Hillary Clinton --- Is this true?

[ThAnswr]

Originally posted by Kendra17
I disagree with Pat Buchanan. . .he's an old school radical--fringe and extreme. The democratic party USED to reflect views such as Joe Lieberman's and Zell Miller's. They weren't the ones who changed, ThAnswr. Listen to Al Gore a year ago. . .he didn't yell the things he yells now. . .hell, he didn't yell at all. . . How is it that Kerry, a junior senator from Massachusetts, with the poorest voting attendance record in the Senate, a military record in dispute, and a wife who seems bent on torpedoing his ambitions, should be given the nomination? Why? Hilary, the real candidate, is currently unelectable. Bill can't serve a third term. And Kennedy derailed his career after Mary Jo Kopechne. So, being the most liberal leftist in the Senate, and being a war veteran--and decorated at that--Kerry becomes the candidate by default. It doesn't matter that his Senatorial career is uninspiring. It matters that he inspires the radical core of the Democratic party. It doesn't matter that he has no charisma and it doesn't matter that he has no plan. He represents the core. He is The Man.

When he fades into obscurity and takes some lame academic position, when he is ousted from his Senate Seat by the newly, soon-to-be population of MA, the inevitable comparisons between he and Dukakis will be made. And, those comparisons will be valid, because Kerry is the new Dukakis.

There's a reason WHY Gore, Hilary, and Kerry yell now. They know the constituency is now extreme and responds to extreme language. (Howard Dean also understood that but didn't play it correctly because he just screamed with grunts, which frightened people.) Now, to the Democrats, screaming absurd extremist statements is somehow considered valid. That's why the upcoming Kerry defeat will have to signal a restructuring of the party of Clinton, Gore, and bring it back to rationality. Don't forget: Abraham Lincoln was the very first Republican candidate.

Republicanism is the party of freedom and responsibility.

Hannity overdose again?

 

[Kendra17]

Originally posted by ThAnswr
Hannity overdose again?

Actually, no. . .though I'm quite flattered by the comparison.

 

[peachgirl]

And I have every right to have my signature line.

Never said you didn't. Leave it, take it off, I don't care and it doesn't change what it is. As someone else said, it says more about you than it does people who are Democrats.

we don't whine.

Uh-huh...if it walks like a duck.....

What's really amazing is that you are making yourself look like an *** by continuing this disagreement.

I see, I'm responding to myself when I post, right? I figure if I look like an *** to you, I'm doing something right. Only when I have your approval will I get worried.

Ask me if I give a damn!

Well of course, now that your little claim has been proven to be a lie the only out would be that you don't care.

Actually 2 of your whines were lies, but you failed to address the last one....you know, the one where you twisted the responses around to make it look like I responded to something I didn't???
Talk about typical....it's a hallmark technique of the right.

Are you through stomping your feet yet?

 

[we3luvdisney]

Originally posted by peachgirl
Never said you didn't. Leave it, take it off, I don't care and it doesn't change what it is. As someone else said, it says more about you than it does people who are Democrats.

Just for your info, I don't need your approval for my signature line. Were you that child that ran around the neighborhood telling the other kids that your father was better than theirs? Face facts, you're jealous that I came up with an original "internet bumper sticker" before you. I think I may have to edit the signature line to state, "Vote Democrat ---- It's easier than coming up with an original thought."

Uh-huh...if it walks like a duck.....

Wow, another original thought

I see, I'm responding to myself when I post, right? I figure if I look like an *** to you, I'm doing something right. Only when I have your approval will I get worried.

Yea, if I were you I would stick with that story. Actually, what I said was, "What's really amazing is that you are making yourself look like an *** by continuing this disagreement." Which means that people are reading this thread and are probably wondering why she's making such a huge issue about someone's signature thread. I think you need to go back and read the thread to see how silly you're becoming. As for me, I don't know if you look like an ***, I've never seen you before. However, I do know that you're acting like a child.

Well of course, now that your little claim has been proven to be a lie the only out would be that you don't care.

I never lied, go back and read your thread. I responded to your statement. Actually you're right, I don't care about you.

Are you through stomping your feet yet?

Gee, another original response. Nope I'm not stomping my feet, but I'm shaking my head, because you're looking sillier and sillier every time you posts.

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by WillyJ
Thanks for the link We3luvdisney!


There's a lot of info there and I will go through it. . .

You might also want to go through the recommendations of the defense secretary at the time, since he was the one recommending those cuts. His name ? Why, that would be Vice Presidnet Crash Cart himself, one Dick Cheney (Amazing how the republicans always forget to mention that when slamming Kerry for voting against these "weapons systems"....which is a misnomer in itself, by the way...he was voting against the defense apporpriations bill, not any specific weapon...Again, more things Republicans would rather you didn't know )

Just thought you might like a little more info on it, in case it hasn't come up yet.

