Help- I cannot lug my heavy camera to Disney!

AAmom

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Need some advice- I have a Sony alpha 100 digital camera base and 2 changeout lenses ( 28- 70 and a 28 - 300). I mostly use the 28-300 lens because I feel like it gives me the most options. I have used the camera on lots of trips before kids and several since we had kids. Its a great camera, I love the all the settings, and it has taken some great pics over the years. Here's the problem- I CANNOT LUG THAT CAMERA, HEAVY LENS, CHARGER, and CAMERA BAG, ALL OVER DISNEY!!!! We felt like it was a pain to lug around before kids...now it is just more than we want to deal with on our kids first trip to Disney ( age 4 and 2).

I keep seeing all these smaller digital cameras with built in telephoto lens in the store. They are running from a $150 to a $400 price point, so I am assuming at the higher price end you are getting a decent camera- and it sure as heck looks a lot easier to haul around than the one I have.

So here's where I need to pick your brain- what am I losing by switching to one of these cameras for my trip? Any of these cameras you would reccomend? I just got the I phone 5 as well, so I suppose worst case I would have it to use...but I am assuming one of these smaller digital cameras has to be better than a cell phone camera, especially at the higher price points.

Thanks for any advice!
 
I brought my Sony A100 on my first Disney trip with kids. It did get cumbersome at times.
More recently, I brought the Sony rx100, a very advanced compact. Really felt very freeing to not have a big camera bag.
As the a100 is 7 years old now, I actually lost very little with the rx100. It gets image quality just a step below current dSLRs -- and possibly slightly above the a100. Better low light performance than the a100. Far more features. Video capabilities. I mostly lost the ability to add a telephoto lens (the rx100 reaches to 100mm, which is enough for most of Disney). And I lose bokeh ability -- much harder to achieve blurred backgrounds.

Now that's THE premiere compact, versus a 7-year old dSLR. A current dSLR has far more advantages. And a cheaper compact has many more disadvantages.

In that $200-$400 range, there are plenty of super zoom cameras that promote 20-30x magnification. (It's far cheaper to make a cheap camera with massive zoom, than to make a top quality camera with limited zoom) But compared to the a100, you will lose image quality. You'll lose some low light ability. You'll get slower focus with more shutter lag. You're making quite a few trades for convenience. But many people find the trade offs worthwhile.
 
It's a bit more than your price range but I am in *love* with my Lumix GX1. It is compact but takes incredible photos. I usually carry a Nikon D200 but it's much too heavy to lug around. I wanted a quality camera that could handle smaller detachable lenses and was small and light. My slr has been collecting dust since I bought this camera!
 
I keep seeing all these smaller digital cameras with built in telephoto lens in the store. They are running from a $150 to a $400 price point, so I am assuming at the higher price end you are getting a decent camera- and it sure as heck looks a lot easier to haul around than the one I have.

So here's where I need to pick your brain- what am I losing by switching to one of these cameras for my trip? Any of these cameras you would reccomend? I just got the I phone 5 as well, so I suppose worst case I would have it to use...but I am assuming one of these smaller digital cameras has to be better than a cell phone camera, especially at the higher price points.

Don't necessarily assume a compact camera will be better than the iPhone camera - for most generic, outdoor, daytime snapshots, the high-end phone cameras can match a P&S camera - the only area where the P&S will clearly be better is when it comes to shooting things farther away, where the zoom lens becomes a big advantage.

As to what you are losing with the P&S superzoom cameras compared to a DSLR? A few things:
1. Focus won't be as fast, especially as light gets lower
2. Low light shooting capability - superzoom cameras have itty bitty sensors, usually 1/2.5", which are 12-15x smaller than your DSLR sensor, so they can't handle low light very well, getting extremely noisy and grainy, and worse, the noise reduction algorithms in the camera smear away all the details as the ISO goes up
3. Shallow depth of field control - if you like shooting with big apertures where you get that softer, blurred, out of focus background behind people in portraits and such, the tiny P&S camera sensors can't do that - the only option would be to use a lot of zoom and stand really far away
4. Lens interchangeability - that may not mean as much to you, but DSLRs advantage is that you can put on a different lens for specific needs, such as a fast prime lens for indoor shooting

There are plenty of other advantages of large sensors and DSLRs, but many of them likely won't really apply to your photography needs or your Disney shooting. Of course, Superzoom cameras have advantages too - namely a huge focal range in one compact, light body.

