Hey Walkers Wanna Share Training???

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I know there are a lot of walkers on here as well as runners and run walkers. I'm a walker now since an injury to my achillies ended my running. I thought it would be nice to have a section for walkers since there is tons of information out there for runners but not much for walkers.

Training for walking is very similar to run training: There are three core elements to a good well rounded walk training program;

1. The weekly long slow distance walk (LSD), for half and full training this is the most important. But it builds endurance for walks of all distance. Erica and I are doing the Goofy next year so we are doing an LSD of 10 miles on monday and a progressively increasing walk on tuesday till we get to a 10/20 combo, then we will do the 10/20 every second week. We try to stay in half marathon shape all the time and then just need to ramp up aq bit before a marathon but the Goofy is going to require some targeted training.

We are part of a walking site that has a few ultra walkers and a personal trainer for advice so we had their advice to help us put our Goofy plan together. We are having a hard time right now because of the record freezing weather. The weather will break soon and we will get on with it.

2. Speed work: There are lots of ways to get faster in your walking. Going to a track and doing interval training is a good way to do it. Dave McGovern who has a racewalking site recommends doing intervals from 200m on up to 1600m. Basicly interval training is going faster than you normally go for a half (200m) or full (400) circle of a track then going slower than normal for the same distance. Then repeating the process till you have your workout done. I usually do 4 to 6 fast 400s with a 400 recovery walk between, but the combination you do should fit your fitness level at the time. Your body will tell you when you have had enough.

3. Tempo walks: These are walks where you start out slower till you warm up (when you begin to sweat) then speeding up to a comfortable but challanging pace for a couple of miles, then a slower walk again till you cool down abit. You don't want to go right from brisk to sitting down. You want some easy walking till you feel relaxed aqgain.


My racewalking mentor told me that the most important thing I can do to get faster is to stretch regulary. I still haven't gotten into a good routine of that but I know I need to work on that.

Arm swing is important to a walker also. When you run your stride is out front so your arms should pump forward. With walking the stride is more to the back so your arm swing is more to the back. Imagine trying to put your elbows back as far as possible as you walk fast.

When you walk try to walk a straight line. Walking duck footed is not very good. I like to walk on a line at the track to help me concentrate on keeping the stride in a straight line. In walking just like running you want all motion to be forward, any side to side motion slows you down.

A strong stomach will keep you from having back pain from training. Your back is usually much stronger so you start with an imbalance. Regular stomach exercises help correct this imballance. I hate crunches so the exercise I do is to tighten my stomach and hold it for a few seconds then relax, repeat for a few minutes. This works well for me.

Please share your thoughts and experience here on this thread. Please feel free to comment, there are lots of good ways to train so please add your thoughts.

Dave:)
 
Dave!
Thanks so much for starting this thread. :hug: I really think it is needed. While I'm SO PROUD of ALL our teammates I was feeling a little i don't know, left out maybe, with everyone reporting such long runs with unbelievable times. I hope this is going to be a comfortable place to get to know the walkers better. Sorry I don't have much to report on the training aspect. With the pregnancy I'm just trying to get some steps put in each day. That's a big enough goal for me! But I can't wait to hear what events other walkers are training for. It's hard for me to find races that are walker friendly. Gosh, I could go on jabbering all day. I'm so excited about this thread! :woohoo: I'll definitely be back often!
 
Dave!
Thanks so much for starting this thread. :hug: I really think it is needed. While I'm SO PROUD of ALL our teammates I was feeling a little i don't know, left out maybe, with everyone reporting such long runs with unbelievable times. I hope this is going to be a comfortable place to get to know the walkers better. Sorry I don't have much to report on the training aspect. With the pregnancy I'm just trying to get some steps put in each day. That's a big enough goal for me! But I can't wait to hear what events other walkers are training for. It's hard for me to find races that are walker friendly. Gosh, I could go on jabbering all day. I'm so excited about this thread! :woohoo: I'll definitely be back often!

Thank you for responding and congradulations!!!!

I thought it would be nice to share ideas and experiences as walkers. Our experiences are a little different but sometimes the same as runners. We don't get the pounding on the knees and joints that runners get but we are out training a lot longer generally. There is a big difference in doing a marathon in 4 to 5 hours as a runner and 5 to 8 hours as a walker.

