Hillary Supporters unite part 2; no bashing please

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I don't know if it's against company policy, but I pulled out a $20 from my wallet and handed it to him. I told him to keep his head up and that he was doing a great job. He tried to give it back but I refused and told him to go get dinner on me in appreciation for his hard work and great attitude. He grinned from ear to ear, thanked me and went back to his job with a whistle. I can only imagine how tough a job that is. Keeping the parks up to "Disney" standards has got some seriously back breaking work...


Obviously cleaning bathrooms, protein spills, dealing with trashcans on fire (lit cigarette butts people toss in) and, as the Mulan parade was at MGM that year, sometimes following the horses with a bucket :scared: wasn’t exactly my dream job but overall it was a good experience. And, I did find a couple of perks to that job that beat out even attractions.

But, to answer your question, it is against company policy -it's a terminable offence to accept tips from guests (unless it's a tipping position such as a server in one of the restaurants). If he did what he was supposed to, he turned the money over to management and never saw it again. I don’t know what management does with tips. :confused3

Once I was leaving a bathroom with several guests exiting in front of me. One of the women suddenly stopped, turned and grabbed 50 cents out of her pocket and shoved it into my shirt pocket and thanked me for my hard work. She left before I could say anything. True, it was only 50 cents but I ran into one of my manager’s right after and handed it over to him as I was supposed to. I have the feeling that he kept it.

But, it was really nice of you to have tipped and complimented that guy. I know that you made his day.


I made believe I was a Monorail driver once.:banana:

WDW Security tends too loose their 'Magic" when one tries that!!!!!:eek: :confused3



;)

:lmao: I'm surprised that you aren't banned from the property.
 
I was a guinea pig for EE when it was opening. Got to love the few perks Disney gives its employees!:cool1: :cool1:

You've noticed that clause in the contract stating that if you die your family isn't allowed to sue Disney - right? When it comes to the rollercoasters.. I sometimes wonder if it's a true perk...:rolleyes:
 
Hey DISUNC! You're PUMA - right??

Are you going to Denver to protest? I just want to give you a heads-up on where you'll more than likely wind-up if you go:

http://cbs4denver.com/video/?id=45273@kcnc.dayport.com
I'm slated to go to Denver, but that (like all travel aspects of my life until November) is subject to change as I'm literally boarding the plane.

DISUNC, I won't post your bail, but I'll treat you to a beer if you're interested :)
 

You've noticed that clause in the contract stating that if you die your family isn't allowed to sue Disney - right? When it comes to the rollercoasters.. I sometimes wonder if it's a true perk...:rolleyes:

Oh I know - Disney is NEVER responsible for anything!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
 
:lmao: I'm surprised that you aren't banned from the property.

Master of Disguises :hippie:

Hey DISUNC! You're PUMA - right??

Are you going to Denver to protest? I just want to give you a heads-up on where you'll more than likely wind-up if you go:

http://cbs4denver.com/video/?id=45273@kcnc.dayport.com

Well I aint a card carrying member but I do admire them!
:scared1: Holy crap so now Hillary supporters/protesters are going to a place that aint fit for Terrorist on Guntamo! Wouldnt be suprised if Pelosi & Co all of the sudden like WaterBoarding!:rolleyes1

That 'jail" is really soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong!:eek:

Yet anudda reason I could NEVER EVER vote for Obama.

BTW I am reading Obama Nation. He is one scarrrrrrrrrry dude!

Scariest book I read since The Exorcist. Gotta sleep with the lights on!:scared1: :scared1: :scared1:
;)
DISUNC, I won't post your bail, but I'll treat you to a beer if you're interested :)
Gee thats swell of ya!
 
Wow - I am sad to say that Denver is my hometown.

But the PTB in Denver always seem to go overboard. I remember watching the New Year's Eve celebrations for Y2K (you know - the world as we know it was gonna end?) and as they went through the times zones starting with Sydney AUS - good old Denver was the only major city to cancel EVERYTHING.
 