Other P&S cameras with larger sensors, like the RX100 mentioned by Havoc, will perform much better in more difficult situations like low light, but they don't have the kind of focal range you get with the superzooms - though it may be sufficient for something like a Disney trip...but if you were used to having a 300mm lens on your DSLR, you'll definitely be lacking in range a bit.

Mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras might be an option worth considering - the Olympus and Panasonic M4:3 cameras, or the Sony NEX cameras...they have larger sensors and can change lenses like a DSLR, but are much smaller and lighter, and pair with lighter and smaller lenses too. The M4:3 cameras use a sensor a little smaller than your camera, but bigger than almost all P&S cameras...the Sony NEX uses the exact same sensor size as your DSLR. This is a pricier option, but in the long run will give you a much more flexible platform that could effectively replace your DSLR while giving you many of the same advantages and cutting your weight and size of kit in half or more.

I shoot with both a Sony A580 DSLR, similar in size to your A100...and a Sony NEX-5N as a second body. To give you an idea of the size difference between a mirrorless body and a DSLR...I have a small waterproof camera bag I use when I want to travel light. In that bag, I can just squeeze my DSLR with my 18-250mm lens attached, if I reverse the lens hood on the end - I can barely close the zipper, and nothing else can get in there with it except maybe a spare battery. In that same bag, if I bring my NEX camera system instead, I can fit my NEX-5N body, the detachable electronic viewfinder, my 55-210mm lens, my 18-55mm kit lens, my Konica 40mm F1.8 fast lens, my 16mm pancake lens, my ECU1 wide angle adapter, two spare batteries, and my battery charger. And the bag zips closed comfortably!

That's a camera, 4 lenses, a lens adapter, extra batteries and a charger in the same space that barely squeezes my DSLR and one lens. And I still get a good focal range from ultrawide (18mm equivalent) to telephoto (315mm equivalent), with low light lens included (F1.8)...so I still have very good flexibility. All that fits in a camera bag that's about the size of a woman's larger clutch.
 

As always, zackie gave an excellent summary.

Just be aware, his summary of p&s is accurate but very generalized. There are better compact cameras, with bigger sensors. But they tend to have less zoom and are more expensive.

The Nex system -- and the 4/3rds systems are great options for top image quality in a down sized package. But to me-- they are great if you're looking for a whole new system to invest in. Buy new lenses, etc.
So if you're looking to change systems, or want a second system--they are great options.

If you're looking just for a second camera to go with at times you don't want to be weighted down, I personally prefer a high end compact.
 
On the other side, why take a big, heavy zoom lens into Disney? Many seem to take a zoom lens into Animal Kingdom, otherwise most prefer smaller wide angle lenses? Your current camera may be much more enjoyable with a smaller wide angle lens.
 
I am the OP and I just want to clarify that I am not limited to the $400 price point. I was merely using the price range I noticed at a typical big box store. I think I really just want a nice point and shoot camera that will give me most of the same ability as my current camera including a decent amount of zoom. Keeping in mind that with my exisitng camera I never played with the speed or aperature, just used the various standard settings. Thnks
 
You may want to venture on over to dpreview.com and check out some reviews. Tough to say exactly what you're looking for, image quality wise. Will you be blowing the pictures up? Are you a pixel-peeper who will hate the slightest hint of noise? How much zoom is enough for you?

I'm actually in a similar boat except I shoot exclusively in manual on my Canon 7D and am a bit of a pixel-peeper.

I'm currently torn between something like the Panasonic lx7 which I know will give better pictures and the Panasonic fz200 which has an amazing zoom AND is 2.8 across the zoom range. I'm currently leaning towards the fz200.
 


















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