barack Obama is the David Duke of Black America. Do you think that if he were Caroline Kennedy and others would be backing him? Don't you think they knew all about him way before this election started?

I will go against my better judgement and answer this....because it was not rude and It cuaght my eye..if i see Rude I dont read and skip over.

I can say that I for one and many here dont feel that Obama and his wife HATE white people...HATE is a hard word. But we do not trust his judgement. Not just for that issue but for some of his other issues that come about of the man that we hardly know.

You bring up the Racial discrimination against Blacks...but it is never brought up about how that is being played against whites. It does go both ways ya know.... I am a woman and am offended by all the gender racism going on in this election. Do you realize that woman are treated in the work place worse than an African American Male. We get lower pay, and less advancement than any race of the male gender.... But that is not talked about...only how the African Americans are treated.

You may not have paid much attention to it but many woman and men have seen it from the HS to McCain Supporters. When the Race card is played against Obama it's an OMG attitude but when Woman are told to go bake cookies it's laughed at. Did ya know that black men had the vote 50 years before woman did? What does that tell ya.

We HS are tired of being called racist because we dont care for Obama, we are tired of being told we are not DEMs because we dont want Obama, we are tired of being called party dividers because we dont want Obama, we are tired of being told to get out of the race since the first day...we are tired of being told that it's HS and Hillary's fault if Obama were to get assassinated, we are tired of being told if McCain wins it's Hillary's and her supporters fault, we are tired of being told that anything that Obama fails at is the faughlt of the Clinton campaign...and so on and so on....

Obama and his supporters take no responsibility for anything. I blame the Media, the DNC, the Obama campaign, his supporters, the Hillary campaign and her supporters, the Internet and the pollsters and the whole kit and kaboodle...

I also look at this as a first time event to be learned from. Bush and his failed policies, a Woman running, a Black man running , the media not knowing how to handle it, the DNC and FL and MI, the Caucuses, the pollsters, the black racists, the white racists, the gender racists, the disrespect, the entitlement of BOTH candidates, the OS and the HS dividing...and so on...

There is enough blame to go around and it is not just ALL Hillary's fault....it is the way democracy has become ...if you ask me the DNC is what is failing us......again and again the DNC lets us down and has not a clue on how to fix it ...or even cares...after all they are politicians and politicians do what politicians do...to benefit themselves.

 

[KikiFan]

Obama divided the party? Really, how? Is it because he had the cajones to take on the Clinton machine and beat them at their own game? Or is it because he had the cajones to go up against the queen on her way to the coronation?

The fact of the matter is, if it had been anyone but Hillary, this race would not have degenerated into what it has become. Edwards would NOThave done this. Richardson wouldn't have done this. Neither would Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, or Gravel.

Hillary did this because going negative was the only way she thought she could win. It didn't work. Tough.

As I've said in the past, Obama ought to write off those Hillary supporters who wouldn't vote for him no matter what he does. The smarter thing to do would be to have a massive voter registration drive to bring in new blood. It's about the Clintons got shown the door.

But what the heck, we need a new group who's going to show "us" on election day. Be proud to join the same group as the 2000 Nadar voters in FL. Then don't complain if the war goes on, you lose your health insurance, and this country continues to stagnate for another 4 years. But, wow, you'll sure show "us".

Ah Luvduke you're so charming and courteous. Who wouldn't want to join you? I can't imagine a better emissary for Obama then you!

 

[kinntj]

But what the heck, we need a new group who's going to show "us" on election day. Be proud to join the same group as the 2000 Nadar voters in FL. Then don't complain if the war goes on, you lose your health insurance, and this country continues to stagnate for another 4 years. But, wow, you'll sure show "us".

Nice...There goes the regular OS guilt trip extravaganza!!! B1G1 free!

 

[punkin]

Nice...There goes the regular OS guilt trip extravaganza!!! B1G1 free!

Well I guess it's either "hope in a jar" or "liberal guilt". You can take your pick as long as you vote for Obama.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

Ah Luvduke you're so charming and courteous. Who wouldn't want to join you? I can't imagine a better emissary for Obama then you!

I was ACTUALLY going to vote for him, but now I just don't feel worthy. Oh fiddlesticks.

Well I guess it's either "hope in a jar" or "liberal guilt". You can take your pick as long as you vote for Obama.

I'm hoping for door number 3.

 

["Got Disney"]

Obama divided the party? Really, how? Is it because he had the cajones to take on the Clinton machine and beat them at their own game? Or is it because he had the cajones to go up against the queen on her way to the coronation?

The fact of the matter is, if it had been anyone but Hillary, this race would not have degenerated into what it has become. Edwards would NOThave done this. Richardson wouldn't have done this. Neither would Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, or Gravel.

Hillary did this because going negative was the only way she thought she could win. It didn't work. Tough.

As I've said in the past, Obama ought to write off those Hillary supporters who wouldn't vote for him no matter what he does. The smarter thing to do would be to have a massive voter registration drive to bring in new blood. It's about the Clintons got shown the door.

But what the heck, we need a new group who's going to show "us" on election day. Be proud to join the same group as the 2000 Nadar voters in FL. Then don't complain if the war goes on, you lose your health insurance, and this country continues to stagnate for another 4 years. But, wow, you'll sure show "us".

Hi LVDuke your back...welcome... sorry I did not read your post..why bother since I know what you always have to say, such wonderful things and all and usually no bad language like some of the OS that come in here ...gee have I thanked you for that .....hay ya did not answer my question about getting together for a BBQ....or coffee...would be nice...