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Master of Disguises :hippie:



Well I aint a card carrying member but I do admire them!
:scared1: Holy crap so now Hillary supporters/protesters are going to a place that aint fit for Terrorist on Guntamo! Wouldnt be suprised if Pelosi & Co all of the sudden like WaterBoarding!:rolleyes1

That 'jail" is really soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong!:eek:

Yet anudda reason I could NEVER EVER vote for Obama.

BTW I am reading Obama Nation. He is one scarrrrrrrrrry dude!

Scariest book I read since The Exorcist. Gotta sleep with the lights on!:scared1: :scared1: :scared1:
;)
Gee thats swell of ya!


Oh, I meant to tell you:

CNN had a segment on Obama Nation today. The whole slant was that the book is nothing but a bunch of lies and you’re an idiot to buy and/or believe any of it. My problem with CNN’s segment is this:

They didn’t do any investigative reporting on it. They didn’t take a couple of excerpts from the book, investigate the claims to see if they were fact or fiction and then present the excerpts with a comparison of what they found out while investing the subject. The only thing they did was have Obama’s campaign declare the book to be nothing but lies.

Of course Obama’s campaign is going to declare it to be a bunch of lies.

I haven’t read the book. I don’t really know what the book is about. I do know this: I’ve done my own research on topics that the main stream media refuses to pick-up on and from what was stated in a previous (poofed) thread, I think some of what I’ve researched is in that book. I know what I have researched to be true.

But my question is: When are journalists going to act like journalists again? I wanted to be a journalist when I was younger. Fortunately I decided on something else by the time I reached college. I don’t have any respect for our media at the moment.

Let’s do a hypothetical: Say the book is nothing but lies (but with 900 footnotes to reference, I have a feeling most of the book is probably fact) … but say that it is nothing but lies: CNN should have done a full investigative report on it instead of just slamming the book and its author and then having clips of Obama and his campaign members say that it’s nothing but lies. What kind of reporting was that? :confused3
 
Oh, I meant to tell you:

CNN had a segment on Obama Nation today. The whole slant was that the book is nothing but a bunch of lies and you’re an idiot to buy and/or believe any of it. My problem with CNN’s segment is this:

They didn’t do any investigative reporting on it. They didn’t take a couple of excerpts from the book, investigate the claims to see if they were fact or fiction and then present the excerpts with a comparison of what they found out while investing the subject. The only thing they did was have Obama’s campaign declare the book to be nothing but lies.

Of course Obama’s campaign is going to declare it to be a bunch of lies.

I haven’t read the book. I don’t really know what the book is about. I do know this: I’ve done my own research on topics that the main stream media refuses to pick-up on and from what was stated in a previous (poofed) thread, I think some of what I’ve researched is in that book. I know what I have researched to be true.

But my question is: When are journalists going to act like journalists again? I wanted to be a journalist when I was younger. Fortunately I decided on something else by the time I reached college. I don’t have any respect for our media at the moment.

Let’s do a hypothetical: Say the book is nothing but lies (but with 900 footnotes to reference, I have a feeling most of the book is probably fact) … but say that it is nothing but lies: CNN should have done a full investigative report on it instead of just slamming the book and its author and then having clips of Obama and his campaign members say that it’s nothing but lies. What kind of reporting was that? :confused3

Just saw the author on Larry King. Along with a rep from Media matters. The MM guy didnt let the author get a word in edgewise. What was interesting was that the MM was never specific about what was a lie in the book. All he did was discredit the author, again not using anything specific.

Note: when debating one should always have 2 or 3 specifics to argue.

Then the next segment was a GOP strategist & Radio host Ed Shultz. Ed is a known blowhard. It is a Fact that Obama Nation will debut as #1 on the NYT bestseller list Sunday. Ed catagorily DENIED this saying, nobody is buying it!:confused3 :confused3 Even larry said BUT IT IS #1, and Ed said No it isnt! King of Denile!:confused3

However he goes into depth poking holes into Obamas books. Pointing out many errors, and things that just dont make sense. In many ways like us here, he questions Obama and just dont take his word for what he says.
 
