DJJimmy9
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Hello All. I do not want this to come off as a whining post as I know this is totally a first-world problem. But this is a board related to vacation planning so I will assume most will understand my frustration.
We are booked on an ABD trip to Japan this August (note: this is our first trip using ABD). I was very excited to receive our Adventures Handbook via email a few days ago. However, upon opening the handbook, I quickly realized that a significant number of changes have been made to our itinerary. I understand that trip itineraries are subject to change for a number of reasons and that some things are totally out of the control of ABD. However, there are some changes that seem totally unnecessary and there are also significant removals without any comparable replacement. Below is a list of the changes...
Day 3 - Origami Crane Experience - REMOVED WITH NO REPLACEMENT
This almost seems like an oversight. Day 3 is still a trip to Hiroshima via the Shinkansen Train. All of the activities except for the Origami Crane Experience are still listed albeit in a different order. Per the handbook, we will now visit the Peace Park and Museum in the morning. Then we will have lunch on our own in Miyajima. After lunch, we will visit the Shinto Shrine and take a tour of the Buddhist Temple. Then we will have a Okonomiyaki style dinner. It seems like there is not a lot of activity between lunch and dinner. Why not keep the Origami Experience? And if removing it, how is it acceptable to not replace it with something comparable. My kids were looking forward to this experience. And it seemed like a fun activity to break-up the day of museums, temples, and shrines for the kids.
Day 4 - Hozugawa River Boat Ride - REPLACED with Kiyomizu-dera Temple
I totally understand that the river boat ride had to be removed from the itinerary given the recent tragic accident. My sincerest condolences to all of the people who were impacted by this tragic accident. From what it appears the Kiyomizu-dera Temple looks cool, but let's not pretend that seeing another temple is on par with a river boat ride - especially from a kid's perspective. But I totally understand that not much could be done about this one given the boat rides are not currently running. So adding a temple would be fine, if other kid oriented items like Origami and TeamLabs were not also removed from the itinerary.
Day 7 - Panoramic Tour of Central Tokyo & Shibuya Crossing - REMOVED WITH NO REPLACEMENT
This one makes absolutely no sense. I hope that this was just an accidental omission in the Adventures Handbook. Everything about Day 7 is totally the same right up until Dinner. The online brochure and Adventures Handbook both state that dinner on Day 7 will be at Gonpachi. The Adventures Handbook lists no activities after dinner. Even thought the restaurant is less than 10 minutes away from Shibuya Crossing, the Adventures Handbook no longer lists this as an activity. I really hope this one was just an oversight.
Day 8 - A complete overhaul of the itinerary PART ONE!!!
Day 8 was completely switched around which presents a major challenge for us. First, instead of starting the day at Tokyo Tower we are now starting the day at Tokyo SkyTree. This is a comparable swap, so no issue here. The biggest challenge is that Day 8 was supposed to be a totally free day as the original brochure lists "Lunch & Afternoon On Your Own in Tokyo" and "Dinner on Your Own in Tokyo". This did originally strike me as odd - having almost an entire day on our own. But because the original brochure listed Day 8 as as "on your own" day - guess what we did? We made reservations and plans ON OUR OWN. But wait, the Adventures Handbook now lists two new activities on the itinerary for Day 8...Senso-ji Temple and a Kintsugi Experience. While I appreciate ABD adding some activities since a few others from earlier in the trip were not replaced, the timing of the addition is maddening. We already filled the day that was supposed to be "on our own" with other ticketed activities. If ABD was going to make this significant of a change, why didn't they communicate this more than 50-days in advance. Many hard to get reservations in Japan open up 60-days in advance. ABD - you could have told me about this change like 2-weeks earlier and saved me a ton of frustration. I really do not know what we will do at this point. We likely may skip the Senso-ji Temple and a Kintsugi Experience and stick with our own activities. As a planner, I cannot tell you how frustrating this is. We have been planning this trip for almost 3-years and then 50-days before the trip, ABD just changes this.