Erica and I are going to be breaking new ground with training for this Goofy so we will be learning as we go.

Walk strong.

Dave:)
 
Shoes for walkers are often confusing. A lot of companies make a stiff leather or synthetic "walking shoe". I even talked to the New Balance rep, who trains the shoe store people to fit shoes, and she said avoid them. The best shoe for a walker is a good running shoe that fits your foot your walking gait and your arch type. New Balance is the only company that makes a shoe specificly for racewalking that is the NB 111.

Most walkers do best in a good running shoe with a fairly low heel and good flexability. I have since the Disney expo, been using a Brooks ST2 Racer which is a light weight trainer, so far I like it very well. I use the NB 111s for short races.

Erica has flat feet and blisters easily. She has found that the Misuno (sp) inspire 2 and 3 works best for her.

It's best to have a running/walking speciality store fit you with shoes then when you know the type of shoe you need you can experiment around a bit.

Dave:)
 

Dave,

Thanks for starting this thread. Much of what I have learned about walking comes from the site you mentioned. I enjoy reading over there. I am finding that trying to post daily on dis and the other is just too much. But, the information I have learned over there has made a huge difference. For any walkers interested, the address is thewalkingsite.com.

I do need to find better shoes. I have NB running shoes, but I can tell the heel is a bit high for walking. It is hard to find the right balance between flexibility and stability. I have stuck to NB because they seem to have a wider toe box which I need. I wear a 6.5 wide :goodvibes. Since I just bought the ones I am wearing, I will stick with them and look for a lower heel next time.

Anyway, I have noticed my walking has improved tons once I focused on posture and moving at my hips. Infact, the more my hips have loosened up the better the walk has felt. Oh, and taking shorter steps.

I am still in training to train mode for my first half in august. I am going to follow the half marathon training plan on thewalkingsite.com. It seems like a solid plan for me. Right now, I am at week one and will stay there until it is time to start official training in May.

Maggie
 
:wave2: I was strolling around looking for info about the 5K next year and found you

I am doing a 5K next week, my first in about 3 yrs...have been training for it and feel ready, what I have problems with is, I have Plantar Fasciitis in my left foot, had it in the right for 2 yrs it healed finally and I guess from all the stress of overcompensating I now have it in the left foot. Got me some supprts and stretching aids and hopefully will feel better soon...any tips on this?

My shoes - I got some Asics Gel Kayano and my SIL got some Asics Kinsei's...these shoes are awesome!!! pays to get some well made shoes!! love them cause they breathe it seems and they have a wide toe area so I can wiggle my toes as I walk and they wont go numb!very light weight shoeLOve them, will definately buy another pair(when they go on sale!;) )

so anyways - thanks for getting this up!! I hope to learn alot!
 
Dave-

I did the Flying Pig May 06 with Team in Training. I see that you are doing it this year. I too am a walker. You will enjoy the race much more if you prepare for the hills. After about mile 17 you are good to go - no more hills!

Good luck!

Jackie
 
Hi,
This is great. I'm proud of my walking workouts but when I read the running posts I feel a little deflated. lol. I was on the treadmill at the gym today walking and I snuck a look at the runner beside me. He was running at a slower pace than my walk. That surprised me.
I've been concentrating on my posture. And I was told by my personal trainer to keep my shoulders down and relaxed. I have to remind myself frequently as my shoulders start to tighten up automatically. Also to keep my head up. Helps with the breathing???

Today I did 30 minutes with an average speed of 4.0. I alternated between 3.9 and 4.2. I'm in Canada and not fond of cold weather so it will be a couple of months before I get off the TM.
My short term goal is to train for ten K and my long term goal is a marathon.
 
Dave, thanks for starting this thread. I think I can relate far better to walkers than runners, since walking is what I am doing. I really liked the tips you have shared so far. I have been off my training routine for a while betewwn the holidays, sick and a variety of other distractions and I am just starting to get back on track, so your post has really gotten me motivated!

I especially like the tips about speedwork since I am notoriously slow! I've gotten stronger over time, but not a whole lot faster.

Right now I do not have any scheduled events on my calendar but I'd like to start getting ready for Minnie weekend. Probably the 5K. That seems to be a good distance for me, and DH will probably do it with me again this year. I haven't been online very much lately, but I will try to get back here as often as possible.