Just saw the author on Larry King. Along with a rep from Media matters. The MM guy didnt let the author get a word in edgewise. What was interesting was that the MM was never specific about what was a lie in the book. All he did was discredit the author, again not using anything specific.

Note: when debating one should always have 2 or 3 specifics to argue.

Then the next segment was a GOP strategist & Radio host Ed Shultz. Ed is a known blowhard. It is a Fact that Obama Nation will debut as #1 on the NYT bestseller list Sunday. Ed catagorily DENIED this saying, nobody is buying it!:confused3 :confused3 Even larry said BUT IT IS #1, and Ed said No it isnt! King of Denile!:confused3

However he goes into depth poking holes into Obamas books. Pointing out many errors, and things that just dont make sense. In many ways like us here, he questions Obama and just dont take his word for what he says.

Well, CNN (reluctantly) admitted that the book was #1.
You know, if the book is full of errors prove it. Again, I haven't read it - yet - and I don't know what this man's sources and references are. But if the content is as well backed-up and referenced as I heard it to be, there should be no problem for some of the media to check out his references and research a couple of points to hit the author on. Instead they’re just slamming him on their opinion that it's a bunch of lies.

Right now they're slamming him on opinions and not facts. Where are the facts to back up their opinion? :confused3
 
You've noticed that clause in the contract stating that if you die your family isn't allowed to sue Disney - right? When it comes to the rollercoasters.. I sometimes wonder if it's a true perk...:rolleyes:

It's an unenforceable clause. You can sign away your own right to sue (in most cases-not all the time), but you cannot sign away your family's rights. Just an FYI.
 
Well, CNN (reluctantly) admitted that the book was #1.
You know, if the book is full of errors prove it. Again, I haven't read it - yet - and I don't know what this man's sources and references are. But if the content is as well backed-up and referenced as I heard it to be, there should be no problem for some of the media to check out his references and research a couple of points to hit the author on. Instead they’re just slamming him on their opinion that it's a bunch of lies.

Right now they're slamming him on opinions and not facts. Where are the facts to back up their opinion? :confused3

I don't like books on either side of the political spectrum that smear people. I'm just curious, what did you all think about the book "The Truth About Hillary" by Ed Klein? It's the same type of book. Were you willing to believe everything in it as readily as the load of crap from Corsi?

Some of the falsehoods in "Obama Nation" (from here, where you can find many more):

The divorce

Corsi baselessly suggests that Obama's father, Barack Obama Sr., may have divorced his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, "following the prescripts of Islamic sharia law." Corsi's sole source for this statement is a blogger who made the claim in a March 20 post, which featured the false headline, "BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WAS MUSLIM FOR 31 YEARS" and misstated Obama's mother's name as "Shirley Ann." The blogger Corsi cited, "Majalah Bulanan Kumunitas Indonesia Di Edmonton," provided no substantiation for the claim that "the senior Obama divorced Dunham according to Sharia law."

The dedication


On Pages 49-50, Corsi falsely claims that Obama did not dedicate Dreams from My Father to his mother or his grandparents. Corsi writes:

Interestingly, Obama did not dedicate Dreams from My Father to his mother, or to his father, Barack Senior, or to his Indonesian stepfather. Missing from the dedication are the grandparents who raised him in Hawaii, especially during the years his mother abandoned him to return to Indonesia to be with Lolo [Soetoro, Obama's stepfather].​

In fact, while the 2004 edition of Dreams -- the version Corsi cites in Obama Nation (Part One, endnote 2, Page 306) -- does not contain a separate dedication page, on Page xvii, the last page of the book's introduction, Obama writes:

It is to my family, though -- my mother, my grandparents, my siblings, stretched across oceans and continents -- that I owe the deepest gratitude and to whom I dedicated this book. Without their constant love and support, without their willingness to let me sing their song and their toleration of the occasional wrong note, I could never have hoped to finish. If nothing else, I hope that the love and respect I feel for them shines through on every page [emphasis added].​

Obama's sister

Corsi falsely claims that Obama does not mention the birth of his half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, during the chapter in Dreams in which he discusses his time living in Indonesia. Corsi writes:

In the midst of the personal drama being played against the background of this Indonesian turmoil, on August 15, 1970, Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, was born to his mother and stepfather. Obama devotes the entire second chapter of his autobiography to his time in Indonesia, but remarkably, he makes no reference to Maya's birth [Page 48].​

In fact, on Page 47 of Dreams, in the chapter discussing his time in Indonesia, Obama writes that "my mother and Lolo would remain cordial through the birth of my sister, Maya."