I would sure love to see ya....after all I could never have to many friends like you....You ROCK!!!!! I know you think i am joking but I'm not....this is an olive leaf and think we could sit down and clear the air and become friends and discuss Obama and Hillary in a adult fashion...so what ya think????

 

[moon]

Ah Luvduke you're so charming and courteous. Who wouldn't want to join you? I can't imagine a better emissary for Obama then you!

Honest. If Obama is half the man his supporters claim he is, he'd be ashamed of the kind of "support" they dish out.....

 

[DISUNC]

Obama divided the party? Really, how?:

Lying! Cheating!

Is it because he had the cajones to take on the Clinton machine and beat them at their own game? Or is it because he had the cajones to go up against the queen on her way to the coronation?:

I think its Hillary with the cajones too point out the absolute hypocrycisy of Obama.

The fact of the matter is, if it had been anyone but Hillary, this race would not have degenerated into what it has become. Edwards would NOThave done this. Richardson wouldn't have done this. Neither would Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, or Gravel.

The COULD have not done this, cause Most people didnt vote for them, MOST voted for Clinton.

Hillary did this because going negative was the only way she thought she could win. It didn't work. Tough.

IT did, you just cant see it!!!!! Besides Obama knows how to go negative, he has proven this many times.

As I've said in the past, Obama ought to write off those Hillary supporters who wouldn't vote for him no matter what he does. The smarter thing to do would be to have a massive voter registration drive to bring in new blood. It's about the Clintons got shown the door.

Yup that will get him elected!!!!!

We all know how 'horrible' the Clintons have been to the DNC. Tsk Tsk! Shameful how Bill was the ONLY Democrat who can actually win a election. That is HORRIBLE, what a terrible thing for him to do.

But what the heck, we need a new group who's going to show "us" on election day. Be proud to join the same group as the 2000 Nadar voters in FL. Then don't complain if the war goes on, you lose your health insurance, and this country continues to stagnate for another 4 years. But, wow, you'll sure show "us".

Even if Obama was to get elected....We will still be at war! We still wouldnt have NHC, and we will be dire straights because he is incapable of doing the job. (this is based on his past performance of doing absolutely nothing worth a damn)

 

[moon]

How about women? Do they still need us or can we go back to the kitchen to bake cookies now?

Well, I think the Democratic Party this year has put women in their place, and has told them where they belong!

It's still OK for women to vote Democratic. Just do it quietly. Don't even think about making waves!

 

[DISUNC]

He's got several problems. He's losing with Hispanics, women, and white men. Exactly who is going to vote for him in November?

He will get no more votes than he already has received in the Primary. Possibly less, since he received many Republican "mischeif votes" in the open primaries & caucuses!

 

[kinntj]

Well I guess it's either "hope in a jar" or "liberal guilt". You can take your pick as long as you vote for Obama.

I love it when they talk dirty. They talk all this stuff about the Clinton name and she got where she is because of it. Could be true for sure. I really think Obama got where he is because he rubs elbows with thugs in the Chicago arena. Now there's a person who'll change the face of politics. I do think he's being endorsed to be a puppet to some big players.

I'd equate Clinton and Obama and put them on the same playing field.

McSame is such a stupid nickname for McCain. Who made that up anyway? It's so original! I won't use it, because it's not very creative. We should have a contest to see who can come up with a better name for the Rep candidate.

 

[DISUNC]

Eh, didn't Donna Brazille said something to the effect that "the new Democratic Coalition" was young, and urban and so didn't need to rely Hispanics and blue-collar voters?

Good luck with that.

yeah ..who needs 75% of the democrat party?

 

["Got Disney"]

Lying! Cheating!


I think its Hillary with the cajones too point out the absolute hypocrycisy of Obama.

The COULD have not done this, cause Most people didnt vote for them, MOST voted for Clinton.


IT did, you just cant see it!!!!! Besides Obama knows how to go negative, he has proven this many times.

Yup that will get him elected!!!!!

We all know how 'horrible' the Clintons have been to the DNC. Tsk Tsk! Shameful how Bill was the ONLY Democrat who can actually win a election. That is HORRIBLE, what a terrible thing for him to do.



Even if Obama was to get elected....We will still be at war! We still wouldnt have NHC, and we will be dire straights because he is incapable of doing the job. (this is based on his past performance of doing absolutely nothing worth a damn)

What he said I did not read LVDukes posts but DISUNC and I think alot on the same grounds....so what he said.... Thanks DISUNC

 

[kinntj]

Lying! Cheating!

We all know how 'horrible' the Clintons have been to the DNC. Tsk Tsk! Shameful how Bill was the ONLY Democrat who can actually win a election. That is HORRIBLE, what a terrible thing for him to do.

We have a winner!!!

 

[punkin]

He will get no more votes than he already has received in the Primary. Possibly less, since he received many Republican "mischeif votes" in the open primaries & caucuses!

and let us not forget that the "young" tend not to vote. It's a long road to November without the base of your party behind you.

 

["Got Disney"]

yeah ..who needs 75% of the democrat party?

Oh come on DISUNC you know that Obama does not need that 75%....or us.....he can unite all the REP to him...just go ask them in the Cons thread...they will all tell ya that he is the cats meow....and they will unify with Obama....

They need to be afraid...be very afraid.....that the HS are jumping the Obama ship.....but there is nothing wrong with that they dont need any of us bad bad HS... So than I ask...why do they keep coming in here...to convince us with there love and unity of nice words to come and join them.... Sure that works....