I noticed in your signature the Sr Olympics 2007 listing. What events will you be doing? Also, where are they being held? Nice to see someone here in my age range!
 
I especially like the tips about speedwork since I am notoriously slow! I've gotten stronger over time, but not a whole lot faster.


I noticed in your signature the Sr Olympics 2007 listing. What events will you be doing? Also, where are they being held? Nice to see someone here in my age range![/QUOTE]

Speed is all about flexability and strength. Do your stretching, but not cold. I like to do light calistetics like arm circles, trunk twists and side bends ect that lightly works your core while you warm up a little before stretching. Or you could walk about 10 min or so then stretch.

Building strength in your legs and hips can be done with light weights or the machines at the gym. Personally I take a page from the Kenyan's training manual and walk hills instead. Twice or 3 times a week walk a route that has a couple of good hills on it.

The Senior Olympic Games are held every two years, in a different state each time. This year they are held in Louisville Ky, about a hundred miles from my home. The trials for the national level Olympic Games are the state level games. You must medal at state to go forward to the national level.

I'm competing in the 1500m and the 5K racewalk. I don't have a prayer of medaling at the national level, these guys are the best in the country. I'm just a country walker who got lucky and beat a few walkers at state.

Dave:)
 
Dave-

I did the Flying Pig May 06 with Team in Training. I see that you are doing it this year. I too am a walker. You will enjoy the race much more if you prepare for the hills. After about mile 17 you are good to go - no more hills!

Good luck!

Jackie

Thanks Jackie. I train on hills and I'm puting them into Erica's training more and more. Wen we do our weekly LSD we have a very steep hill about a quarter mile long in the middle of it.

That hill up to the Park at the big looks like a bear.

Dave:)
 
:wave2: I was strolling around looking for info about the 5K next year and found you

I am doing a 5K next week, my first in about 3 yrs...have been training for it and feel ready, what I have problems with is, I have Plantar Fasciitis in my left foot, had it in the right for 2 yrs it healed finally and I guess from all the stress of overcompensating I now have it in the left foot. Got me some supprts and stretching aids and hopefully will feel better soon...any tips on this?

!

Our personal trainer, Patty on the walking site has problems with it. She freezes a water bottle and rolls her foot on it every day after walking. She also uses a yoga strap to stretch her feet when sitting with legs straight out.
By pulling back on her toes with the strap.

Dave:)
 
I do need to find better shoes. I have NB running shoes, but I can tell the heel is a bit high for walking. It is hard to find the right balance between flexibility and stability. I have stuck to NB because they seem to have a wider toe box which I need. I wear a 6.5 wide :goodvibes. Since I just bought the ones I am wearing, I will stick with them and look for a lower heel next time.

Anyway, I have noticed my walking has improved tons once I focused on posture and moving at my hips. Infact, the more my hips have loosened up the better the walk has felt. Oh, and taking shorter steps.


Maggie[/QUOTE]


Maggie, the Brooks brand of shoes have wide toe boxes also. I can't wear Nike or Adidas shoes because of the they are to narrow.

Yep when you get walking from the hips down you start to feel like you are gliding along.

So glad it's coming together for you.:yay: :cheer2:

Dave:)
 
I got into walking because of an injury to my achillies tendon. I have scar tissue there from a tear. I had continued to run although much slower and much less distance. I took long breaks to heal, twice for 3 months. I started developing a lot of other problems because of favoring that ankle when I ran.

I started getting pain behind my right knee and and a general feeling of deep soreness in my legs. I would run slow 3 miles three times a week and feel sore and tired all the time.

Every 5k I did was a personal worse. Then on Memorial day last year I ran a 5K on grass and bearly finished because I was in so much pain. I went to the Ciropractor and found out I was having compounding problems because of favoring my left achillies. I had created a bad imbalance.

So I made a decision to quit running and go full speed ahead into racewalking. By July I was racewalking at a 12 mpm pace and entered a 2 mile race and came in third at a pace of 11:23 per mile.

The big thing was I have zero pain now, I can train 40 to 50 miles a week and have no pain what so ever. I loved running but at least for now the walking is what works.