Zulfin Adi

Corsi writes that in a March 16, 2007, Los Angeles Times article, "The newspaper quoted Zulfan Adi, who described himself as one of Obama's closest childhood friends" during his time in Indonesia. Corsi further writes:

Adi said neighborhood Muslims worshipped in a nearby house. When the muezzin sounded the call to prayer, Adi remembered seeing Lolo and Barry walk together to the makeshift mosque. "His mother often went to the church," Adi told the Times, "but Barry was a Muslim. I remember him wearing a sarong" [Page 56].​

In fact, as Media Matters has noted, key aspects of the March 16 Los Angeles Times article were later challenged by the Chicago Tribune, which reported that Adi said he "was not certain" about his statements regarding Obama's childhood and that he "only knew Obama for a few months." Additionally, the Tribune reported that "nterviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends show that Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia."

Drug use

Corsi falsely claims that Obama "has yet to answer questions" concerning whether "he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college, or whether his drug use extended into his law school days or beyond." Corsi writes:


Still, Obama has yet to answer questions whether he ever dealt drugs, or if he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college, or whether his drug usage extended into his law school days or beyond. Did Obama ever use drugs in his days as a community organizer in Chicago, or when he was a state senator from Illinois? How about in the U.S. Senate? If Obama quit using drugs, the public inquiry certain to occur in a general election campaign for the presidency will most certainly aim at the when, how and why questions George W. Bush successfully avoided [Page 77].​

In fact, Obama wrote in Dreams that he "stopped getting high" shortly after moving to New York City to attend Columbia University as an undergraduate. From Dreams:

When Sadik lost his own lease, we moved in together. And after a few months of closer scrutiny, he began to realize that the city had indeed had an effect on me, although not the one he'd expected. I stopped getting high. I ran three miles a day and fasted on Sundays. For the first time in years, I applied myself to my studies and started keeping a journal of daily reflections and very bad poetry. Whenever Sadik tried to talk me into hitting a bar, I'd beg off with some tepid excuse, too much work or not enough cash [Page 120].​


As Media Matters documented, a July 30 WorldNetDaily.com article about Obama Nation also claimed that the book "points out" that "Barack Obama admitted using drugs in his autobiography but never revealed if or when he stopped."
 
It's an unenforceable clause. You can sign away your own right to sue (in most cases-not all the time), but you cannot sign away your family's rights. Just an FYI.

I know. But I do recall actually reading that my family cannot sue when I signed my contract for Disney. If the contract would have held up in court or not should my family had found reason to sue- that's another question.
 
I know. But I do recall actually reading that my family cannot sue when I signed my contract for Disney. If the contract would have held up in court or not should my family had found reason to sue- that's another question.

True.
 
I don't like books on either side of the political spectrum that smear people. I'm just curious, what did you all think about the book "The Truth About Hillary" by Ed Klein? It's the same type of book. Were you willing to believe everything in it as readily as the load of crap from Corsi?

Some of the falsehoods in "Obama Nation" (from here, where you can find many more):

The divorce

Corsi baselessly suggests that Obama's father, Barack Obama Sr., may have divorced his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, "following the prescripts of Islamic sharia law." Corsi's sole source for this statement is a blogger who made the claim in a March 20 post, which featured the false headline, "BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WAS MUSLIM FOR 31 YEARS" and misstated Obama's mother's name as "Shirley Ann." The blogger Corsi cited, "Majalah Bulanan Kumunitas Indonesia Di Edmonton," provided no substantiation for the claim that "the senior Obama divorced Dunham according to Sharia law."