Day 9 - A complete overhaul of the itinerary PART TWO!!! TEAM LAB BORDERLESS REMOVED!
Well to offset the changes made to Day 8, guess what - Day 9 is getting an overhaul too. The day starts the same with a visit to Happo-en Gardens and Tea House. But instead of visiting the Toyosu Fish Market we are now visiting the Tsukiji Outer Market. I have no opinion on this one. If ABD thinks one market is better than the other, then I am not going to question it. But the major change to Day 9 is that the visit to Team Lab Borderless has been removed from the itinerary without a replacement. After lunch on Day 9 is now listed in the Adventures Handbook as "On Your Own Time in Tokyo". Excuse me, what? ABD just moved the "on your own afternoon time" from Day 8 to Day 9. Thanks - but I already planned "on my own" stuff on Day 8. Now I have to try to move it to Day 9. I do not think anyone from ABD has ever tried to get a reservation at the Pokemon Cafe. And let's not gloss over that Team Lab Borderless was completely dropped from the itinerary. This was one item I was glad I did not have to reserve on my own because ABD was handling it. Not anymore. Because ABD was handling this one, I did not do any research on this. I have now learned that the Team Lab Borderless exhibit closed. So not much that ABD can do about this one. But I am not sure what ABD thinks they added to Day 8 that compares to Team Lab Borderless. And please don't say Senso-ji Temple. This is not an "adults only" Adventure. This is supposed to be a kid-focused itinerary. Stop replacing fun activities with temples!
A few questions...
1.) What do you think of all these changes?
2.) Do you think the swaps are reasonable / equitable?
3.) For those who are ABD Disney vets, is this normal?
Please, please, please, tell me that this is all OK and that ABD knows what they are doing and that our trip is still going to be amazing. As a detailed planner, I am struggling with all of these changes. And of course, I am focusing on what was removed vs. seeing the benefit of anything that was added. Words of encouragement are desperately needed!
Thanks for reading all of this (if you did)!
We are booked on an ABD trip to Japan this August (note: this is our first trip using ABD). I was very excited to receive our Adventures Handbook via email a few days ago. However, upon opening the handbook, I quickly realized that a significant number of changes have been made to our itinerary. I understand that trip itineraries are subject to change for a number of reasons and that some things are totally out of the control of ABD. However, there are some changes that seem totally unnecessary and there are also significant removals without any comparable replacement. Below is a list of the changes...
Day 3 - Origami Crane Experience - REMOVED WITH NO REPLACEMENT
This almost seems like an oversight. Day 3 is still a trip to Hiroshima via the Shinkansen Train. All of the activities except for the Origami Crane Experience are still listed albeit in a different order. Per the handbook, we will now visit the Peace Park and Museum in the morning. Then we will have lunch on our own in Miyajima. After lunch, we will visit the Shinto Shrine and take a tour of the Buddhist Temple. Then we will have a Okonomiyaki style dinner. It seems like there is not a lot of activity between lunch and dinner. Why not keep the Origami Experience? And if removing it, how is it acceptable to not replace it with something comparable. My kids were looking forward to this experience. And it seemed like a fun activity to break-up the day of museums, temples, and shrines for the kids.
Day 4 - Hozugawa River Boat Ride - REPLACED with Kiyomizu-dera Temple
I totally understand that the river boat ride had to be removed from the itinerary given the recent tragic accident. My sincerest condolences to all of the people who were impacted by this tragic accident. From what it appears the Kiyomizu-dera Temple looks cool, but let's not pretend that seeing another temple is on par with a river boat ride - especially from a kid's perspective. But I totally understand that not much could be done about this one given the boat rides are not currently running. So adding a temple would be fine, if other kid oriented items like Origami and TeamLabs were not also removed from the itinerary.