Dave:)
 
Hi everyone,
I need some advice on shin splints, they are chronic!!
I think I am doing eevrything that I am supposed to do as far as stretching, rest, slow speed, etc. This morning I did a 5K and I was in pain the entire way. Could it be that I have something other than shin splints? I have read about compartment syndrome, but I am not a runner. It is a throbbing pain, down the side of my calf...it almost feels like my lower leg is a tree trunk, my foot slaps the ground as I walk...any advice or thoughts.
thanks
 
I tried to make my walking more of a glide today and my legs felt a lot stronger. Thanks for all the info everyone!

Anyone know what it means when I get an ache kind of like a cramp in the arch of my foot? It doesn't happen all the time and sometimes it's both feet, but today it was just the left. Is it ill fitting shoes?

Keep it up WISH Walkers! :cool1: :cool1:
 
Hi All:)

It is really cool to read your posts.

A couple of thoughts on shin pain. Shin pain can be from:

1) overdoing...doing too much to soon or walking too many days without rest
days. For beginnners, a rest day every other day is good; for others, a
rest day after 3-6 days is good. Listen to your body, if you need a rest
day...take it.
2) if you just started a walking program, you can have shin pain from your
muscles learning something different.
3) shoes...are you wearing the right shoe for your foot type. Keep
track of how many miles you have walked in your shoes...maximum
should be between 300 to 500 miles depending on the wear of your
shoe...look at the soles, if the tread is flat time for new shoes.
4) an overuse injury...ITband injury can cause knee and shin pain.

That is all I can think of right now. I will post more when I think of them.

Erica:)
 
Hi everyone,
I need some advice on shin splints, they are chronic!!
I think I am doing eevrything that I am supposed to do as far as stretching, rest, slow speed, etc. This morning I did a 5K and I was in pain the entire way. Could it be that I have something other than shin splints? I have read about compartment syndrome, but I am not a runner. It is a throbbing pain, down the side of my calf...it almost feels like my lower leg is a tree trunk, my foot slaps the ground as I walk...any advice or thoughts.
thanks

Your shins are on the very front of your lower leg. If your pain is on the side of your calves you have some other problem.

I have very tight calves also. You might be best seeing a massage therapist to work on your legs. Especially with that tree trunk feeling you were talking about. Pay attention to what she/he does so you can do some yourself when you are needing it.

Your slapping the ground when you walk is a sign of a stride length that is very wrong for you, walk slowly across the floor and concentrate on landing on your heel and rolling up and pushing off with the ball of your foot. When that front foot hits on the heel, keep your knee straight till your knee passes under you then push off with the ball of your foot and toe bending your knee to bring it forward.

Another thing that can be contributing to the slapping is if your shoes are not flexable enough for you to roll heel to toe. Are your shoes stiff?

You will feel fast walking in your shins (front of the lower leg) till your shins are strong enough and also till they are warmed up propely.

Dave:)
 
This is a great thread. We (my parents and brother) just signed up for the 1/2 marathon in -08 and we are training now I have been working out for a year now but not in very good shape seeing how I love chocolate. So My question is I crank on the elliptical machine and today was my first jog on the tredmill and I went 40 mins and 30 of that was in a jog and NOT STOPPING to walk. I was very happy!! but tonight I have low back pain and had to ice it... did I do to much even thought I went slow?
I do have a belly to contend with Which I am trying to get ride of! Any information will be great.

Miranda
 
This is a great thread. We (my parents and brother) just signed up for the 1/2 marathon in -08 and we are training now I have been working out for a year now but not in very good shape seeing how I love chocolate. So My question is I crank on the elliptical machine and today was my first jog on the tredmill and I went 40 mins and 30 of that was in a jog and NOT STOPPING to walk. I was very happy!! but tonight I have low back pain and had to ice it... did I do to much even thought I went slow?
I do have a belly to contend with Which I am trying to get ride of! Any information will be great.

Miranda

Miranda dear, you have a pretty good idea of how to fix your concerns already. You just have to look in the mirrior and tell that woman you see that she is worth the effort and get started on molding the new you.

Yes the back pain could be caused by a need for stomach strengthening. My ab exercise works very well if you are not a fan of crunches.

Walking and running might be better for you right now. I highly recommend the book by John Bingham (penguin) "Marathoning for Mortals". It has lots of good training advice by his wife Jenny and some good training plans.

Good luck with your training lady.

Dave:)
 














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