The dedication


On Pages 49-50, Corsi falsely claims that Obama did not dedicate Dreams from My Father to his mother or his grandparents. Corsi writes:

Interestingly, Obama did not dedicate Dreams from My Father to his mother, or to his father, Barack Senior, or to his Indonesian stepfather. Missing from the dedication are the grandparents who raised him in Hawaii, especially during the years his mother abandoned him to return to Indonesia to be with Lolo [Soetoro, Obama's stepfather].​

In fact, while the 2004 edition of Dreams -- the version Corsi cites in Obama Nation (Part One, endnote 2, Page 306) -- does not contain a separate dedication page, on Page xvii, the last page of the book's introduction, Obama writes:

It is to my family, though -- my mother, my grandparents, my siblings, stretched across oceans and continents -- that I owe the deepest gratitude and to whom I dedicated this book. Without their constant love and support, without their willingness to let me sing their song and their toleration of the occasional wrong note, I could never have hoped to finish. If nothing else, I hope that the love and respect I feel for them shines through on every page [emphasis added].​

Obama's sister

Corsi falsely claims that Obama does not mention the birth of his half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, during the chapter in Dreams in which he discusses his time living in Indonesia. Corsi writes:

In the midst of the personal drama being played against the background of this Indonesian turmoil, on August 15, 1970, Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, was born to his mother and stepfather. Obama devotes the entire second chapter of his autobiography to his time in Indonesia, but remarkably, he makes no reference to Maya's birth [Page 48].​

In fact, on Page 47 of Dreams, in the chapter discussing his time in Indonesia, Obama writes that "my mother and Lolo would remain cordial through the birth of my sister, Maya."

Zulfin Adi

Corsi writes that in a March 16, 2007, Los Angeles Times article, "The newspaper quoted Zulfan Adi, who described himself as one of Obama's closest childhood friends" during his time in Indonesia. Corsi further writes:

Adi said neighborhood Muslims worshipped in a nearby house. When the muezzin sounded the call to prayer, Adi remembered seeing Lolo and Barry walk together to the makeshift mosque. "His mother often went to the church," Adi told the Times, "but Barry was a Muslim. I remember him wearing a sarong" [Page 56].​

In fact, as Media Matters has noted, key aspects of the March 16 Los Angeles Times article were later challenged by the Chicago Tribune, which reported that Adi said he "was not certain" about his statements regarding Obama's childhood and that he "only knew Obama for a few months." Additionally, the Tribune reported that "nterviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends show that Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia."

Drug use

Corsi falsely claims that Obama "has yet to answer questions" concerning whether "he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college, or whether his drug use extended into his law school days or beyond." Corsi writes:


Still, Obama has yet to answer questions whether he ever dealt drugs, or if he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college, or whether his drug usage extended into his law school days or beyond. Did Obama ever use drugs in his days as a community organizer in Chicago, or when he was a state senator from Illinois? How about in the U.S. Senate? If Obama quit using drugs, the public inquiry certain to occur in a general election campaign for the presidency will most certainly aim at the when, how and why questions George W. Bush successfully avoided [Page 77].​

In fact, Obama wrote in Dreams that he "stopped getting high" shortly after moving to New York City to attend Columbia University as an undergraduate. From Dreams:

When Sadik lost his own lease, we moved in together. And after a few months of closer scrutiny, he began to realize that the city had indeed had an effect on me, although not the one he'd expected. I stopped getting high. I ran three miles a day and fasted on Sundays. For the first time in years, I applied myself to my studies and started keeping a journal of daily reflections and very bad poetry. Whenever Sadik tried to talk me into hitting a bar, I'd beg off with some tepid excuse, too much work or not enough cash [Page 120].​


As Media Matters documented, a July 30 WorldNetDaily.com article about Obama Nation also claimed that the book "points out" that "Barack Obama admitted using drugs in his autobiography but never revealed if or when he stopped."



Thank you. This is what the media needs to be doing.

Here’s my issue: The media isn’t doing their job and addressing it properly even when it’s in their favor as they are so far in the tank for Obama. (yes, they are) A responsible journalist would have researched the book, brought up some of the issues such as the birth of Obama’s half-sister and its relation to Obama’s “autobiography”, brought up the facts on the subject that they found in their investigation and let the author refute it.

