High Deduct. Health Plan and an HRA???? (long)

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I'm an HR chick but my company is too small to offer something like this and I am clueless!

Any experiences you all would care to share?
Good, bad and the ugly!

Preventive care is covered at 100% (is that regular Dr. visits, non specialists etc, or just physicals?)

If we end up with some sort of issue that results in us using up the deductible is the out of pocket portion something we can add to our Flex spending accounts for reimbursement?

If we use up all the deductible and then go to co-insurance how does that work?

DH needs to have a follow up colonoscopy next year, would that be preventative or in essence we would max out the deductible and more in one swoop.

FWIW this plan is thru CIGNA and there is a link in the email that DH has but it can only be accessed internally.....I hate when they do that, my DH is a benefit bonehead :laughing:

Here is the email his DH's company sent out with a brief overview:


Consumer Driven Health Plans
A Consumer Driven or Consumer Choice Health Plan (CDHP or CCHP) is a high-deductible health plan that enables you to take a more active role in how you manage your health care and spending. One example is our new CIGNA Choice Fund HRA option, which offers a lower employee contribution than other options, pays 100% for preventive care services, and features a Health Reimbursement Account (HRA) funded by CO.

Health Reimbursement Account (HRA)
When you enroll in the CIGNA Choice Fund HRA plan, you are automatically enrolled in a Health Reimbursement Account (HRA). An HRA is an account funded by CO that you can use to pay for medical expenses before you begin to pay out-of-pocket.

One of the advantages of an HRA is that unused dollars roll over into the following year's fund to be applied to future, qualified medical expenses. The amount that can be rolled over is limited to the total amount of your annual deductible.

Beyond preventive care, any and all healthcare services will be paid for by either the HRA or you until the annual deductible is met. At that point, coinsurance is applied based on in or out-of-network care. Once your annual out-of-pocket maximum is met in-network, the plan then pays at 100% for the remainder of the plan year.

Expenses Covered by the HRA

Because covered services vary from plan to plan, it's important to read plan materials once they are available. Typically, you'll be responsible for paying:

your bi-weekly premium contribution (deducted from your CO paycheck);
any costs for services not covered by your plan;
any costs for services received after the HRA fund is depleted and before the deductible is met;
coinsurance after your plan coverage begins (up to your annual in-network out-of-pocket maximum).

If all your annual medical expenses are for covered services, and the total cost doesn't exceed the number of dollars in your fund, you won't have to pay any out-of-pocket costs.
 
I'm an HR chick but my company is too small to offer something like this and I am clueless!

Any experiences you all would care to share?
Good, bad and the ugly!

Preventive care is covered at 100% (is that regular Dr. visits, non specialists etc, or just physicals?)

Preventive care is a yearly physical and the blood work that is done..so basic labs like CBC, general health panel, cholesterol etc. For men it usually will include the PSA test. For women it will include a yearly OB/GYN visit for the pap smear and also your mammogram. Immunization are usually a part of that. Colonoscopy is usually part. Also well child exams are part of preventive too.

If we end up with some sort of issue that results in us using up the deductible is the out of pocket portion something we can add to our Flex spending accounts for reimbursement?

Yes, the FSA can be used to reimburse for any expenses after the HRA is used up


If we use up all the deductible and then go to co-insurance how does that work?

This is all plan specific...example, you meet the deductible and your coinsurance is an 80/20 split. When the claim comes in they take the allowed amount and insurance pays 80 then you pay 20. Deductible is also based on the full amount.

One thing as a heads up with deductible and co-insurance and the CDHP...they almost always will have in and out of network benefits. Out of network is usually a much higher deductible and lower co-insurance..maybe 60/40. PLUS out of network doctors don't have to agree to the allowed amount and can balance bill you.



DH needs to have a follow up colonoscopy next year, would that be preventative or in essence we would max out the deductible and more in one swoop.

Is this a new plan for him? If it is a new plan they will have no idea if he had one under another plan. How it processes is going to be based on the diagnosis code that comes in on it. If it is billed as a routine screening..preventive. My plan has first colonoscopy of the year at 100% regardless of diagnosis...just something else for you to try and look into.


FWIW this plan is thru CIGNA and there is a link in the email that DH has but it can only be accessed internally.....I hate when they do that, my DH is a benefit bonehead :laughing:

Here is the email his DH's company sent out with a brief overview:


Consumer Driven Health Plans
A Consumer Driven or Consumer Choice Health Plan (CDHP or CCHP) is a high-deductible health plan that enables you to take a more active role in how you manage your health care and spending. One example is our new CIGNA Choice Fund HRA option, which offers a lower employee contribution than other options, pays 100% for preventive care services, and features a Health Reimbursement Account (HRA) funded by CO.

Health Reimbursement Account (HRA)
When you enroll in the CIGNA Choice Fund HRA plan, you are automatically enrolled in a Health Reimbursement Account (HRA). An HRA is an account funded by CO that you can use to pay for medical expenses before you begin to pay out-of-pocket.

One of the advantages of an HRA is that unused dollars roll over into the following year's fund to be applied to future, qualified medical expenses. The amount that can be rolled over is limited to the total amount of your annual deductible.

Beyond preventive care, any and all healthcare services will be paid for by either the HRA or you until the annual deductible is met. At that point, coinsurance is applied based on in or out-of-network care. Once your annual out-of-pocket maximum is met in-network, the plan then pays at 100% for the remainder of the plan year.

Expenses Covered by the HRA

Because covered services vary from plan to plan, it's important to read plan materials once they are available. Typically, you'll be responsible for paying:

your bi-weekly premium contribution (deducted from your CO paycheck);
any costs for services not covered by your plan;
any costs for services received after the HRA fund is depleted and before the deductible is met;
coinsurance after your plan coverage begins (up to your annual in-network out-of-pocket maximum).

If all your annual medical expenses are for covered services, and the total cost doesn't exceed the number of dollars in your fund, you won't have to pay any out-of-pocket costs.

CDHP with the HRA are nice options if you don't see doctors a lot. This year (knock on wood) we aren't even remotely close to using our account We now have HSA and not HRA) because no one has needed to go to the doctors. The first year we had it we maxed out our out of pocket in February when my daughter needed back surgery. Last year we maxed out 2 weeks before Christmas when my other daughter had to have her appendix out.

Also CDHP will have a out of pocket max. Once that is met the insurance pays at 100% of coinsurance...basically you are done for the year...they cover everything.
 
Just take note that in 2011 there are big changes to HRA's - mostly that the cap will be much lower than this year. I think $2500 max.

We have one at my job and it confuses me but I know it's going to be different in 2011.
 


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