Hey Campers I need a few suggestions!

I know I'm fixated on the whole toilet/bathroom thing, so can anyone tell me how the toilet facilities are when camping at national parks? Maybe this is a mother issue, they don't seem to concerned.
Toilet facilities at state / national parks lack in privacy but are generally clean and efficient. They'll have to walk from their tent site to the bathroom area, so a bucket for toiletries is practical. Occasionally toilet paper is lacking, so it's a good idea to always keep one roll in your own car. These facilities often have laundry facilities adjacent.

They definitely need the America the Beautiful Pass, which is expensive but grants free admission to national parks for one year. They should buy it at the very first national park they visit -- not ahead of time. Why? Because the 12-months starts ticking off when it's purchased, not from its first use.

Established campsites typically come with a picnic table, a laid-out tent spot, and a metal-ringed fire spot. So the table and chairs aren't a necessity. I like it when a campsite has a lantern hook so you can keep your lantern up high instead of placing it on the table.

Camping in national parks (and don't overlook state parks) isn't particularly cheap. We did a driving trip of the Western National Parks a couple years ago, and we started out with the idea of camping. However, by the time we were done, we discovered that we could do better in hotels. Why? Largely because we could find hotels for $35-50 on Priceline, and by bidding carefully we almost always got a free breakfast with that. Also, my husband had built up a large number of "points" for various hotels through business travel, and we cashed those all in. If we'd camped -- we're a family of four, so their details will differ -- we'd have needed to take our older, larger, less fuel-efficient car (how else could we carry a tent, four sleeping pads, four sleeping bags, a cooler, and our clothes?). Using hotels allowed us each to travel with one small bag. We didn't have to carry/launder our own linens, and that alone was a huge space savings. Don't forget that camping means buying firewood and/or propane for the stove . . . and ice for the cooler; add that to a $15-20 per night campsite fee, and you've reached the cost of a low-end hotel room . . . but you're not getting the free breakfast. Traveling without camping gear allowed us to use a 40 MPG car.

Of course, their details may vary. They may be looking for camping as the experience, not a vehicle for inexpensive travel. But be sure they've counted in all the little costs of camping.

And finally, how old are they? I'm surprised they aren't planning these details themselves.
 
I know I'm fixated on the whole toilet/bathroom thing, so can anyone tell me how the toilet facilities are when camping at national parks? Maybe this is a mother issue, they don't seem to concerned.

It depends on the NP and where you are in the NP. For instance, in Yellowstone some of the campgrounds have bathrooms that have stalls and sinks, just like at the mall. A few of the CGs even have laundery facilities and pay showers which are very clean, with nice, hot water. The more rustic, backcountry CGs have pit toilets.

I grew up doing primitive camping with my parents and 4 sibs. None of us died from using a pit toilet/outhouse. We used to stay for 14 days at a stretch. I don't know how my parents did it with no refridgeration, no running water, and no electricity, but they did. I have pictures of Mom hanging up cloth diapers on the line at camp. I don't even want to know where she washed them :scared1:
 
MrsPete thanks you for all the information. As far as the details of their trip, I have very little input into it. All I am doing is trying to get some ideas of things that I can buy for them as an early Christmas gift since they won't be here for Christmas. My daughter is not one to ask me to buy things for her, so if I have ideas of specific items that will be useful I can ask her if they have it, need it or want it. Otherwise, she won't say what they need or ask for things.

I offered to buy them a car roof storage unit, which they didn't want (the bikes will be on the roof). I told them I wanted to get them something for the trip, so she asked if I would contribute towards a new tent. The mom in me just wants to help them out in whatever way I can, which is mostly not asking too many questions:rolleyes1.

What I know now at this point is: They will camp in national and state parks, probably no KOA places, with an occasional hotel and friends and family stay thrown in. Where and how long they will stay at anyone place, I have no knowledge of. I guess they'll let me know when they have their plans more in place. They are bringing their bikes.

Minkydog, I spent many a day using an outhouse on family vacations as a kid:scared1:! We even have family stories that involve outhouses. This is probably why I'm am so fixated on the whole toilet situation :rotfl2:.
 



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