They’re not doing that. They’re just smearing the author and calling the book a bunch of lies without supporting evidence. As a journalist, that’s irresponsible. However, not surprising with how the primaries and now going into the election has played out with mainstream media.

However, that doesn’t mean that I’m totally dismissing the book. I do plan to purchase it, read it and check the references myself. But no, I’m not so irresponsible to take it face value without checking the guy’s references/sources. But, I doubt that the entire book is a bunch of lies and it will be interesting to see what the author has found. Just doing my own digging, I’m finding a lot of stuff that the mainstream media won’t touch on. Obama has a lot of baggage that he’s been trying to keep low. The media needs to get back to responsible and unbiased journalism.
 
I don't like books on either side of the political spectrum that smear people. I'm just curious, what did you all think about the book "The Truth About Hillary" by Ed Klein? It's the same type of book. Were you willing to believe everything in it as readily as the load of crap from Corsi?

Some of the falsehoods in "Obama Nation" (from here, where you can find many more):

The divorce

Corsi baselessly suggests that Obama's father, Barack Obama Sr., may have divorced his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, "following the prescripts of Islamic sharia law." Corsi's sole source for this statement is a blogger who made the claim in a March 20 post, which featured the false headline, "BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WAS MUSLIM FOR 31 YEARS" and misstated Obama's mother's name as "Shirley Ann." The blogger Corsi cited, "Majalah Bulanan Kumunitas Indonesia Di Edmonton," provided no substantiation for the claim that "the senior Obama divorced Dunham according to Sharia law."

The dedication


On Pages 49-50, Corsi falsely claims that Obama did not dedicate Dreams from My Father to his mother or his grandparents. Corsi writes:

Interestingly, Obama did not dedicate Dreams from My Father to his mother, or to his father, Barack Senior, or to his Indonesian stepfather. Missing from the dedication are the grandparents who raised him in Hawaii, especially during the years his mother abandoned him to return to Indonesia to be with Lolo [Soetoro, Obama's stepfather].​

In fact, while the 2004 edition of Dreams -- the version Corsi cites in Obama Nation (Part One, endnote 2, Page 306) -- does not contain a separate dedication page, on Page xvii, the last page of the book's introduction, Obama writes:

It is to my family, though -- my mother, my grandparents, my siblings, stretched across oceans and continents -- that I owe the deepest gratitude and to whom I dedicated this book. Without their constant love and support, without their willingness to let me sing their song and their toleration of the occasional wrong note, I could never have hoped to finish. If nothing else, I hope that the love and respect I feel for them shines through on every page [emphasis added].​

Obama's sister

Corsi falsely claims that Obama does not mention the birth of his half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, during the chapter in Dreams in which he discusses his time living in Indonesia. Corsi writes:

In the midst of the personal drama being played against the background of this Indonesian turmoil, on August 15, 1970, Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, was born to his mother and stepfather. Obama devotes the entire second chapter of his autobiography to his time in Indonesia, but remarkably, he makes no reference to Maya's birth [Page 48].​

In fact, on Page 47 of Dreams, in the chapter discussing his time in Indonesia, Obama writes that "my mother and Lolo would remain cordial through the birth of my sister, Maya."

Zulfin Adi

Corsi writes that in a March 16, 2007, Los Angeles Times article, "The newspaper quoted Zulfan Adi, who described himself as one of Obama's closest childhood friends" during his time in Indonesia. Corsi further writes:

Adi said neighborhood Muslims worshipped in a nearby house. When the muezzin sounded the call to prayer, Adi remembered seeing Lolo and Barry walk together to the makeshift mosque. "His mother often went to the church," Adi told the Times, "but Barry was a Muslim. I remember him wearing a sarong" [Page 56].​

In fact, as Media Matters has noted, key aspects of the March 16 Los Angeles Times article were later challenged by the Chicago Tribune, which reported that Adi said he "was not certain" about his statements regarding Obama's childhood and that he "only knew Obama for a few months." Additionally, the Tribune reported that "nterviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends show that Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia."