Day 7 - Panoramic Tour of Central Tokyo & Shibuya Crossing - REMOVED WITH NO REPLACEMENT
This one makes absolutely no sense. I hope that this was just an accidental omission in the Adventures Handbook. Everything about Day 7 is totally the same right up until Dinner. The online brochure and Adventures Handbook both state that dinner on Day 7 will be at Gonpachi. The Adventures Handbook lists no activities after dinner. Even thought the restaurant is less than 10 minutes away from Shibuya Crossing, the Adventures Handbook no longer lists this as an activity. I really hope this one was just an oversight.
Day 8 - A complete overhaul of the itinerary PART ONE!!!
Day 8 was completely switched around which presents a major challenge for us. First, instead of starting the day at Tokyo Tower we are now starting the day at Tokyo SkyTree. This is a comparable swap, so no issue here. The biggest challenge is that Day 8 was supposed to be a totally free day as the original brochure lists "Lunch & Afternoon On Your Own in Tokyo" and "Dinner on Your Own in Tokyo". This did originally strike me as odd - having almost an entire day on our own. But because the original brochure listed Day 8 as as "on your own" day - guess what we did? We made reservations and plans ON OUR OWN. But wait, the Adventures Handbook now lists two new activities on the itinerary for Day 8...Senso-ji Temple and a Kintsugi Experience. While I appreciate ABD adding some activities since a few others from earlier in the trip were not replaced, the timing of the addition is maddening. We already filled the day that was supposed to be "on our own" with other ticketed activities. If ABD was going to make this significant of a change, why didn't they communicate this more than 50-days in advance. Many hard to get reservations in Japan open up 60-days in advance. ABD - you could have told me about this change like 2-weeks earlier and saved me a ton of frustration. I really do not know what we will do at this point. We likely may skip the Senso-ji Temple and a Kintsugi Experience and stick with our own activities. As a planner, I cannot tell you how frustrating this is. We have been planning this trip for almost 3-years and then 50-days before the trip, ABD just changes this.
Day 9 - A complete overhaul of the itinerary PART TWO!!! TEAM LAB BORDERLESS REMOVED!
Well to offset the changes made to Day 8, guess what - Day 9 is getting an overhaul too. The day starts the same with a visit to Happo-en Gardens and Tea House. But instead of visiting the Toyosu Fish Market we are now visiting the Tsukiji Outer Market. I have no opinion on this one. If ABD thinks one market is better than the other, then I am not going to question it. But the major change to Day 9 is that the visit to Team Lab Borderless has been removed from the itinerary without a replacement. After lunch on Day 9 is now listed in the Adventures Handbook as "On Your Own Time in Tokyo". Excuse me, what? ABD just moved the "on your own afternoon time" from Day 8 to Day 9. Thanks - but I already planned "on my own" stuff on Day 8. Now I have to try to move it to Day 9. I do not think anyone from ABD has ever tried to get a reservation at the Pokemon Cafe. And let's not gloss over that Team Lab Borderless was completely dropped from the itinerary. This was one item I was glad I did not have to reserve on my own because ABD was handling it. Not anymore. Because ABD was handling this one, I did not do any research on this. I have now learned that the Team Lab Borderless exhibit closed. So not much that ABD can do about this one. But I am not sure what ABD thinks they added to Day 8 that compares to Team Lab Borderless. And please don't say Senso-ji Temple. This is not an "adults only" Adventure. This is supposed to be a kid-focused itinerary. Stop replacing fun activities with temples!
A few questions...
1.) What do you think of all these changes?
2.) Do you think the swaps are reasonable / equitable?
3.) For those who are ABD Disney vets, is this normal?
Please, please, please, tell me that this is all OK and that ABD knows what they are doing and that our trip is still going to be amazing. As a detailed planner, I am struggling with all of these changes. And of course, I am focusing on what was removed vs. seeing the benefit of anything that was added. Words of encouragement are desperately needed!
Thanks for reading all of this (if you did)!
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