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by Kendra17
The Democrats believe that our presence in Iraq, our invasion of Afghanistan, the new Department of Homeland Security, the massive capital spending--which is the origin of the current deficit--for National Security and Defense purposes is merely a function of a passing Republican Administration.

More lies...I haven't heard a single Democrat criticize the decision to go into Afghanistan. NOT ONE. There may have been some wrangling about the Department of Homeland Security, but it was the BUSH administration that was initially against the idea, let's not forget. As for the massive capital spending...yeah, the Dems are against that, but only when it is not paid for as we go. Bush wanted a tax break for his rich cronies, and refused to roll it back despite the spiraling cost of the unnecessary war in Iraq.

 

[peachgirl]

Face facts, you're jealous that I came up with an original "internet bumper sticker" before you.

Speaking of immature....

Wow, another original thought

Try 4 rolleye smilies next time...I know it'll be a challenge, but the accomplishment will be something you can be proud of.

Which means that people are reading this thread and are probably wondering why she's making such a huge issue about someone's signature thread.

Wow! *****ing about your signature line sure put a bug up your ***, didn't it? Take a deep breath, calm down and try to get over the fact that not everyone in the world thinks your ignorant little comments at the end of your posts are hilarious or even the tiniest bit entertaining. It happens.

The only one making a huge issue here is you, posting time after time ranting and raving because I, along with many others, think your signature line is insulting to people who vote Democratic. It sure doesn't take much to send you right off the edge, does it?

I never lied, go back and read your thread.

Yes you did and you did twice. Once you lied and said I was the first to complain. I proved I wasn't. And secondly you edited my comments so that it looked like I was responding to something I didn't.

When you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar you have 2 choices. Say, screw you and eat the cookie or admit you took the damn thing. What you can't do is sit there with crumbs on your face and deny it....at least not credibly.

I'm shaking my head, because you're looking sillier and sillier every time you posts.

Don't shake it too hard, whatever is in there may fall out. Then again, that might be a good thing.

 

[jrydberg]

Someone let me know if this ever gets substantive

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by jrydberg
Someone let me know if this ever gets substantive

In a thread started by this OP, you ought to know better j

 

[jrydberg]

Just call me a dreamer

 

[peachgirl]

Originally posted by jrydberg
Someone let me know if this ever gets substantive

The topic on this thread was all about soldiers trying to send secret hand signals to show their distress over shaking hands with Senator Clinton...

You expect that it should get substantive?

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by jrydberg
Just call me a dreamer

But you're not the only one....

(Sorry...John Lennon moment....Had to be done )

 

[jrydberg]

Well, I didn't say I *expected* it to get substantive now, did I?

 

[Elwood Blues]

Originally posted by wvrevy
More lies...I haven't heard a single Democrat criticize the decision to go into Afghanistan. NOT ONE.

Your poster child Michael Moore did.

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by Elwood Blues
Your poster child Michael Moore did.

Does that make David Duke the poster child of the Republican party ?



Moore is an extreme liberal, but I've heard him say at least a dozen times that he is not a democrat.

 

[Elwood Blues]

Originally posted by wvrevy
Bush wanted a tax break for his rich cronies,

I'm sure you're not one of GWBs rich cronies but are you going to send yours back in?

You always cry about the tax cuts for the rich (just who that is is up for debate) but I've don't think I've EVER heard one person say they are willing to voluntarily send extra in. Would you?

These are two simple questions and a yes or no will suffice.

 

[Elwood Blues]

Originally posted by wvrevy
Does that make David Duke the poster child of the Republican party ?

Typical. More redirection.

Moore is an extreme liberal, but I've heard him say at least a dozen times that he is not a democrat.

There's a difference?

 

[caitycaity]

You always cry about the tax cuts for the rich (just who that is is up for debate) but I've don't think I've EVER heard one person say they are willing to voluntarily send extra in. Would you?

i would have sent any money back from the tax cuts over the past year if i could have. i don't think they were fiscally responsible.

 

[peachgirl]

I've don't think I've EVER heard one person say they are willing to voluntarily send extra in. Would you?

Actually there was a thread in the last couple of days complaining because Kerry opted for a lower tax rate on his state income tax.

Apparently some conservatives think the rich should offer to pay more than they have to.

Well, I didn't say I *expected* it to get substantive now, did I?

No, you didn't but I suppose miracles do happen.

Edited to add...

Let me clarify, I'm not sure than any of the posters complained, but as I recall there was complaining on the program the op was listening to.

Just trying to get it right....

 

[Elwood Blues]

Originally posted by caitycaity
i would have sent any money back from the tax cuts over the past year if i could have. i don't think they were fiscally responsible.

But my other question is would you send in extra (I don't know if you can but I'd be surprised if you couldn't) above the tax cuts?