Drug use

Corsi falsely claims that Obama "has yet to answer questions" concerning whether "he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college, or whether his drug use extended into his law school days or beyond." Corsi writes:


Still, Obama has yet to answer questions whether he ever dealt drugs, or if he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college, or whether his drug usage extended into his law school days or beyond. Did Obama ever use drugs in his days as a community organizer in Chicago, or when he was a state senator from Illinois? How about in the U.S. Senate? If Obama quit using drugs, the public inquiry certain to occur in a general election campaign for the presidency will most certainly aim at the when, how and why questions George W. Bush successfully avoided [Page 77].​

In fact, Obama wrote in Dreams that he "stopped getting high" shortly after moving to New York City to attend Columbia University as an undergraduate. From Dreams:

When Sadik lost his own lease, we moved in together. And after a few months of closer scrutiny, he began to realize that the city had indeed had an effect on me, although not the one he'd expected. I stopped getting high. I ran three miles a day and fasted on Sundays. For the first time in years, I applied myself to my studies and started keeping a journal of daily reflections and very bad poetry. Whenever Sadik tried to talk me into hitting a bar, I'd beg off with some tepid excuse, too much work or not enough cash [Page 120].​


As Media Matters documented, a July 30 WorldNetDaily.com article about Obama Nation also claimed that the book "points out" that "Barack Obama admitted using drugs in his autobiography but never revealed if or when he stopped."


Thanks for the facts. Makes you wonder if Corsi even read Obama's books? :confused3 However, what do you expect from a man who authored the Swift-Boat memoirs of John Kerry that helped the right wing hate machine bless this country with another 4 years of Bush. IMO, the guy is pond scum and his writings should be treated as such. I'm sure he's tickled pink to have a number of otherwise intelligent Hillary supporting Democrats purchasing his brand of garbage, rather than the typical knuckle draggers from the extreme far right of the Republican party. He's probably laughing himself all the way to the bank...
 
I don't like books on either side of the political spectrum that smear people. I'm just curious, what did you all think about the book "The Truth About Hillary" by Ed Klein? It's the same type of book. Were you willing to believe everything in it as readily as the load of crap from Corsi?

Some of the falsehoods in "Obama Nation" (from here, where you can find many more):

The divorce

Corsi baselessly suggests that Obama's father, Barack Obama Sr., may have divorced his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, "following the prescripts of Islamic sharia law." Corsi's sole source for this statement is a blogger who made the claim in a March 20 post, which featured the false headline, "BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WAS MUSLIM FOR 31 YEARS" and misstated Obama's mother's name as "Shirley Ann." The blogger Corsi cited, "Majalah Bulanan Kumunitas Indonesia Di Edmonton," provided no substantiation for the claim that "the senior Obama divorced Dunham according to Sharia law."

The dedication


On Pages 49-50, Corsi falsely claims that Obama did not dedicate Dreams from My Father to his mother or his grandparents. Corsi writes:

Interestingly, Obama did not dedicate Dreams from My Father to his mother, or to his father, Barack Senior, or to his Indonesian stepfather. Missing from the dedication are the grandparents who raised him in Hawaii, especially during the years his mother abandoned him to return to Indonesia to be with Lolo [Soetoro, Obama's stepfather].​

In fact, while the 2004 edition of Dreams -- the version Corsi cites in Obama Nation (Part One, endnote 2, Page 306) -- does not contain a separate dedication page, on Page xvii, the last page of the book's introduction, Obama writes:

It is to my family, though -- my mother, my grandparents, my siblings, stretched across oceans and continents -- that I owe the deepest gratitude and to whom I dedicated this book. Without their constant love and support, without their willingness to let me sing their song and their toleration of the occasional wrong note, I could never have hoped to finish. If nothing else, I hope that the love and respect I feel for them shines through on every page [emphasis added].​

Obama's sister

Corsi falsely claims that Obama does not mention the birth of his half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, during the chapter in Dreams in which he discusses his time living in Indonesia. Corsi writes:

In the midst of the personal drama being played against the background of this Indonesian turmoil, on August 15, 1970, Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, was born to his mother and stepfather. Obama devotes the entire second chapter of his autobiography to his time in Indonesia, but remarkably, he makes no reference to Maya's birth [Page 48].​

In fact, on Page 47 of Dreams, in the chapter discussing his time in Indonesia, Obama writes that "my mother and Lolo would remain cordial through the birth of my sister, Maya."

Zulfin Adi

Corsi writes that in a March 16, 2007, Los Angeles Times article, "The newspaper quoted Zulfan Adi, who described himself as one of Obama's closest childhood friends" during his time in Indonesia. Corsi further writes:

Adi said neighborhood Muslims worshipped in a nearby house. When the muezzin sounded the call to prayer, Adi remembered seeing Lolo and Barry walk together to the makeshift mosque. "His mother often went to the church," Adi told the Times, "but Barry was a Muslim. I remember him wearing a sarong" [Page 56].​

In fact, as Media Matters has noted, key aspects of the March 16 Los Angeles Times article were later challenged by the Chicago Tribune, which reported that Adi said he "was not certain" about his statements regarding Obama's childhood and that he "only knew Obama for a few months." Additionally, the Tribune reported that "nterviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends show that Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia."

Drug use

Corsi falsely claims that Obama "has yet to answer questions" concerning whether "he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college, or whether his drug use extended into his law school days or beyond." Corsi writes:


Still, Obama has yet to answer questions whether he ever dealt drugs, or if he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college, or whether his drug usage extended into his law school days or beyond. Did Obama ever use drugs in his days as a community organizer in Chicago, or when he was a state senator from Illinois? How about in the U.S. Senate? If Obama quit using drugs, the public inquiry certain to occur in a general election campaign for the presidency will most certainly aim at the when, how and why questions George W. Bush successfully avoided [Page 77].​

In fact, Obama wrote in Dreams that he "stopped getting high" shortly after moving to New York City to attend Columbia University as an undergraduate. From Dreams:

When Sadik lost his own lease, we moved in together. And after a few months of closer scrutiny, he began to realize that the city had indeed had an effect on me, although not the one he'd expected. I stopped getting high. I ran three miles a day and fasted on Sundays. For the first time in years, I applied myself to my studies and started keeping a journal of daily reflections and very bad poetry. Whenever Sadik tried to talk me into hitting a bar, I'd beg off with some tepid excuse, too much work or not enough cash [Page 120].​


As Media Matters documented, a July 30 WorldNetDaily.com article about Obama Nation also claimed that the book "points out" that "Barack Obama admitted using drugs in his autobiography but never revealed if or when he stopped."



Like Dolce said...why couldnt this Media matters guy state this stuff last night on tv???

I dont believe everthing I read (unless its in the NE :lmao: ). I didnt read the Hillary book, becuse after all these years we knew her. She has been vetted.

I am reading the Obama book, because other than his own words about himself...What do we have??? I am sure this is why it is a bestseller too. No one else is writing a book telling specifics of how good Obama is.

Like I said a zillion times, All we have is Obama telling us how wonderful he is. There is NOBODY from his past backing any of this up!
 
A good book about Obama from someone other than Obama would be nice. I guess that there hasn't been time because he certainly has his fans!
 
A good book about Obama from someone other than Obama would be nice. I guess that there hasn't been time because he certainly has his fans!

There are. Hopes and Dreams: The Story of Barack Obama, Obama: From Promise to Power & Barack Obama: This Improbable Quest are just three among a ton of pro-Obama books on the shelves at Amazon. Finding them's as easy as a mouse click away. Plain and simple, the negative ones get more juice with the media...
 
There are. Hopes and Dreams: The Story of Barack Obama, Obama: From Promise to Power & Barack Obama: This Improbable Quest are just three among a ton of pro-Obama books on the shelves at Amazon. Finding them's as easy as a mouse click away. Plain and simple, the negative ones get more juice with the media...

How are these books test any more or less legit than Corsi's?
 
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